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Angsty McGothsalot ([info]angstymcgoth) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-10-11 21:17:00


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Entry tags:anime/manga, flouncing, gaff, homophobia, thoughts on yaoi, yaoi

If nothing else, it's got staying power!
I give you the Great Trigun Wank '04, that's been going on for about three months now, with the same arguments ciculating ad nauseum. Yet somehow, it still hasn't gotten old. This is a long story, but I'd like to see it preserved for future generations. From the start.

[info]100bullets, the Trigun drabble comm, is a happy place where, through some fluke of the universe, yaoi (dominantly W/V) and het (dominantly V/M) fans manage to coexist without killing each other. Weekly challenges are issued wherein participants are assigned challenges suggested by other participants, and everybody has a good time. Until [info]lushdesolation shows up and makes it very clear that she doesn't like yaoi, citing religious reasons for her dislike.

The yaoi crowd is hacked, but amazingly, all hell does not break loose. Yet. Until she does it again. And again. And again.

Around this time, [info]millyfan starts getting all up in people's junk about being mean to [info]lushdesolation. Yes, this is important, trust me.

Changing tack, [info]lushdesolation writes her own yaoi drabble positively dripping with scorn. She also makes the staggeringly insightful comment that it's okay to be gay if you're evil, but not if you're one of the protagonists.

"I don't mind writing yaoi for villians - as for heroes who are not explicitly yaoi in canon, I don't want to make them yaoi. To me, making Vash and Wolfwood have hot mutual buttsex...would be "tainting" them - at least, tainting Vash, whom I see as an extremely moral character."

It doesn't much go over well, and she then posts an apology for acting like an ass. Said apology would be a whole lot easier to swallow, if she didn't lace it with pity-me comments about cutting herself.

Not long after [info]lushdesolation promises to shape up, she's at it again, in a drabble that's not even yaoi. People get pissed off, [info]millyfan freaks out and both are banned for a month for being rude and unseemly by community mod [info]jaina. Several posts later, taking advantage of anonymous posting, [info]lushdesolation gives people a piece of her mind before drifting off into the ether.

Fast forward to present. Fresh from her one-month ban, [info]lushdesolation makes her presence known, refrencing a thread she started on the Godawful Fanfiction boards detailing why [info]100bullets sucks. Regulars from [info]100bullets are attracted by the sound of spooge, and wank happens elsewhere. Sensing people talking about her, [info]lushdesolation shows up because bashing a comm in a different forum and then bragging about to the targets themselves is so not wank omg.

She then makes the obligatory "STFU I'm going home" post and gives the comm the finger. Showing what a true friend she is, [info]millyfan makes some hideous icons to commemorate the event.




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[info]banfennid
2004-10-12 07:31 am UTC (link)
It's... it's.. GUILT-FREE WANK!!!

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(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 07:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kajivar, 2004-10-12 06:26 pm UTC

[info]robinterrae
2004-10-12 07:48 am UTC (link)
Well, we all knew that Legato was getting it from Knives and that Midvalley didn't just toot his own horn.

Can I use this argument in the WK fandom? "Crawford is to gay, it's ok to be gay if you're evil! Some silly Trigun fangirl said so!"

One only has to look at the comm members. They are all about being goofs and so not being serious all the time yo.

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(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 07:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinterrae, 2004-10-12 08:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 08:14 am UTC

[info]crysiana
2004-10-12 07:49 am UTC (link)
This is lovely. Truly amusing, and truly wanky. I'm just...amazed that this was so amusing to read.

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(no subject) - [info]angstymcgoth, 2004-10-12 08:01 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-10-12 08:01 am UTC (link)
I don't like yaoi but you know, if you don't like something, don't read it and don't rant about it. But then, I forget, most fangirls haven't quite comprehended that concept. So I'll go and feast on the wank that is this mess.

bluewhiteapo on lj

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(no subject) - [info]angstymcgoth, 2004-10-12 08:02 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-12 10:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2004-10-12 09:34 pm UTC

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 01:06 pm UTC

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 03:59 pm UTC

[info]dawnswalker
2004-10-12 08:26 am UTC (link)
But, if all evil people are gay, how are baby evil people born?

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(no subject) - [info]danceswithelvis, 2004-10-12 09:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-10-12 06:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kaiser_chan, 2004-10-14 12:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]danceswithelvis, 2004-10-14 01:33 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-12 12:08 pm UTC
Where new evil people come from: - [info]windex_junkie, 2004-10-12 03:47 pm UTC
Re: Where new evil people come from: - [info]dawnswalker, 2004-10-12 04:27 pm UTC
Re: Where new evil people come from: - [info]eidolon_bird, 2004-10-12 04:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-13 05:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-10-14 02:14 am UTC

[info]oysteria
2004-10-12 08:29 am UTC (link)
Aww. After reading all the links, I kinda feel bad for lushdesolation. Unlike Jaina, I don't think she "never had any intention of co-existing peacefully"--she just obviously couldn't co-exist peacefully. She's a little too sensitive to yaoi-vibes, and they couldn't bring themselves to just shrug off her prickly jokes and jabs about it. No one person--even lushdesolation--is really a world-class wanker here. She's just someone who didn't know when to walk away from an untenable situation. Her repeated jabbering on about 100 bullets looks like genuinely hurt feelings to me. (And they weren't unduly harsh on her, but I saw some real hostility at the end--she didn't work herself into a banning all on her own.)

Which is not to say that she didn't wank royally. After all, what is wank, if not refusing to let it go already?

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(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 08:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oysteria, 2004-10-12 08:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 08:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-10-12 10:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankismyfandom, 2004-10-12 11:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]belafarinrod, 2004-10-12 11:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-10-12 04:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankismyfandom, 2004-10-12 11:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2004-10-12 05:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 05:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-12 10:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 01:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2004-10-13 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-13 03:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2004-10-13 02:16 am UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2004-10-12 08:34 am UTC (link)
Wow, yaoi wank and cutting wank at the same time! Two great tastes that go great together.

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[info]misachan
2004-10-12 08:41 am UTC (link)
It was the claim that Wolfwood wouldn't sleep with Vash for [i]religious[/i] reasons that got me. Surely this person must be watching some other series.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-12 08:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 06:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]queenofshadows, 2004-10-12 09:26 pm UTC

[info]char
2004-10-12 08:55 am UTC (link)
And here I'm all proud because it was my "angsty m-preg" challenge (totally meant to be tongue-in-cheek) that set her off in the first second third place. XD

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(no subject) - [info]char, 2004-10-12 08:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 06:18 pm UTC

[info]mucktron
2004-10-12 09:10 am UTC (link)
What part of "Love and Peace" do they not understand???

God. Makes me wish that I'd still been into Trigun when I started on LJ. Back in MY days we only got our trigun wank on the mailing lists! And we liked it!

Trigun fan since '00

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(no subject) - [info]angstymcgoth, 2004-10-12 09:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mucktron, 2004-10-12 09:56 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-10-12 09:19 am UTC (link)
Makes one wonder what are lushdesolation's thoughts on yaoi...

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(no subject) - [info]aloysius, 2004-10-12 03:37 pm UTC

[info]sepiamagpie
2004-10-12 09:34 am UTC (link)


this icon ownz.

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(no subject) - [info]mucktron, 2004-10-12 09:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2004-10-12 10:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 01:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2004-10-12 10:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 01:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]uiggu, 2004-10-12 03:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shun_mcdaddy, 2004-10-12 01:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]uiggu, 2004-10-12 03:29 pm UTC
OT
[info]aloysius
2004-10-12 12:02 pm UTC (link)
It was mentioned in passing and I was uncertain so I looked it up.

Bokushi = Protestant
Shinpu = Catholic

You get wiser every day, don't you. Wank is so useful.

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Re: OT - [info]ymfaery, 2004-10-12 12:30 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-12 05:40 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]ymfaery, 2004-10-12 09:18 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]aloysius, 2004-10-13 07:41 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]ymfaery, 2004-10-14 12:30 am UTC
Re: OT - (Anonymous), 2004-10-15 04:36 am UTC
Re: OT - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-16 11:00 pm UTC

[info]ymfaery
2004-10-12 12:31 pm UTC (link)
...

*SNERK*

It was too tempting, wasn't it? >D >D >D

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(no subject) - [info]angstymcgoth, 2004-10-12 05:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2004-10-12 09:45 pm UTC
A public service announcment
[info]shun_mcdaddy
2004-10-12 01:25 pm UTC (link)
Please don't bring religion up in a fanon yaoi/het community. Because,it's mating calls of the whiny,such as "homophobe" and "closed-mined bigot",since you acted like an ass.

The more you know

*Cue music*

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Re: A public service announcment - [info]angstymcgoth, 2004-10-12 06:13 pm UTC
Re: A public service announcment - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 06:17 pm UTC
Re: A public service announcment - [info]shun_mcdaddy, 2004-10-12 06:48 pm UTC

[info]rinoared
2004-10-12 02:09 pm UTC (link)
I smell persecution complex. I mean, how can anyone just bring up their eww-yaoi sentiments again and again and again in a yaoi-friendly community, unless they want to get bitched out?

The whining about the quality of drabbles is just precious. Hello, they're drabbles. No need to read them, no need to comment on them. Especially if all you have is "uh, well written but ewwyaoi!!!"

But the top marks go to the plea to ban off topic comments. Liek woah.

Quick lesson: lj community != mailing list. If the comments don't spam your inbox, whothefuck cares. And even then, turning off the comment notifier isn't rocket science.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 02:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rinoared, 2004-10-12 02:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2004-10-12 09:49 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2004-10-12 02:26 pm UTC (link)
I like your icon.

to be wanting to jump a fellow man's bones WITHOUT thinking of scripture that forbids it.
Instead of like, killing and destroying and carrying weapons of mass destruction, and shit?

yes, the Bible's actually a halfway decent ticket to literacy.
O.o The fuck? Did your parents ban Dick & Jane because they didn't approve of the shortening of little Richard's name or something?

Gee, I'm a real wank, aren't I?
You officially are now, sweetheart! Here, have a cookie.

I was always the "freak kid" that no one liked.
No, really?!

I need an icon for people like this that just says, "Shut up. Shut Up! SHUT UP!!"
Oh, and...

This would be a lot better criticism if ff.net had ever done anything but suck.
*worships, gives up firstborn, etc etc*

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 04:55 pm UTC

[info]uiggu
2004-10-12 03:28 pm UTC (link)
Yes! YES! Ohmigod! Trigun finally makes it into f_w! Truly, I never thought we'd make it here...

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 04:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]uiggu, 2004-10-12 04:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 04:12 pm UTC
::just got journalfen:: - [info]rashaka, 2004-10-13 04:39 am UTC
Re: ::just got journalfen:: - [info]uiggu, 2004-10-14 11:39 pm UTC

[info]sir_hellsing
2004-10-12 04:17 pm UTC (link)
You lost me after I saw an IxM comment in the first thread. I got side tracked by the drabble idea and then Sad and Tearoses appeared!

My attention span is short.

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(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-12 05:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2004-10-12 05:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-12 05:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2004-10-13 09:00 pm UTC
this amuses me
(Anonymous)
2004-10-12 04:50 pm UTC (link)
For example, she wrote a drabble on Legato being a cannibal, plans to write a full-length cannibalism-themed fic, and since reading about cannibalism REALLY squicks me, I don't read those fics of hers. Consensual Vash yaoi squicks her,

I think this is why Jesus said something about not throwing stones. I'm going out on a limb here and guessing most people would be more disgusted by cannibalism fic than gay fic.

How do you even wank in a drabble community? Is there a strict character limit to the wank?

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Re: this amuses me - [info]phosfate, 2004-10-12 05:04 pm UTC
Re: this amuses me - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-12 05:42 pm UTC
Re: this amuses me - [info]jaina, 2004-10-12 07:06 pm UTC
Re: this amuses me - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-12 07:24 pm UTC
Re: this amuses me - [info]karmakaze, 2004-10-12 08:37 pm UTC
Re: this amuses me - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2004-10-12 08:51 pm UTC
Re: this amuses me - [info]iscoffy, 2004-10-12 11:57 pm UTC

[info]shoiryu
2004-10-12 05:54 pm UTC (link)
My old fandom, I weep for thee.

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-10-12 05:59 pm UTC (link)
...Yeesh. That's all I can say. Yeesh.

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[info]coffee_mug
2004-10-12 06:21 pm UTC (link)
Lushdesolation has possibly the most annoying icon ever.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 06:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2004-10-12 06:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 07:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2004-10-12 07:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2004-10-12 08:02 pm UTC

[info]shinigami_co
2004-10-12 06:49 pm UTC (link)
...am I the only one that took Wolfwood being a "priest" for the nifty duds because of his master-person? Because, if he really was, he's the only one I can think of off the top of my head that would hide copious amounts of artillery in his crucifix.

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(no subject) - [info]isntitironic, 2004-10-12 06:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-12 06:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2004-10-12 09:49 pm UTC



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