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John Yik ([info]john_yik) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-10-22 19:40:00


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Hello! New guy here! Wank on GAFF at 17:00
Like the subject line says, I'm new. Don't hurt me.

This little wank comes courtesy of what started out as a discussion of Bibleficcers on GAFF.

While deliberating on the ficcable qualities of the Holy Book, the following conversation occurred:

archonix: There is truth in all things! Especially in the Bible! Noah's Ark was true, you know!

Alma Geddon:The Wizard of Oz is fiction, therefore the Bible is fiction too! Oh, and because I don't agree with you, I shall talk to you as if you were a child!

archonix:Well, it's true in some sense, and here's why I think so.

Later, after a short discussion with Charles RB,

archonix:*posts quote from the Gospel of John*

Alma Geddon:*posts "clever" and insulting counter-quote from Eddie Izzard*

By now, Alma Geddon is starting to piss people off.

Dragoness Eclectic:Your attitude is offensive. Here's why. And are you too busy putting down archonix to look at what she wrote?

Alma Geddon:Ooh! You sting! And you're wrong! Wrong! Hah! Because I say so and I Know A Lot! And I can talk to archonix any way I want just because! Shut up! And your god is stupid, too! And I shall pontificate on how stupid you are while proving you wrong!

archonix:It looks to me like you're doing a lot of the things you're accusing us of doing. And if I'm wrong I'll admit it. You're just being rude and offensive.

Abatha: (Trying to pour oil upon the waters) Can't we all just get along?

Alma Geddon:I don't have any agenda! Nope! Not that this has any thing to do with the previous discussion, but I don't have an agenda! And I've always been right and anything you say just proves me right! Nyah, nyah! OMGYOU FLAEMED ME!!11121ONE! U LUUSE!!!!!ONEELEVENTYONE!

And everything ends there.



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[info]backfromspace
2004-10-22 09:41 pm UTC (link)
That's some fucked up code, dude.

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(no subject) - [info]john_yik, 2004-10-22 09:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]backfromspace, 2004-10-22 09:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]john_yik, 2004-10-22 09:48 pm UTC

[info]pyratejenni
2004-10-22 10:05 pm UTC (link)
I think Alma won that one. Then again, "there is truth in everything" sentiments make me roll my eyes.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-23 04:42 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-10-22 10:06 pm UTC (link)
If one would have asked me back in '99 that folks eventually would be Power Whining™ against Bible slash at GodAwful, I'd have laughed and then given them my tequila and lime. Seriously.

Who'd have also thought that all the attempts to get GAFF TOS'sed from various services by the Voyager folks of fandom wars of days past, would have ended in their various fandom counterparts making it a mockery from the inside.

*weeps*

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-23 03:43 am UTC

[info]marlo
2004-10-22 10:06 pm UTC (link)
It would be nice to be the SUPREME OVERLORD OF THE INTERWEB. I could sit at my computer and every time a stoopid rehashed fucking pointless boring debate between morons like this popped up, I could just press "DELETE," and PRESTO! BAHLEETED!!!

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(no subject) - [info]lillyv, 2004-10-23 02:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2004-10-23 02:22 am UTC

[info]loonylupinlover
2004-10-22 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Ahhh... I was wondering when this would show up. Huzzah!

Yeah... there's definitely a difference in believing that the Bible is fictional, and in saying "OMG U SUX0RZ U XTIAN EEDIOT!11!1!1!" (especially when the original topic was on fanfic and not on the validity of the Bible)....

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It just goes on and on and on!
[info]misachan
2004-10-22 10:48 pm UTC (link)
My eyes finally glazed over when they started debating the various ethnic tribes in Exodus. This has what to do with fanfic, now?

Look, people, strangers posting fanfic on the internet is not going to make your Bibles spontaneously combust. You won't wake up tomorrow and realize that's the Necromonicon on your shelf. Really. God is stronger than bad slash.

Although, and I say this as a church-going Catholic, if you don't see the slash in 2 Samuel, you just aren't looking hard enough.

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Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]vengeance_bean, 2004-10-23 01:00 am UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]blackjackrocket, 2004-10-23 01:43 am UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]kinneas, 2004-10-23 03:55 am UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]kraken_sleeps, 2004-10-23 01:22 pm UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 01:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylisse, 2004-10-23 04:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]melusine, 2004-10-24 08:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2004-10-24 09:06 pm UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]nevadafighter, 2004-10-23 11:07 am UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]combledore, 2004-10-23 05:37 am UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - (Anonymous), 2004-10-24 05:41 am UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]april_hurst, 2004-10-24 06:38 am UTC
Re: It just goes on and on and on! - [info]necronomist, 2004-10-25 02:06 am UTC

[info]annabelle_lee
2004-10-22 10:56 pm UTC (link)
[inhales] Mmm, it's the stench of pretentious wanker in the afternoon. Good old GAFF, what would we do without you?

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[info]selene_avis
2004-10-22 11:17 pm UTC (link)
I think archonix wins the round. It only took Alma Geddon one post for me to start cringing.

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[info]iris
2004-10-23 12:03 am UTC (link)
Alma Geddon strikes me as the kind of pretentious asshole atheist that makes the rest of us look bad.

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(no subject) - [info]amakath, 2004-10-23 01:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2004-10-23 03:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amakath, 2004-10-23 04:33 am UTC

[info]fuzzytowers
2004-10-23 12:16 am UTC (link)
They should just love everyone. What ever happened to that nice Jesus Slash community?

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(no subject) - [info]visp, 2004-10-24 12:22 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-10-23 12:23 am UTC (link)
I think Alma's my new hero o.o

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[info]kinneas
2004-10-23 12:49 am UTC (link)
Huh.

As far as the religious debate wanking goes, Alma wins on the basis of presented, persuading fact and rebuttal analysis+implementation. Too bad she's a patronizing little bitch about it. She really could have had them eating out of her hand, too.

As far as the third wanker goes... so did I just totally miss the point of the Mesopotamian Indus River Valley people like DYING all over the damn place from their "little annual spring floods"?

Anyone more enlightened than myself, do feel free to join in.

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(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2004-10-23 01:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 01:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2004-10-23 02:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2004-10-23 02:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 02:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2004-10-23 02:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 02:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]schneck, 2004-10-23 06:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2004-10-24 12:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2004-10-23 07:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 07:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2004-10-23 08:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 08:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2004-10-23 08:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 08:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2004-10-23 09:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 09:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2004-10-23 09:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-23 09:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2004-10-24 12:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-24 12:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2004-10-24 09:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2004-10-24 10:28 pm UTC

[info]crysiana
2004-10-23 02:38 am UTC (link)
I would have given Alma a win (except on a few historical points, as were brought up), but her later behavior completely rips up her credibility.

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[info]adora_spintriae
2004-10-23 03:11 am UTC (link)
However, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wanted to strangle whoever wrote that Satan/Michael the Archangel slash. If the Bible is true it's bastardization of actual events, and if it's not it's canon rape...

I am so ingrained in fandom that I am now going to think of Fundamentalist manipulation of Bible passages as "Canon rape".

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(no subject) - [info]rhi_silverflame, 2004-10-23 06:06 pm UTC

[info]vadalia
2004-10-23 03:36 am UTC (link)
Wow... a Bible wank without it being started from Bibleslash (though I'm sure it's stuck in there somewhere)

... Almost got my fandom in there... Almost... *goes to write more Bibleslash*

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-23 03:58 am UTC (link)
Alma would've won if she hadn't been so stuck up her own condescending arse. Plus, none of her links really stated any evidence, just personal research and opinions. It would've been more interesting if she'd actually linked to some historical evidence to back up her arguements.
I think DE and Achronix won and the simple the fact that they can see past their own ego to other opinions.

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[info]pokecheck
2004-10-23 04:02 am UTC (link)
No, no! Thou shalt not quote the Gospel of Izzard whilst behaving the self-righteous thickie!

Smite thee. Smite thee hard.

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[info]boadicea
2004-10-23 06:55 am UTC (link)
This wank was to long for me to follow, what with my short attention span.

Having failed to be hooked by that, I'm more amused by the first line in which newbie obligatorily states that we should please not hurt him/her/it because it's FW virgin.

Gang rape, I say!

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-23 06:55 am UTC (link)
The archangel slash just made my brain hurt. The Jesus/Pilate was a bit weird too.

But, people, the book is Revelation. I don't think you're supposed to put an 's' on the end.

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(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2004-10-23 08:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-24 08:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2004-10-24 08:34 pm UTC

[info]wankismyfandom
2004-10-23 09:48 am UTC (link)
So, wait, they're having an intellectual pissing contest, but Dragoness Eclectic refers to Homer's epic as the Illiad?

I shall go and weep now.

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[info]nevadafighter
2004-10-23 12:00 pm UTC (link)
Satan/Sin/Death OT3!

*geek hat*

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-23 05:26 pm UTC (link)
Slow wank month, I guess... *eyeroll*

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d'oh!
[info]rossywar
2004-10-23 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Alma Geddon! Now I get it!

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wtf f_w
(Anonymous)
2004-10-23 07:33 pm UTC (link)
So everyone's all "Poo poo" on Alma because she's an asshole. Even if her arguments are better. Okay!

Go Alma. 8D Substance over tragic personality flaws.

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Re: wtf f_w - (Anonymous), 2004-10-23 07:34 pm UTC
Re: wtf f_w - [info]panthea, 2004-10-23 10:46 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-10-23 07:49 pm UTC (link)
*waves a cute li'l anon wave*

Hi, folks! I've noticed GAFF showing up here multiple times lately. It's . . . interesting. It sort of makes me want to crawl into a corner and deny my involvement with the board, but more often it cracks me up and makes me want to join in the snark. :)

This thread is an interesting one. Alma would have won the "debate" if she hadn't been so patronising and bitchy about the whole thing. She had her facts mostly in order, and of course I'm biased because I tend to agree with her beliefs (or lack thereof) on the matter. Unfortunate she had to get so wanky about the whole thing-- I quite like her, normally.

Dragoness Eclectic had a good point about Alma insulting rather than reading and replying, but the trouble is, she followed that up by doing much the same thing.

And why people cannot seem to state that their opinion is different from another's without saying "YOU ARE WRONG AND BEING AN OVERALL IDIOT, SHUT UP NOW" evades me. Then again, we GAFFers are generally not known for our tact.

Nothing to be done, I suppose.

Hm. I like it here. *joins the masses of lurkers*

~Anna

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