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Sister Wank - Like the Bride of Jesus In A Way ([info]sister_wank) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-10-23 19:53:00
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Current mood:Caffeinated

Spooge in pretty pastels
A Harry/Draco watercolor (not work friendly) is posted in [info]hpartremix and everything is ducky until [info]thebawmdotcawm asks the eternal question ...

Why do people with such talent waste it on such shit?


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[info]seppuku
2004-10-24 03:14 am UTC (link)
Yes, my epenis grows with each reply.

... Epenis. Huh.

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[info]greenglass
2004-10-24 03:18 am UTC (link)
Internet penis?

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[info]sepiamagpie
2004-10-24 03:17 am UTC (link)
a wanker they are, but their icon is cute.

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[info]khym_chanur
2004-10-24 03:33 am UTC (link)
[info]thebawmdotcawm has a real-life Nekokoneko icon! Squee!!

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[info]redjackcash
2004-10-24 03:41 am UTC (link)

The sad thing is that I can understand the wanker. Glockgal does have talent, but no one ever critiques her, instead it's all "OMG YOU ARE THE GREATEST!"...and I feel sometimes she needs a critique, because after a quick glance of her LJ it seems she plans on going into art, and you cannot go into art without learning to tear your own work apart. But since she's only in a fan community...it's incredibly wanky.

Honestly? It's not the what so much as the where. The wanker seems, like me, inclined to critique art. It sorta happens when you're trained to do it...sad but true. However, it's fandom. I can understand annoyance at the "OMG I CANNOT DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE! U R SO GREAT!" reactions...but it's all in good fun. Who really gives a fuck?

Glockgal will learn soon enough what's wrong with her art from her first illustration teacher. No one made thebawmdotcom the art police.

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wolfie_thu
2004-10-24 03:48 am UTC (link)
Yeah, critique is good (and I do think there are things in the painting that could do with fixing); the problem is, that's not what thebawmdotcawm offered, at least, not in their original comment. Saying something is "shit" isn't very helpful.

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[info]telophase
2004-10-24 06:59 am UTC (link)
I've hit the point in my art on DA where I get a lot of the "OMG KAWAIIIII!!" responses, but I posted in my journal there a while ago promising I'd never leave DA in a huff because I was getting tons of "OOO KAWAII!!" and hardly any good crit. As someone who /does/ try to give good crit, I know (a) how hard it is and (b)that it takes training and education to be able to do it. Most of my DA audience is pretty young and amateur: they're not going to be capable of giving me the crit I need. And God forbid I get angry because people like my work.

... None of that was really a response to you. It was mostly so I could post something slightly more substantial than ICON! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! which is what this comment is really about.

And now you can arrest me for gratuitous abuse of italics.

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[info]windex_junkie
2004-10-24 08:39 am UTC (link)
Glockgal will learn soon enough what's wrong with her art from her first illustration teacher. No one made thebawmdotcom the art police.

Well, what she seems to be doing wrong is drawing people that *gasp* look like people. That was the beef most of my profs had with me. OTOH, you said illustration teacher and we had no illustration program, just a bunch of people who could not say 'Fine Arts' without the caps.

They were quite fond of using 'illustrative' as a vaguely scatological pejorative.

/end violently bitter spooge.

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-24 09:02 pm UTC (link)
Glockgal will learn soon enough what's wrong with her art from her first illustration teacher.

Mmmmm. Pomposity.

You should totally offer her your critique! After all, she seems to be suffering without it! And you seem so well-versed in Teh Art World!

Nice icon by the way.

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(no subject) - meshou, 2004-10-25 06:22 am UTC

[info]stubbleglitter
2004-10-25 05:27 pm UTC (link)
Actually, the wanker seems more inclined to stir up shit than critique art, as he outlines in his master plan "I Like to Troll, but I Don't Like it When People Talk to Me!!"

For the record, Glock loves critique. Gives a lot of it herself. Ever since her first illustration teacher some eight years ago, buckaroo. *g*

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[info]uniquesnowflake
2004-10-26 01:36 am UTC (link)
There is a difference between somebody who points out assumed flaws and a person who offers correct and important advice.

There is a difference between a person who proofreads and a person who edits.

Much the same, there is a difference between criticizing and giving a critique. Not everybody is a good ArtCrit, just because they they can point out flaws.

It would be harmless to point out that you think Draco's shoulder looks awkward. But calling it shit or numerous other things? Ridiculous! As an art student, the assumption that she "needs" more crit, or something along those lines, baffles me.

If a poster truly wanted to be a good ArtCrit, it's better to format it and be a GOOD ArtCrit. Your crit must have a reference.

1) Begin your critique by summarizing what you know about the artist’s background and biography to help better understand the artist's motives.

2) Choose one or more of the artist’s works to critique. Identify the title, the medium/ art material used, and what year the work was created in for referential purposes.

3) In your critique you should at some point describe the work, analyze the elements and principles within the work, interpret the work, describe its purpose, and evaluate the work using aesthetic principles.

4) Once you have analyzed the work using aesthetic principles, you should point out the individual flaws and offer proper ways to correct them, if you know of them.

Those who can't critique really just complain.

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[info]ereshkigal
2004-10-24 04:01 am UTC (link)
*totally ignores the wank and instead squees over [info]thebawmdotcawm's kitteh icon*

*squee*

*coughs* Now then, what were we talking about again?

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[info]adora_spintriae
2004-10-24 04:10 am UTC (link)
Heh, troll says...
...its shit because its a boring composition and the blood feels tacked on and dumb.

Then troll says...
As a final comment to end this saga or trolling/flaming/and general ass-hattery, I would like to state for the record that this is a very good piece of art.

Ó.o Uh huh. Righteo then.

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[info]phosfate
2004-10-24 04:36 am UTC (link)
She should use her talent for real art. Like barns. Or clowns.

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[info]rogue
2004-10-24 04:44 am UTC (link)
You are a cow on crack cocaine.

That made me giggle.

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[info]tinybubbles
2004-10-24 06:43 am UTC (link)
Okay. I know he's a troll and a wanker and glockgal is probably a perfectly nice person who didn't deserve this but...

Oh no, you have caught me, I was vigorously masturbating to quiz results and colorbars.

*sporfle!!*

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[info]nights_mistress
2004-10-24 07:58 am UTC (link)
Was I the only one who thought "So and so's so nice, they don't deserve this?" to be somewhat lame? Who cares what they're like? I thought we were looking at their artwork, not assessing their personality.

Personally I thought the art was interesting. I'm not an art critic. I've had absolutely no training in the art world and as such, my opinion's probably not worth a lot. I felt that it was a decent job, but there were areas that didn't quite look right. But, hey, I have no talent at all in the area.

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-10-24 08:03 am UTC (link)
*represses a growl, attempts to comment in an unbiased way*

... *fails miserably* TALENT ISN'T ABOUT BEING PERFECT, IT'S ABOUT BEING GOOD AT SOMETHING YOU LOVE! WHO CARES IF SOMEONE WOULD RATHER USE THEIR TALENT FOR SLASH FANART THAN BOWLS OF FRUIT AND FLOWER TREES AND JESUS STATUES?!?!

*pants, calms down*

Okay, bitchrant over.

thebawmdotcawm is entitled to her opinions, but...really, if she doesn't like seeing art talent "wasted" on HP slash...why even look at the community? :P

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[info]watermelon
2004-10-24 09:37 am UTC (link)
At first I thought the guy meant that glockgal was wasting her talent on HP because HP is shit, and not that her art was shit.

But then I saw the other comments.

I have to second this though:

Oh no, you have caught me, I was vigorously masturbating to quiz results and colorbars.

Ha ha! :D

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[info]jar
2004-10-24 10:12 am UTC (link)
I bitched about this in my LJ a couple of days ago.

'Wasting talent on shit'. Took all I had to restrain myself from saying something along the lines or 'you complete tool'.

Oh, wait. I would have. The replies were frozen.

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[info]toxictattoo
2004-10-24 05:48 pm UTC (link)
thebawmdotcawm did admit to being a fuckwad because he/she/it wanted to be and that it really had little to do with the post in question.

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[info]mastervex
2004-10-24 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Whatever talent a person has is theirs to do whatever the hell they want with. Simple as that.

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[info]loki
2004-10-24 08:55 pm UTC (link)
*checks out your own journal*

Damn. Those who can't do, criticize.

*smile*

*HATES*

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[info]disturbedenuff
2004-10-24 08:56 pm UTC (link)
Oh Dear Lord.
I hate getting all serious, but as an art teacher, these people need to get a grip. Every artist starts somewhere, and if they give in to bullshit, ignorant putdowns about what they should or should not be doing, they often times give up and say 'to hell with it' and the world loses yet another rare creative mind. Its bad enough our schools are dropping arts programs like its going out of style.
Yes, artists must learn to critique their work and have it critiqued, but honestly, this was done for enjoyment, not a freaking lesson.
As a professional, watercolorist taboot, I think it's wonderful. I've had college bound students not demonstrate as good a control of the medium as this.
*rolls eyes*

Come here wankers... a little closer.... *WHAM!*

Now I feel better. *grins*

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[info]marylake
2004-10-24 11:51 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I suppose I'm trying hard to sound all intilectual-like, its kind of fun. I do this sort of thing every once and a while, start of "fight" on a livejournal or xanga or whatever, and when I either begin to lose or become bored, retreat back into the anonymity of the internet.

Oh, now I'm imagining karma bitchslapping trolls who think they can get away with anything on the internet.

Think of it: two people go out on a date. They fall in love. One night, they are discussing old hobbies. With a certain degree of sheepishness, he admits he used to love Livejournal. She says she did, too, and asks for his old journal name.

"Oh... HPSlashSucks666," he says, chuckling.

She stiffens. "You're HPSlashSucks666? The one who frequently trolled the RemusxSirius community?"

"Uh... yeah," he replies cautiously.

Her eyes flash. "I was the mod."

They break up the next day.

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(no subject) - [info]xturtle, 2004-10-25 03:17 am UTC
True Confessions: I Married A Troll - [info]elkins, 2004-10-25 10:47 am UTC
Re: True Confessions: I Married A Troll - [info]eljuno, 2004-10-26 03:15 am UTC
Re: True Confessions: I Married A Troll - [info]elkins, 2004-10-26 03:28 am UTC

  
   
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