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Maria ([info]ladyofviolets) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-10-27 06:48:00


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Current mood:Dramatic
Current music:None, it's too early...
Entry tags:anime/manga, gay, text interrogation: ur doin it wrong, troll

Baby Christian Anime wank
In the CAA, the following Trigun review is given by the ever wanky [info]millyfan:


The inherent homosexuality of Trigun

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Of course, I bet some of you are probably laughing at this, but I'm laughing at you. So there.

From the "almost" incestuously possessive (and who knows what is implied offscreen) "love/hate" relationship of Knives and Vash to the mangaverse past pairing of Midvalley and Wolfwood (changed in the anime to Midvalley and Legato not leaving each other's sight) to the deep, loving, yet angsty and tragic relationship of Wolfwood and Vash. . .

Oh, and let's not forget Elendira the Crimsonnail, a quite beautiful and deadly transvestite in the manga.

I've looked all around here, and none of you seem to be able to appreciate some of the finest "non-yaoi" yaoi around as such.



In case the post in CAA is deleted (and it was), [info]millyfan cross-posts it at [info]snarky_yaoi.

And a baby troll responds to the "WANK ME!" call. And people pet it. And the wank flows...

Barely starting, but just BOUND to grow. It's yaoi wank, WHAT else will happen?

EDIT: And it HAS. Read what [info]millyfan has to say about the troll itself. What. The. Shit. Indeed. And. At. This. Rate. I. Don't. Know. If. I. Should. Believe. It. Or. Not.

EDIT 2: More from the Troll here:
http://www.animeangels.net/forum2/viewtopic.php?p=11983#11983
http://www.animeangels.net/forum2/viewtopic.php?p=10011#10011

Edit 3: And Millyfan doesn't give up!. Bleeeh. Aren't you ever DONE with it, cutie? *poke poke poke*



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[info]adora_spintriae
2004-10-27 03:16 pm UTC (link)
Sweet fuck. I waited 7 minutes and the CAA site still didn't load. Does Jesus lag their servers or something?

And I cannot wait till Cthulhu rises to feed on our souls.

And I can't wait to see Cthulhu and Jesus go up against each other at Judgement day for our souls. Now THERE'S a deathmatch worth sinning for.

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-27 03:35 pm UTC (link)
*giggles*

Ah, I love the debate on whether or not homosexuality is a sin and whatnot.

Does bisexuality count? *leaps away from the flames of hell*

*sporfle*

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-27 03:38 pm UTC (link)
Bisexuality doesn't count because it's only half wrong.

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[info]mistressrenet
2004-10-27 03:47 pm UTC (link)
You really should check out the whole site, it's a trip and a half. The highlight for me was the Hellsing review where the reviewer said you might have to step back and pray hard at some points.

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[info]senor_pinata
2004-10-27 05:05 pm UTC (link)
I think Jesus and the Apostles need to join up to form one giant mecha.

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2004-10-27 05:57 pm UTC
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*splutter* - [info]mael, 2004-10-28 03:21 am UTC
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Jesus owes me $10 - [info]vinylgrrl, 2004-10-29 02:22 am UTC
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redwarrior
2004-10-27 11:21 pm UTC (link)
Actually, I would like to see that in either 1.) Celebrity Deathmatch [if it ever gets back on the air] or 2.) an episode of South Park.

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[info]doranobaka
2004-10-30 07:32 am UTC (link)
Christian anime review sites make baby Jesus cry.

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[info]redjackcash
2004-10-27 05:46 pm UTC (link)
So they're saying there's definite yaoi in a series created by a guy who had no idea there was the possibility of slashing his characters? Floatin' around somewhere on-line is a video of Yashuiro Nightow reactin' vehemently at a convention when a fans brought up the concept of yaoi doujinshi with his characters in it. He gave sort of a shocked, "People do that?! I...it never even occurred to me!" reaction. Somehow I have trouble believin' the inherent "yaoi-ness" of it after that.

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[info]senor_pinata
2004-10-27 06:05 pm UTC (link)
IMHO, it's one of those cases where it just depends how you interpret things. I lean to the het side of the force for this fandom, but I don't think my yaoi friends are insane or anything. So while I'd say that while Millyfan is not wrong in saying that cases can certainly be made for these pairings, I wouldn't call it "inherent", cuz to me inherently yaoi means that the creators kinda wanted it to be that way.

But then, if everyone tried to do things exactly the way the creators wanted, fanfiction wouldn't be so fun, so I'm gonna sit back with the dirty, dirty doujinshi that arrived in the mail yesterday while the wank grows.

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[info]mistressrenet
2004-10-27 06:22 pm UTC (link)
I think he's being a little disingenous about that; one glance at the doujin scene in Japan shows that no series or pairing is safe, after all. In the interviews I've read he's been pretty cool about all the shipping/fanfiction/goofiness-- more of a 'flattered and baffled' vibe than anything else.

There's pretty much no romantic shippiness in Trigun-the-manga at all, anyway. (Which is why I write fanfiction, heh.)

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[info]marumae
2004-10-27 05:57 pm UTC (link)
Of course, I bet some of you are probably laughing at this, but I'm laughing at you. So there.

Actually I'm laughing in glee because I had NO IDEA such "inherently homosexual" themes existed on Trigun, it actually make sme want to go out and watch/read all of it...I'm not sure that was his intention...

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-10-27 07:46 pm UTC (link)
Read Romans 1 sometime. If that's not stark proof that homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible, I don't know what is. ^_^ So sorry to say, but the Christians that believe homosexuality isn't a sin are painfully wrong.

Um, no, rape and sexual promiscuity are sins according to the bible no matter what the gender. :P

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[info]ladyofviolets
2004-10-27 09:29 pm UTC (link)
Remember, they're using the Bible as their Word of Proof. That's shooting yourself in the foot, since several rules from it either are ignored by God him/her/itself, or are downright ridiculous. Lot's daughters who practically raped their own dad to make sure they'd have children, anyone? Were they even punished? Or not mixing determinate types of fabrics? Or not eating several kind of animals?

My Ky Kiske (a Guilty Gear character who is a faithful and active Christian in the storyline) icon says: "Right. Hypocrites, STOP giving us REAL Christians a bad rep, please".

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redwarrior
2004-10-27 11:34 pm UTC (link)
He must not be reading the same translation as the rest of us! ^___^

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(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2004-10-30 01:08 pm UTC

redwarrior
2004-10-27 11:33 pm UTC (link)
Varied Commentary:

1.) The OP is stupid because, try as you might, there is no canon yaoi in Trigun, and besides, you DON'T try to change people by running around and screaming they're wrong. Knowing human nature, that will make them even more vehemently clingy to their beliefs, not to mention pissed off.

2.) The troll is stupid because two wrongs never make a right even if God IS whispering in your ear to smite your enemies, and people who preach 'love the sinner and hate the sin' will begin to hate the sinner as well within a matter of weeks. (I've seen it, it's not pretty.)

3.) If this were Yû Yû Hakusho, the OP would have a point. Sensui and Itsuki are a couple, and Togashi has openly stated that male homosexuality and MtF transvestism and transsexualism interest him. However, it's Trigun, and millyfan has no grounding in canon. Besides, I wanted Vash to get with Meryl...I SWORE she was the reincarnation of Rem!

And finally, a Bible quote modified for the needs of F_W:

"Troll not, lest ye be trolled." (Was that wanky? I apologize if it was.)

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redwarrior
2004-10-27 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Oh, and #4: I never really saw the need for a Christian anime society, since Japan is Buddhist and Shintô anyhoo...

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[info]shun_mcdaddy
2004-10-27 11:54 pm UTC (link)
2.) The troll is stupid because two wrongs never make a right even if God IS whispering in your ear to smite your enemies, and people who preach 'love the sinner and hate the sin' will begin to hate the sinner as well within a matter of weeks. (I've seen it, it's not pretty.)

Not really,my family for instance,I was taught that growing up.

They would just stay away for the person instead.(Had a gay neighbor across the street once)

My parents don't hate anyone....matter of fact,my mom doesn't want me to say "I hate ___" anybody or anything(as in a pet).

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[info]senor_pinata
2004-10-28 01:59 am UTC (link)
Can I have your babies please? Yay! Though as much as I too like the Vash/Meryl boffage, I'm gonna have to break out my essaylet on why Meryl has things in common with Rem but is not her reincarnation...shit, I haven't written it yet. I don't quite buy it, in any case--plus it'd make the pairing kinda squicky. She's his mom!

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-30 11:52 pm UTC

[info]cadesama
2004-10-28 02:05 am UTC (link)
Wankers all, yes I am strangely fascinated by Cephas in that first animeangels
link.

I am all for gay rights inasmuch as gays shouldn't be denied employment and
be treated as people


Mr. Freud, your slip is showing.

I'm sure that some day along the lines (or rather, down the oil-slicked
slope into the bowels of hell) property laws and all that prenuptual nonsense
will apply


Hello to the imagery!

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[info]zarla
2004-10-28 06:38 am UTC (link)
Your icon made me smile so.
::air guitar::

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(no subject) - [info]cadesama, 2004-10-28 10:56 pm UTC

[info]virago
2004-10-28 02:41 am UTC (link)
Because I actually believe that the Bible is true and that Jesus did indeed die in my place for my sins and rise again. ^_^

I find that smiley disturbing. Why? I don't know.

I think going over there was trolling ("poking" in this context = trolling), but eh. I don't know. I'm going back to the subthread about orgies, dammit!

PS. Romans? Paul was a wanker. kthx.

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[info]senor_pinata
2004-10-28 02:58 am UTC (link)
I think it's disturbing because, as Cadence mentioned to me, it brings the connotation of "Yay! Crucifixion!" Heh.

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[info]back_button
2004-10-28 08:04 am UTC (link)
Your icon makes the pet peever in me happy.

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(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-10-28 08:13 am UTC

[info]dawnswalker
2004-10-28 06:05 am UTC (link)
At a glance, I don't really see what's all that Christian about CAA anyway.

Don't get me wrong, they pay enough lip service to reviewing anime with the Christian perspective or whatever, but their only clear criteria for "bad touch series" and "good touch series" seems to be the presence of canon homosexuality (notice the distinct lack of shonen-ai shows and most CLAMP). And even that is inconsistent. "Azumanga Daioh" was given a 3 for 'Sexual Content', and that show has a lesbian (or at least bi-curious) main character, not to mention a running joke where a male teacher makes openly creepy passes at his underage students.

Not to mention that one reviewer pans "X TV" for being "too occultic", yet the rating in the same review for 'Bad Religion' is 0. WTF?

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[info]restlesshands
2004-10-30 12:08 am UTC (link)
I'm reading the review for the Ah! Megami-sama! Movie and....wow. The reviewer is a very sheltered child.

"At one point, Urd (Belldandy's sister) has to force Belldandy to drink. Urd does this by putting the liquid in her own mouth and then gives it to Belldandy mouth-to-mouth. A screenshot of this scene, or someone walking in on the movie at that part could very, very easily mistake it for two girls kissing."

No, no - it's two girls kissing. Sorry, move along. Ah! Megami-sama (manga version especially) is SO all about the lesbian fan service. Yes, it's a cute, sweet series with lots of touching moments. It still has lesbian fanservice.

The reviewer also fails to note in the nudity details that there's a scene in the movie where naked!Belldandy embraced her naked!wounded!Inner Child. Granted, the scene isn't sexual, but they're deffinitely both nekkid.

And...yeah...the review of X boggles my mind. THE APOCOLYPSE is not Christian? And Kamui being, essentially, JESUS is not Christian? I mean, I know it's the most bastardized interpritation of the Bible and such ever, but X is...um...definitely Christian-based.

Man, I wanna see what they have to say about Angel Sanctuary! Incest, bad angels, good demons, transvestites, homosexual undertones, and at the end of the OVA the characters tell off God! Woo!

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-11-26 05:01 am UTC

 
   
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