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Porn Purveyor ([info]darkrose) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-11-13 12:05:00


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A 6 on the Wank Scale
As we all know, the IMDb boards are a sea of splooge.The IMDb boards for Kinsey, however, are the veritable Marianas Trench of wank. Almost from the day the film was announced, conservatives have been lining up to attack what they've assumed will be a glorification of the man they blame for abortion, the Pill, gay rights, AIDS, uppity women, thong underwear and the common cold. Now that Kinsey has finally been released, the wank has spread to the mainstream media, but IMDb is still the center of the whirling vortex. This is but a Whitman's Sampler of some of the choicer bits.*

*Yes, there's some wanking from me, but I'm not posting this to [info]i_wank because it's but a drop in the ocean of splooge.



Although his posts have all been deleted, scriptstar-1 fired the first salvos, attacking Kinsey as a pedophile, and lambasting Bill "Condom" and Liam "Needsome"--because as we all know, Liam's not getting any. Mmmhmm. On a day when he was definitely off his meds, scriptstar even threatened to steal all of the copies of the film and destroy them. He seemed to have a particular grudge against Peter Saarsgard, who plays the research assistant Kinsey and his wife both sleep with in the film. (Liam boykissing! w00t!) Turns out, not surprisingly, that scriptstar has what trained therapists call "issues":

Scriptstar-1 has revealed himself before on different threads. He's the screenwriter who tried to get Sarsgaard to be in his gay-themed autobiographical screenplay, and when Sarsgaard turned it down - because scriptstar-1, as you might guess from his name, couldn't write the menu for a water fountain - scriptstar started this weird love/hate vendetta against Sarsgaard. Scriptstar-1 is a failed writer and is himself gay, and calls Sarsgaard "fag" as a twisted way of keeping himself in the successful actor's life.


I had to fap a little myself here, because I do have my priorities straight heteroflexible slashy as all fuck:

Yes, but do we finally get to see the (reportedly huge) Neeson schlong?

(Sadly, we don't.)


Speaking of Liam, Bon_Jovi_chick is confused, and repeats her question from the ourliam LJ community:

Oh Im so confused. I really want to see this film because it stars Liam Neeson. However, I've throries from such people like Judith Reisman saying he was a pervert and a disgusting person.

I dont know who to believe. Despite being a Liam fan, I have to put my morals first (I would never watch a film that glorifies a pervert or a molester etc). The question is: would it be a bad film to see this film?


I reply, but TheGhostShark puts it a bit more succinctly than I did:

Oh no! Liam Neeson is dreamy, but people I've never heard of tell me this movie is bad! Should I believe them, or think for myself?


Godwin's Law is repeatedly invoked by those claiming that Kinsey = Dr. Mengele. As the aptly-named A Plague of Losers writes:

I think this movie will to Kinsey what Triumph Of The Will was to Hitler. Unnecessarily fawning, and certainly skirting away from anything that goes against his popular perception - in Kinsey's case, as an unbiased yet 'groundbreaking' researcher by avoiding any mention that he faked(or didn't fake) his surveys. What say you?


Bill Condon's "objectivity" is questioned by people who are confusing biopics with documentaries:

Kinsey, as directed by Bill Condon, is not historical, and leaves out very important facts which ought to have been included. Primarily I refer to the issue of volunteer error, which may have significantly skewed the most controversial, and important, sets of Sexual Behavior in the Human Male's conclusions: those relating to frequency of sexual activity. Volunteers, according to Abraham Maslow and subsequent research confirming his study, are far more likely to have engaged in sex and to be permissive in sexual behavior than the general population. I learned these facts through searching Google; you can too.

I cannot believe how firmly Condon must believe this stuff; it is relevant to note that he is an open homosexual and thus Kinsey's research historically validates his own lifestyle.



In the Way Too Much Information category, we get this contribution to the discussion from Euroman_23:

I have heard that then people either masturbate or have sex, then a loat of blood is pumped from the brain, thereby making one less able to use once mind constructively, and it takes several days for this balance to recover.

I haven't had sex for over three years, and last month I stopped masturbating. Not doing anything sexual for all this time, has increased my ability to solve complicated math and chemistry problems emensly (I'm a University Student), which is good :).

Futhermore masturbating often made me depressive, so thankfully I stopped doing it :)

My case proves, that contrary to that Kinsey and others believes: Sex is not good for everyone.



And finally, a comment that sums it all up rather nicely:

You know this a pretty ironic subject for a message board. Posting on a message board is lot like masturbation. Neither is necessarily bad but they can both be a poor substitute for real human interaction.


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meshou
2004-11-13 11:20 pm UTC (link)
You mean, this guy is responsible for masturbation, divorce, and porn?

Thank you, Dr. Kinsey!

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[info]visp
2004-11-14 12:15 am UTC (link)
Seconded.

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[info]teratologist
2004-11-13 11:23 pm UTC (link)
Oh, this is beautiful.

I bet my dream-project biopic of Luther Burbank will NEVER get this much wank, sadly.

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[info]jess_d_ripper
2004-11-13 11:29 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, I've been eagerly anticipating Kinsey wank since I heard groups of "renewed virgins" would be picketing the film.

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[info]tempslut
2004-11-14 12:59 am UTC (link)
I wonder if their "renewed" status carries over to the mouth and/or butt as well.

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[info]loki
2004-11-13 11:45 pm UTC (link)
PEADOPHILES! SCUM OF THE EARTH!

For real!

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(no subject) - [info]missi, 2004-11-14 12:19 am UTC

[info]visp
2004-11-14 12:33 am UTC (link)
Futhermore masturbating often made me depressive, so thankfully I stopped doing it :)

Well you were obviously doing something wrong.

My case proves, that contrary to that Kinsey and others believes: Sex is not good for everyone.

Normally, I would just laugh at this, but in your case I'll agree that anything procreative should not be done by you.

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No wonder I'm so bad at math! - [info]jess_d_ripper, 2004-11-14 01:04 am UTC
Re: No wonder I'm so bad at math! - [info]visp, 2004-11-14 04:45 am UTC
Re: No wonder I'm so bad at math! - [info]vassilissa, 2004-11-14 10:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2004-11-17 02:10 am UTC
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[info]tempslut
2004-11-14 01:02 am UTC (link)
And yet, I bet some of these people read Shakespeare, who wrote some pretty dirty shit himself back in the day.

(I think he used the f-word, too, or something close to it, if I'm not mistaken. I need to consult The Complete Works of Shakespeare on this one.)

Also, for the people who think Kinsey "invented" porn, I have a DVD of old stag films, most pre-Kinsey study, that would totally contradict their claims. Of course, then they'd point their fingers at...Freud?

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[info]kinneas
2004-11-14 01:13 am UTC (link)
WHEN will people learn that GODDAMN the term is not conservative, it is neo-conservative and more predominantly neo-liberal?!

Augh, pet peeve of DOOM.

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(no subject) - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-11-14 07:31 am UTC
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[info]ashenmote
2004-11-14 02:00 am UTC (link)
Whoa, sometimes I wish that everyone would automatically live in the era they long for. Pre-Kinsey, pre-zeppelin, real or imagined, I really don't care. Just make an end to all this whining from the temporally misplaced.

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(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2004-11-14 02:05 am UTC
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Ancient Purple Frogs, represent!! - [info]teratologist, 2004-11-14 05:45 am UTC
Re: Ancient Purple Frogs, represent!! - [info]rosalita, 2004-11-14 07:00 pm UTC
Possibly off topic question
(Anonymous)
2004-11-14 02:15 am UTC (link)
Lately issues relating to homosexuality/homophobia/gay rights seem to be cropping up a lot more (Due to the election and gay marriage I guess). Before this I didn't realise how prevalent homophobia seems to still be in America. Then again I'm not sure if I'm getting that impression due to a large part of that exposure being Slash!wank and Yaoi!wank read here.

Also, I'm not sure if things are better/worse here in the UK or I'm just not being exposed to them as I'm currently in a pretty gay/lesbian/other friendly environment/circle of friends. I tried to find some statistics using Google but didn't have much luck.

Which leads me to my question. Does anyone know of a good source for such statistics? Particularly any about prevalence of homophobia around the world?

Sorry for being kind of off topic.

The wank though, WTF sums it up pretty neatly. The only thing I can think of that would be better is if anyone knows an emoticon for a finger. Then we could tell >< vs. >0 guy to sit and spin.
~enigma_o on LJ

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Re: Possibly off topic question - [info]adora_spintriae, 2004-11-14 04:12 am UTC
Re: Possibly off topic question - (Anonymous), 2004-11-14 05:20 am UTC
Re: Possibly off topic question - [info]tigerlily, 2004-11-15 09:03 pm UTC

[info]xero_sky
2004-11-14 02:19 am UTC (link)
I have heard that then people either masturbate or have sex, then a loat of blood is pumped from the brain, thereby making one less able to use once mind constructively, and it takes several days for this balance to recover.

That's awesome.

That particular version of "sex makes you dumb" has been going around since, what, the ancient Greeks?

He sounds like an early Renaissance friar trying to explain how chastity has made him both holy *and* smart.

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[info]khym_chanur
2004-11-14 02:49 am UTC (link)
Okay, I really don't get these people saying that Kinsey is teh EVOL. Are they saying he was negligent for not realizing that his research methodologies were flawed? That he manipulated his methodologies and/or data to suit his ideology? That nobody should have done such research into sex?

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(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2004-11-14 03:07 am UTC
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[info]adora_spintriae
2004-11-14 03:59 am UTC (link)
I wonder if these whackjobs realise it's publicity like this that makes people like me want to see this movie.

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[info]also_not_a_pipe
2004-11-14 04:51 am UTC (link)
I have heard that then people either masturbate or have sex, then a loat of blood is pumped from the brain, thereby making one less able to use once mind constructively, and it takes several days for this balance to recover.

I haven't had sex for over three years, and last month I stopped masturbating. Not doing anything sexual for all this time, has increased my ability to solve complicated math and chemistry problems emensly (I'm a University Student), which is good :).


Mm. Kid, you do know that there are other types of erotica that don't involve asphyxiation, right?

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(no subject) - [info]ramlatch, 2004-11-14 11:39 pm UTC

[info]missi
2004-11-14 04:58 am UTC (link)
I have heard that then people either masturbate or have sex, then a loat of blood is pumped from the brain, thereby making one less able to use once mind constructively, and it takes several days for this balance to recover.

So maybe THAT's where my short term memory has gone to.

And here I thought it was all that pot I smoked in college.

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[info]greenglass
2004-11-14 06:22 am UTC (link)
I have heard that then people either masturbate or have sex, then a loat of blood is pumped from the brain, thereby making one less able to use once mind constructively, and it takes several days for this balance to recover.

Funny. If I don't get off once a week or so, I can't think straight at all. My brain suddenly centers around my vagina and my school work goes to crap.

That's why I must get laid lots during finals week.

For women, I wouldn't think it would take that much blood away from the brain. Sure, our organs fill up too, but not as much. I would think women woudl loose a lot more blood during hteir periods and wouldn't be able to think then. But that only would happen if we followed this dumb logic.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-11-14 10:10 pm UTC

[info]mastervex
2004-11-14 06:33 am UTC (link)
...Why the hell would someone want their virginity back?

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(no subject) - [info]trollprincess, 2004-11-15 01:09 am UTC

[info]necronomist
2004-11-14 07:30 am UTC (link)
"thong underwear and the common cold."

No, no, Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt invented the thong and the common cold, respectively.

/me listening to "Nasty Habits," real appropriate for the movie, yes?

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(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2004-11-14 09:07 am UTC

[info]blackjackrocket
2004-11-14 09:08 am UTC (link)
I was wondering when this movie was coming out.

...I'm not sure why, since I can't stand seeing things in theatres and will catch it on video instead, but wondering just the same.

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(Anonymous)
2004-11-14 09:40 am UTC (link)
Porn and masturbation?
I owe half my life to Kinesy.
-Swirl_girl

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(Anonymous)
2004-11-14 06:32 pm UTC (link)
"Sexual revolution?" Damn, it's been a while since I heard that one. Now I long for an icon that uses that and the phrase "First one up against the wall..."


--funwithrage

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-11-16 01:59 am UTC

[info]fistshaker
2004-11-15 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Alfred Kinsey is responsible in part for my generation being forced to deal face-to-face with the devastating consequences of sexually transmitted diseases, pornography and abortion

Wow. There are devastating consequences of pornography?

And any time someone mentions "the homosexual agenda" I can't help but laugh. That's right, the Gay Mafia will fuck your shit up... subliminally!

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(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2004-11-16 12:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amandatwop, 2004-11-16 12:56 am UTC
Please note the sarcasm - (Anonymous), 2004-11-16 04:00 am UTC

[info]zarla
2004-11-16 01:29 am UTC (link)
Dang, I must be under a rock. I've read all about Kinsey and his studies before, but I didn't know they made a movie about him.
I should make a note to go see that.

I wonder if some people are just upset about the whole Kinsey Scale and everyone being a "little bit gay" because NO ONE CAN EVER BE A LITTLE GAY EVER

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[info]alpheratz
2004-11-16 03:41 pm UTC (link)
This wank is the best advertising ever.

...Only they're not showing this movie in my city. Woe.

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