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	goblin 2004-11-17 01:47 am UTC (link)
	Wow, those are some damn long posts. That takes some serious dedication right there. Perhaps the most impressive wanker was "Lady Aldariel" (hehe) who managed to switch font colors four times in one post. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	iscoffy 2004-11-17 02:22 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I was gonna say, ow, the red text! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	arielchan 2004-11-17 06:09 am UTC (link)
	Icon love! ...That is all. ~Ariel~ (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ladyrogue 2004-11-17 09:46 am UTC (link)
	Johnny Depp is the awesome! CantwaitforJuly! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	visp 2004-11-17 06:18 am UTC (link)
	I should probably know this, but who's Jorn? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	bubba_ray 2004-11-17 06:36 am UTC (link)
	Jorn Bezorn is the guy that played Rumiel in LOTR:FOTR, IIRC he is something of an F_W celebrity, at least he got more popularity here then through his actual involvement in the movie. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	terminal_frost 2004-11-17 06:49 am UTC (link)
	And apparently is a legend in his own mind too. "OMG I WAS PART OF ONE OF THE GREATEST CINEMATIC EPICS OF ALL TIME!! I'M FAMOUS!!!" "No you're not; you're a glorified extra. Now sit back down and put pin to ego - it needs deflating." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	bubba_ray 2004-11-17 08:24 am UTC (link)
	Too bad that I always seem to blink and miss his scene. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ladyrogue 2004-11-17 09:50 am UTC (link)
	Me too. Seems his "undying fans" don't seem to realize that. Too much of the "OHGOD I'M TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO WAS IN LOTR" mentality methinks. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	platedlizard 2004-11-17 10:06 am UTC (link)
	Wait a minute, I finally figured out which one was Figwit, so who the hell is this Rumial(sp?) guy? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

terminal_frost
2004-11-17 10:17 am UTC (link)

Wait a minute, I finally figured out which one was Figwit, so who the hell is this Rumial(sp?) guy?

(Figwit: LOTR's answer to the "Where's Waldo?" craze.)

Rumil is apparently (don't quote me; I'm not a fan) the brother/companion of some sort to Haldir, and is one of the two blonde ~~ladies~~ Elves pointing arrows at the Fellowship as they enter into Galadriel's forest.

They didn't have speaking parts so they're easy to overlook.

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	platedlizard 2004-11-17 10:24 am UTC (link)
	Ah, thanks. I think. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2004-11-17 01:33 pm UTC (link)
	Rumil is actually mentioned in the books too..you people seem to forget that. God,people need to leave Jorn alone.I've talked to him online before,and he's decent.Unlike mst of the idiots who start ;ame threads like this. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jess_d_ripper 2004-11-17 01:49 pm UTC (link)
	Bwahaha! You're neat. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	raptoe 2004-11-17 03:27 pm UTC (link)
	He is a great guy, sadly some of his fans are wanky and scary like hell. FYI he indeed played Rumil (haldirs little brother ;-P) And a gondarion soldier and more elves and orcs. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rachel_04 2004-11-17 08:05 pm UTC (link)
	Raptoe: Best icon ever. (Reply to this)(Parent)

diamonde
2004-11-17 03:37 pm UTC (link)

And how does the character having a presence in the book makes the actor not a glorified extra? The only difference the character in the book made to Jorn's movie role was that it got a name other than 'Elf Archer #2'.

I'm sure he's a very nice man. But Peter O'Toole got to play Henry II twice and still can't invade France, y'know?

Christ on a crumpet, I hate it when mice come in here and start getting high and mighty about 'you people'. There's bloody hundreds of us, variety is represented.

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	raptoe 2004-11-17 03:44 pm UTC (link)
	well at least it easier to call him Rumil instead of "the one guy who played the elf standing next to haldir" So much shorter ;-) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ashenmote 2004-11-17 05:04 pm UTC (link)
	And yet, that's exactly what the name means in Adunaic. (In the more succinct elven tongue, it means "Elf Archer #2", of course). (Reply to this)(Parent)

nights_mistress
2004-11-17 10:28 pm UTC (link)

I blame your icon, the wank and the early hour, because when I read your 'you people', I instantly thought "Ewe people? New Zealanders? We have some here?"

For those who don't know, there are a lot of jokes about how New Zealanders screw sheep. It comes from the fact that there are something like 100 sheep per person in NZ. It really does make you wonder how Peter Jackson actually found tracts of land devoid of sheep. Although, you know you wanted the Rohirrim to ride sheep instead of horses.

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	(Anonymous) 2004-11-18 06:21 am UTC (link)
	Actual ratio of sheep to people in NZ, 14 sheep: 1 person. We're just lucky they don't vote (because you know they'd vote National). Incidentally, cattle farming is rapidly overtaking sheep farming in NZ, people will have to go back to making the sheep shagging jokes about Scots and Welsh. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	diamonde 2004-11-18 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	My mum laughs over the sheep when she watches FotR. We lived next to a sheep farm in Tasmania briefly, you get to recognise the tracks they make - like the ones all through Hobbiton in the beginning. Gets her giggling every time. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	phosfate 2004-11-17 04:44 pm UTC (link)
	God,people need to leave Jorn alone. Unless they're you, of course. OMG I MSUT DEFND HM! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	big_bad_wolf 2004-11-17 05:10 pm UTC (link)
	Is that a CLASSY ELLIPSE I see there? It almost makes up for the malfunctioning space bar on you computer. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	nevadafighter 2004-11-18 10:13 am UTC (link)
	Jorn, is that you, sweetie? And what's an ";ame thread"? Inquirin' minds wanna know. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	visp 2004-11-17 08:56 pm UTC (link)
	Who's Rumiel? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	raptoe 2004-11-17 10:50 pm UTC (link)
	Rumil's evil twin brother.. When at helms deep look at the elves next to Aragorn and than the second from behind, third of the right with the blonde hair, pointy ears and helmet. You can't miss him :-P (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mrbimble 2004-11-18 05:53 am UTC (link)
	mwah! because, you know, there are only one or two with blond hair and pointy ears. Jorn's famus! I'm spechul, he talked to me! be nice! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	raptoe 2004-11-17 04:50 pm UTC (link)
	I am just amazed by the fact that somehow they are unable to grasp the concept of different opinions. It is that you are either with them or against them, which is rather childish. And If I see the way some people keep nagging about it and they have outed their critism, I can't blame AM for not replying to them. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kraken_sleeps 2004-11-17 07:32 pm UTC (link)
	OMG I love your icon. fangirls (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	raptoe 2004-11-17 10:50 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you... (Reply to this)(Parent)

mistressrenet
2004-11-17 07:37 pm UTC (link)

And If I see the way some people keep nagging about it and they have outed their critism, I can't blame AM for not replying to them.

Haven't you heard the old saying, 'if you're happy you might tell one friend, if you're not you'll tell ten?' I can't believe AM hasn't tried to bribe them, or at least sent some letters of apology. That's just bad business practice, IMO.

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	raptoe 2004-11-17 10:55 pm UTC (link)
	I am more or less suprised by the ammounts of energy they spend each day to repeat their MotR mantra's. But than again we are talking about LotR fandom here and most of them are not the brightest crayons in the box. They thought it would blow over soon. but than again these are very dedicated "fans" (Reply to this)(Parent)

	nevadafighter 2004-11-18 10:15 am UTC (link)
	It is that you are either with them or against them, which is rather childish. Tell that to our President (assuming you're in the US, if not, hit me with a fish). His whole administration is built on that principle. ;P (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	diamonde 2004-11-18 04:44 pm UTC (link)
	And here in Australia the government is with him, the people are against him and although some of the armed forces have gone to Iraq, they bitched about it and were not good little minions. Thus we are too complicated and he avoids mentioning us at any point. (Reply to this)(Parent)

octavia
2004-11-18 02:17 am UTC (link)

Actually the really fun part was where, just after the con, critic started flowing in on AM's messageboards, and the AM admins instead of reacting somewhat rationally, mouthed everybody off and eventually banned the whole lot, until both their sites went 'down' with a 'traffic overload' message that was misspelled. While, oops, the messageboards on the same domain were still functioning. One of the guests, Lawrence Makoare, even left a furious message, saying he'd inform every potential future guest not to get involved with them. Eventually the AM-sites claimed database errors, AM deleted everything on the debacle, turned off their phones and postponed 'til further notice their next upcoming Rings-event in the US. Now there's no trace at all of there ever having been a Master of the Ring event on their site. Now that was wanky.

Ah well, it's all water under the bridge now, but it was fascinating to watch the AM-people try their utmost not to take any of the blame for totally screwing up.

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	ladyrogue 2004-11-18 04:17 am UTC (link)
	Interesting... this info should be added to this post! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	octavia 2004-11-18 10:58 am UTC (link)
	Nice! :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	adora_spintriae 2004-11-18 04:05 am UTC (link)
	I don't care about the wank. I'm just here to bask in the beauty of the icon. basks (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ladyrogue 2004-11-18 04:14 am UTC (link)
	Hee. I could bask in the glory of Johnny all day. ^^ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jaseroque 2004-11-18 09:08 am UTC (link)
	Yes. Yes indeed. So I must know -- where is that beautiful icon from? You must pardon my lack of Depp-knowledge, I hopped on the band-wagon rather late (but now I'm here, I'm staying!) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ladyrogue 2004-11-18 05:13 pm UTC (link)
	Actually a friend made it for me because of an icon-making meme. ^.^ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rogue 2004-11-18 09:54 am UTC (link)
	joins in the basking Why hello there. You have great taste in usernames, if I do say so myself. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ladyrogue 2004-11-18 05:14 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you! As do you. <3 (Reply to this)(Parent)

	raptoe 2004-11-19 01:36 pm UTC (link)
	Whoa cool, new developements... One of the actors/ guests is joining the "discussion". (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-11-20 10:34 pm UTC (link)
	Small world! I'm not sure if I should be proud to be part of the wank. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

raptoe
2004-11-20 10:51 pm UTC (link)

Don't be...
I am just amused by it as in the end nothing much changed and it remained insane as hell.
If they had acted more sane in the beginning and had organised themselves a bit better they would have had a lot more impact. But now it remains unorganised as hell and really misses the point and the impact they so badly want to have.

But at least emotions are settling down a bit.. So onwards to another wank..

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	(Anonymous) 2004-11-20 11:33 pm UTC (link)
	Same as the last event.. it'll all die down and leave a nasty taste in a few fans mouths. Nothing ever changes.... (Reply to this)(Parent)