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Lasha ([info]lasha) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-12-09 17:03:00


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Current mood:OMGWTF
Current music:AC/DC, "Back in Black"

Stalking, Hitler, bannings...Oh my!
A recent catfight brawl has broken out in the normally serene Starsky & Hutch fandom - my main fandom.

Two fans, Cyn and Helene, have had the nerve to question or make fun of everyone (including such BNF's as Flamingo and Suzan Lovett).

Cyn and Helene challenge other S&H fans' judgment, scruples, writing skills, their ability to publish zines, hold conventions, sing songs at conventions, create artwork, etc. The wank never ends.

It's gotten so bad that one person even broke Godwin's Law calling the two women "mini Hitlers" on the S/H Venice Place list. (Wait it gets better, it seems that Cyn actually is related to a former Nazi - her grandfather - and she took offense to that comment.)

The uproar began when Cyn created a new S/H mailing list called SHFandomcircle.

The groups's purpose, you ask? "This group is dedicated to Starsky Hutch and the fandom which has sprung from it. Here you can post stories, talk about other lists, other fans, snark about the fandom, review stories and just about whatever happens to cross your mind at any given moment. I'm just a mod. I'm not a fandom queen, I'm not a zine publisher or a zine editor. I'm not even a beta. I'm just a fan who is very opinionated and enjoys a good discussion...

Names can be named and no one is looking to force someone to go with the rest of the crowd. Cursing is welcomed and encouraged if venting is needed. This is a place to speak your mind even if you believe it to be an unpopular viewpoint."


However, it seems the only snarking that can be done on the new list is by the list admin and her unnamed co-moderator, Helene. While there are tons of wanky moments in their mailing list archive, it seems recent battle(s) spawned a 'parody' story.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/cynatnite/4470.html

In this thread, Cyn writes a story that mocks and defames most of the fandom and it's main mailing list (Venice Place), including said owner of that list and many long-time S/H fans, so when people show up to lodge their complaints, Cyn calls S/H fans "stupid."

However the funniest part is when an anonymous writer posts an
epilogue
to Cyn's story. In it Cyn and Helene's 'characters' (Thelma and Louise) are killed off.


Cyn cries foul, you stole my story! Plagiarist!


And what's a good wank without anonymous mouse post?

Finally, Fandom_Wank is mentioned. Cyn thinks being named on it will make her 'famous:'

"Wow, I forgot all about this! Does that mean you're gonna make me famous? I mean you put a link directly to them! You know you've really made it when that happens. ;) "

The wank rulz the world - and makes you infamous too!

To recap: we've had mentions of Hitler, fandom wank, stalking, anonymous posters, people being banned/moderated from lists, bad fandom parodies stories, name calling, newish fans vs. old school slashers, etc.

All we need now is a death threat, a sockpuppet and we'd hit the motherload of all wanks in one sitting.


While I am on the Venice Place list and I did post a couple of times about this wank, I didn't post this on [info]i_wank as I didn't engage in any fighting with the two wankers. Mostly my comments were, "Why has this NOT made Fandom_Wank?" After waiting a couple of days and not seeing it here, I figured I'd nominate it. If you think I should move it to [info]i_wank, let me know.



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[info]phosfate
2004-12-10 01:05 am UTC (link)
Humor is indeed a wonderful thing as long as one does not take oneself so seriously.

Mac and cheese is lovely as long as it contains pasta and dairy.

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[info]teratologist
2004-12-10 02:11 am UTC (link)
OMG you're oppressing the gluten-intolerant vegans!

Denying them mac and cheese, which is the very heart and soul and ass of America!

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[info]loki
2004-12-10 02:44 am UTC (link)
...and not spooge from your favorite actor.

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[info]phosfate
2004-12-10 05:19 am UTC (link)
I knew I should have thought of something that wasn't mac and cheese. I just knew it. Now the flashbacks will start again.

*reaches for fork*

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"ROFLMAO"
[info]alison
2004-12-10 01:32 am UTC (link)
Helene: What's a flist?

Cyn: Whatever it is, you're the only one that's on it. ROFL

I love their over usage of the terms: LOL, ROFL, ROFLMAO. I have to agree with anon, are they 12 or don't they know any other slang? They put LOL in nearly every post, surely everything cannot be that funny.

I have some new Internet slang they can use:

STFU= Shut the fuck up
Wanker= Look in the mirror

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Re: "ROFLMAO"
[info]semtex
2004-12-10 01:39 am UTC (link)
But you forgot ESAD

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Re: "ROFLMAO"
(Anonymous)
2004-12-10 01:52 am UTC (link)
>But you forgot ESAD

Definition please?

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Re: "ROFLMAO" - (Anonymous), 2004-12-10 02:16 am UTC
Re: "ROFLMAO" - [info]semtex, 2004-12-10 02:34 am UTC
Re: "ROFLMAO"
[info]annabelle_lee
2004-12-10 05:56 am UTC (link)
Goddamnit! Do you know how much koolaid burns when it comes out of your nose? XD (thank you for that laugh, by the way.)

Don't forget this one:
asshat=the thinking cap you're wearing on your head.

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Re: "ROFLMAO"
dodyskin
2004-12-10 06:27 pm UTC (link)
I confess I thought that <3 meant asshat for some time.

::is ashamed::

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Re: "ROFLMAO" - (Anonymous), 2004-12-10 09:42 pm UTC
Re: "ROFLMAO" - [info]annabelle_lee, 2004-12-10 10:01 pm UTC
Re: "ROFLMAO" - [info]andsoyoudied, 2004-12-10 11:54 pm UTC
Re: "ROFLMAO" - dodyskin, 2004-12-11 02:22 am UTC
Re: "ROFLMAO" - [info]puipui, 2004-12-11 03:50 am UTC
Re: "ROFLMAO"
[info]shinigami_co
2004-12-10 06:41 am UTC (link)
That's just what I was thinking to myself. I was reading through it, breathing deeply, with a time-honored mantra running through my head: "'lol' is not a punctuation mark, 'lol' is not a punctuation mark"...

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Re: "ROFLMAO" - [info]kraken_sleeps, 2004-12-10 03:01 pm UTC
Re: "ROFLMAO" - [info]andsoyoudied, 2004-12-10 07:30 pm UTC

[info]semtex
2004-12-10 01:37 am UTC (link)
All we need now is a death threat, a sockpuppet..

The Anonymous points out that Helene is the only LJ friend that defends her she be a sockpuppet much?

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*headdesk*
[info]semtex
2004-12-10 02:38 am UTC (link)
oops damn fumbly fingers! I curse thee!

Correction:

The Anonymous points out that Helene is the only LJ friend that defends her could she be a sockpuppet?

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Re: *headdesk* - (Anonymous), 2004-12-10 03:15 am UTC
Re: *headdesk* - [info]mpoetess, 2004-12-10 07:58 am UTC
Is that a sign of Teh End Times? - [info]semtex, 2004-12-10 08:28 pm UTC
Re: *headdesk* - [info]prettypinkkitty, 2004-12-10 02:01 pm UTC
Re: *headdesk* - [info]temari, 2004-12-10 04:34 am UTC
Re: *headdesk* - [info]semtex, 2004-12-10 08:32 pm UTC

[info]temari
2004-12-10 02:07 am UTC (link)
it seems that Cyn actually is related to a former Nazi - her grandfather - and she took offense to that comment.)

Perhaps I'm missreading this but isn't it normal to take offence when someone calls you a mini-Hitler?

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[info]lasha
2004-12-10 02:13 am UTC (link)
No one knew about her grandfather being a Nazi until she posted.

As for people calling her "Hilter," I cannot count how many mailing lists I've been on where people were referred to as "Stalin," "Hitler," or some other dead Axis power leader. Not saying it's right, just common; otherwise why else would Godwin's Law exist?

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(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2004-12-10 02:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loki, 2004-12-10 02:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lasha, 2004-12-10 02:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2004-12-10 03:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2004-12-10 09:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-12-10 10:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]farohji, 2004-12-10 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2004-12-10 06:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2004-12-11 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-12-11 10:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-12-12 02:05 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-12-12 08:45 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-12-10 04:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alpheratz, 2004-12-10 06:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2004-12-10 06:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alpheratz, 2004-12-10 06:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]goldberry, 2004-12-10 08:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2004-12-10 08:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]goldberry, 2004-12-11 04:07 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-12-11 05:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-12-10 03:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2004-12-10 03:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]andsoyoudied, 2004-12-10 07:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mael, 2004-12-10 08:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]andsoyoudied, 2004-12-10 08:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]goldberry, 2004-12-10 02:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2004-12-10 03:08 am UTC
Toepick! - [info]kimberlyfdr, 2004-12-10 03:27 am UTC
Re: Toepick! - [info]ladysorka, 2004-12-10 03:30 am UTC
Re: Toepick! - [info]crickets, 2004-12-10 05:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2004-12-10 06:01 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-12-10 09:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kraken_sleeps, 2004-12-10 02:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mael, 2004-12-10 08:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2004-12-10 08:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kraken_sleeps, 2004-12-11 04:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2004-12-11 12:02 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-12-13 07:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2004-12-13 09:15 pm UTC

[info]puipui
2004-12-10 03:23 am UTC (link)
Two fans, Cyn and Helene, have had the nerve to question or make fun of everyone

My god. How dare they?!?

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[info]temari
2004-12-10 03:48 am UTC (link)
Oh they dare. They dare.

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-12-10 05:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2004-12-10 08:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-12-10 09:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2004-12-11 12:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-12-11 12:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mireille, 2004-12-11 06:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]necronomist, 2004-12-11 05:06 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-12-10 08:10 am UTC (link)
The most amusing thing about FandomCircle so far is that they continue to mock people who unsub. As though their mocking will be read...by someone who unsubs. *scratches head*

Ginalin

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[info]skjeve
2004-12-10 11:41 am UTC (link)
~snicker~ In all fairness, when I was wanked, I posted something in my personal LJ about having 'made it' as well. There is some sense of legitimacy that comes with being thrown to the wolves at Fandom_Wank, oddly. :D

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[info]kinneas
2004-12-10 03:39 pm UTC (link)
Amen to that. I felt a giant swelling of pride (and certainly other things) after johnxjohn got its second wank.

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[info]snacky
2004-12-10 08:45 pm UTC (link)
Two fans, Cyn and Helene, have had the nerve to question or make fun of everyone (including such BNF's as Flamingo and Suzan Lovett).

I smell... GRUDGE WANK!

Cyn cries foul, you stole my story! Plagiarist!

She really didn't seem to take it that seriously. Yep, grudge wank, indeed.

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[info]lasha
2004-12-10 10:37 pm UTC (link)
You have heard of sarcasm?

Damn, I guess I should have put /sarcasm on and /sarcasm off labels on the wank.

Nobody seems to understand my brand of humor.

*goes off to cry*

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(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2004-12-10 11:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lasha, 2004-12-10 11:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2004-12-10 11:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lasha, 2004-12-11 12:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2004-12-11 12:45 am UTC

[info]rustybitch
2004-12-11 02:57 am UTC (link)
Are we supposed to wank this Cyn and Helene for having the *gasp* audacity to poke fun at "established" writers in their fandom?
I feel more like wanking the others, but then I've been too lazy to follow all the threads.
Either that, or my brain is tired.

*Sniffles and feel sorry for self*

What does BNF mean?

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BNF
(Anonymous)
2004-12-11 03:33 am UTC (link)
BNF = Big Name Fan

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[info]alison
2004-12-11 05:34 am UTC (link)
I thought we were wanking the sucky lousy poorly written parody that [info]cynatnite had created to mock her fellow S&H fans.

LOL. ROTFLMAO.

Thelma + Louise = OTP

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(no subject) - [info]andsoyoudied, 2004-12-11 01:26 pm UTC

[info]ladyrogue
2004-12-13 07:42 am UTC (link)
It's always my fandoms that get the trolls.

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