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Kerianne (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} kerikeri) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2003-05-29 12:53:00 |
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Fanfiction wank
Hey. I've been lurking here for a long time, since the Livejournal days, but this is my first post. I bring you a wank that has it all-- outraged moral criticisms, 12-year-olds with bad grammar, overdramatic fanfiction authors and more. It's on a members-only (but open-membership) mailing list, but I'll do my best to reproduce it here.
(A bit of background: This wank takes place on the CLAMP Fanfiction Mailing List, an ML dedicated to all works by the manga artist team CLAMP. You don't have to be familiar with them to appreciate the wankiness, however.)
First, someone posts outlining a fanfic idea he had and asking the rest of the members to tell him whether or not he should write it. He specifically states that though he considered writing a lemon, he has decided instead to leave the explicit parts out.
Another member, "Tuttiegirl", responds with this short and sweet message:
ewww don't write a lemon
Other listmembers jump in:
Why not? In 'Wish', overt sexuality is a given... The elements are there, and an author who ignores them is not being true to the series or the characters.
I think a bit more open-mindedness might be in order. CLAMP is very sexual, and saying "ewww" is a bit... well, childish. I understand your dislike for the genre, but condemning it without even listening to the fic is a very narrow view.
Tuttiegirl goes into a bit more detail about her views:
I've only bought wish 4 but still DON'T write a lemon. That is so gross. think are ur little sexual thoughts in your head but don't write a story about it. and now I am getting rid of my wish book. Besides its like morally wrong.
If you want to write a lemon, go ahead. Saying ewww is how I feel. sure clamp can write sexual stuff but does that mean you have to write it? And you have your views and I have mine. You asked if you should write one and I expressed my opinion. I think doing that is wrong. and to me its just gross. BUt if you really want to write it go ahead. I don't care. I'm just not going to read it. But I don't want to be looking for fan fics on the internet and come across stuff like that. The internet is pornfilled and messed up as it is. Call me childish but maybe I'm more mature because I realise that its goes against my views and my beliefs I'm going to say soemthing about it!!! You have your own little world of ideas, but don't expect me to be happy and agree with them
Then, in one of the greatest analogies known to man, she compares NC-17 fanfiction to tampons:
and I don't want to read it!!! I don't like lemons!!!! I'm only in Jr. High!!!! ITs gross to me!!! It'll always be gross to me!!! I am being openminded, but I don't want to read gross stuff. Its like asking you to read a large descriptive article on tampons. ITs just not right.
And as if that weren't wanky enough, the original poster decides to react to all this as melodramatically as possible:
I said from the beginning that I was not going to write anything explicit. My story would be about the relationship and the consequences, not the act.
However, it has become obvious that I have caused too great a
disturbance for my continued presence to be justified. Not only am I not going to write this fic, but in three days I intend to leave the list is penance.
* There is no fic. There will be no fic. The censors have spoken.
* Believe me, I want to tell this story. But someone else does not want me to, and that is reason enough for me to abandon the idea. Further, she believes that I am some sort of immoral monster for it. Nothing could be further from the truth - I am, in fact, a very moral person who would never hurt anyone deliberately. But hurt someone I have, and I must be punished for it even if the punishment is self-inflicted.
I never said I was going to write a lemon. I said I was going to write a fic about the consequences of forming a relationship. But, you're right. I shouldn't write this story. In fact, you have persuaded me that I should never write again.
I can't decide who's wankier-- the prudish teenybopper or the drama-queen author. Either way, I thought it was worth sharing.
Hey. I've been lurking here for a long time, since the Livejournal days, but this is my first post. I bring you a wank that has it all-- outraged moral criticisms, 12-year-olds with bad grammar, overdramatic fanfiction authors and more. It's on a members-only (but open-membership) mailing list, but I'll do my best to reproduce it here.
(A bit of background: This wank takes place on the CLAMP Fanfiction Mailing List, an ML dedicated to all works by the manga artist team CLAMP. You don't have to be familiar with them to appreciate the wankiness, however.)
First, someone posts outlining a fanfic idea he had and asking the rest of the members to tell him whether or not he should write it. He specifically states that though he considered writing a lemon, he has decided instead to leave the explicit parts out.
Another member, "Tuttiegirl", responds with this short and sweet message:
ewww don't write a lemon
Other listmembers jump in:
Why not? In 'Wish', overt sexuality is a given... The elements are there, and an author who ignores them is not being true to the series or the characters.
I think a bit more open-mindedness might be in order. CLAMP is very sexual, and saying "ewww" is a bit... well, childish. I understand your dislike for the genre, but condemning it without even listening to the fic is a very narrow view.
Tuttiegirl goes into a bit more detail about her views:
I've only bought wish 4 but still DON'T write a lemon. That is so gross. think are ur little sexual thoughts in your head but don't write a story about it. and now I am getting rid of my wish book. Besides its like morally wrong.
If you want to write a lemon, go ahead. Saying ewww is how I feel. sure clamp can write sexual stuff but does that mean you have to write it? And you have your views and I have mine. You asked if you should write one and I expressed my opinion. I think doing that is wrong. and to me its just gross. BUt if you really want to write it go ahead. I don't care. I'm just not going to read it. But I don't want to be looking for fan fics on the internet and come across stuff like that. The internet is pornfilled and messed up as it is. Call me childish but maybe I'm more mature because I realise that its goes against my views and my beliefs I'm going to say soemthing about it!!! You have your own little world of ideas, but don't expect me to be happy and agree with them
Then, in one of the greatest analogies known to man, she compares NC-17 fanfiction to tampons:
and I don't want to read it!!! I don't like lemons!!!! I'm only in Jr. High!!!! ITs gross to me!!! It'll always be gross to me!!! I am being openminded, but I don't want to read gross stuff. Its like asking you to read a large descriptive article on tampons. ITs just not right.
And as if that weren't wanky enough, the original poster decides to react to all this as melodramatically as possible:
I said from the beginning that I was not going to write anything explicit. My story would be about the relationship and the consequences, not the act.
However, it has become obvious that I have caused too great a
disturbance for my continued presence to be justified. Not only am I not going to write this fic, but in three days I intend to leave the list is penance.
* There is no fic. There will be no fic. The censors have spoken.
* Believe me, I want to tell this story. But someone else does not want me to, and that is reason enough for me to abandon the idea. Further, she believes that I am some sort of immoral monster for it. Nothing could be further from the truth - I am, in fact, a very moral person who would never hurt anyone deliberately. But hurt someone I have, and I must be punished for it even if the punishment is self-inflicted.
I never said I was going to write a lemon. I said I was going to write a fic about the consequences of forming a relationship. But, you're right. I shouldn't write this story. In fact, you have persuaded me that I should never write again.
I can't decide who's wankier-- the prudish teenybopper or the drama-queen author. Either way, I thought it was worth sharing.
