Hello, Buffy badfic wank!
Aurora Derall here again, and reporting for yet another fandom I'm not into! Anyway:

I always knew there was a good reason to hang around the Mary Sue Report community. However, while it was the place where I got this scoop, this story ain't really about them.

See, today was just like any ol' day - we had one of the average posts mocking an MS writer's hissyfit. Everyone was having their usual fun poking holes at the person's argument, when ginmar decides to join in by sharing an even BETTER fit thrown by a Buffyfic writer. To give you an idea of who we're dealing with, I quote the summary ginmar so thoughtfully provided:

"Oh, God, where do I start? She writes rapefic where the character likes it, and where the rape is presented as justified punishment. Then she refers to it as 'naughty.' She encourages some really scary people to write really misogynistic fic, and she's part of the Babyverse---where some white-trash trailer park creature has taken the part of Buffy, and any old character from any old fandom becomes the writers' sex toys. The Baby character is a blatant self-insert. The writer was utterly bewildered when confronted with the fact that two men sexually fondling and then penetrating a drugged woman was rape. Oh, and she's not a teenybopper, either."

Now, this isn't particularly wanky in and of itself. It's a concept that is rife with badfic, but it's not wank. To quote the OP's reaction at being shown this: "Sordid sex can be damned funny but if you're going to do something controversial do it well and be prepared to stand your ground with an intelligent argument behind it.

However (because there's always a "however" in these things), this is where the wank comes in: Because the "No Cookie For You: Bad Buffy Fic" group dared to point and laugh at this particular author, the author retaliates by taking down her fics and posting a notice (as a fic) of why she took them down. And the beauty of the wank spills into the reviews, too!

ginmar also tells us: "She's threatening now to put her fics back up, now that she's gotten attention and petting and so on." All I can say is: Joy?


Thank you again for pointing this out to others, ginmar!



Edit: Since ginmar ain't a member of F_W (yet), I just thought I'd share what she just added now to the MS thread with the rest of the comm:

"Well, it gets better and better. Here's the reply I was going to post over there, but I really must go and beg for a code soon.

I forgot to mention a couple of things: that this writer has written RP fic before, and that she's now harassing other writers with whiny reviews about how they've been mean to her. Like, you know, she didn't do anything. And of course, there's the fact that she used my pen name as the title of her rant at AFF. An acquaintance of mine just got this review posted at her site from Ditto:

Well, I quite enjoyed your stories until I found out you're one of those mean peeps that delight in being nasty about other peeps stories. What can I say, what gives you lot the right to tear down other peeps and make them feel so bad. Too bad everyone doesn't know the truth about you. I could have given you a nice review for this story but my feedback has become suspect. If I say I like it then other peeps from your own group will start saying you're a bad one. I'm saving you all the meanness no one spared me from, I hope you're happy. :(

Let's count, shall we?
Peeps
Mean people
This twit believes she's so important that she can damage reputations of well-respected writers
Despite her unjust shunning, she's nobly trying to spare one of her tormentors.
She's really enjoying the attention, but I can't tell how stupid she is or not.


"Ginmar what human rapists? Ooooh, you mean Gunn and Riley, that fic? Ginmar...listen to me carefully now.. Gunn and Riley aren't real pet, can you wrap your mind around that? None of these little fantasies are real. It all stemmed from Joss' imagination (what would he think!!!)" She whined that we were being mean to her, as if vampires 'would never commit the atrocity of rape'---like, you know, she was nobly exposing this horrible crime to the world.

Also, Ginmar you keep hinting that me and other peeps have issues 'cos they write NC17 some of which are non-con, but not everybody has issues. I certainly don't. I have never been attacked/raped and if I had been I don't think I'd want to write fics about it, not even with vampires and imaginary characters playing out the roles. I think maybe you're the one with issues, you're the one searching the archives around the Net looking for bad fics and rape fics. Find something better do do, finish your own fics. Leave peeps to theirs. Can I recommend to everybody perusing this to go and read Affinity by Ginmar. It's very good. :) Maybe if you get enough feedback Ginmar, it will inspire you to write more of your own fiction rather than dissing everybody else's the way you do. I especially worry about the younger peeps who may be put off writing by the vitriolic outbursts against them by you and your crewe. We all have to start somewhere and we're not all good with the spelling. Leave them alone for goodness sake. If Rune and Sabre aren't safe from your criticism then there's no hope for the rest of us.

And by the way I DO NOT WRITE ROLEPLAY! I HATE ROLEPLAY. IT'S DISRESPECTFUL (not that I would tell anybody to stop writing it, as it's up to individual peeps, but I for one don't like it and don't write it).

Wonder when this will get wiped? It's been fun. Luv Ditto xxoo

Peeps. xxoooxxx. Luv. Crewe. And she specifically hosted an RPfic with herself---by name---in the story, in an NC-17 story, so her stance here---that she's against it---is bizarre to say the least. Holy shit, what is she? Twelve?"


I have to say, I don't think I ever saw the term "peeps" used THAT many times in ONE paragraph in my entire life, not even by the "teeniest" of teenyboppers.


Edit 2: ginmar also adds:

"Keep in mind, that this is the basic plotline.

This writer belongs to a universe where the central female character is young, powerful, and beloved. The writers take out this young girl and insert some trailor trash forty year old who's a blatant Mary Sue, and they describe her as a fan who got yanked into the show! Oh, and the hot male lead falls for her. Then they grab characters from all sorts of other fandoms, whoever they lust after. There's no longer any resemblance to the original 'verse. And on the side, this writer has written at least eight rapefics that glorify the rape of young, attractrive---and underage---girls. Not only that, but she encourages some very, very scary people who write even more frightening rapefics than she herself does.

I hate to say this, but it needs to be mentioned, too. She's harassing at least one other writer, although I'm the only one that merited a mention by name. She had no reviews for most of her stories; none at all. She's got a story at FF.net that's been there, unreviewed, for at least six months. The person she was harassing besides myself? Is a very good writer, with lots of reviews. I'm not a bad writer myself, but I don't take shit like this lying down, and there's lots of people who think I'm a bitch. Surprisingly enough, they're rapefic writers. Hm.

Oh, and she says that if you have a problem with her rapefics, you're a prude, you need to get laid, you're man and pathetic...and whatever else junior high school kids say, along with 'peeps.'"