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Irony ([info]isntitironic) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-01-12 21:49:00


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The Ron/Hermione Couple Phenomenon: A Sign of the Failure of the American Education System!
I'm posting this for a friend who doesn't have a Journalfen account.

The Ron/Hermione Couple Phenomenon: A Sign of the Failure of the American Education System!

This mess all starts when an H/Hr fan on the “HHShippersAnonymous” egroup who goes by “Cat” announces that she is in a “mood,” which is not usually a good sign. She introduces herself as a teacher, and says that her husband is also a teacher, which she seems to thinks gives her the status of “all-knowing.” Then, she gets to the fun part, and launches into her theory!

One of the things we found was that most reading comprehension tests only "test" for certain types of understanding. Of the hundreds of types of understanding, most schools only test for 12 to 14 types of /surface/ information. Students are not asked to "infer" or come to their own conclusions based on context clues. They are only asked to identify /obvious/ facts. This means that most students (unless they study on their own or read a lot) don't learn how to "read between the lines." Can we all see where I'm going with this? Good, I thought so!

SO! R/Hr shippers identify themselves with "Isn't it Obvious?" while most H/Hr shippers identify themselves with "Read Between the Lines." There are (at least on certain websites) about twice as many R/Hr shippers as H/Hr shippers. So here's my thesis: /*IF*/ H.M.S Pumpkin Pie is the ship that sails, Harry Potter may just prove that there is a large gaping hole in the American Education System.


There you have it! R/Hr, product of a faulty educational system! I'd love to have seen what this would have done on a less civil group.

Viki, who amusingly has an e-mail address which starts with “hogwartzchik” agrees with this, definitely seeing in her experience how H/Hr fans are more intelligent.

JenniferLupin then speaks up and says: “I just wanted to say that I don't think that R/Hrs are R/Hrs because they can't grasp subtle literary clues. I think it's just a difference in opinion.”

Cat, who sees the need to argue every point, objects, and says that this is not a difference of opinion, it’s a difference in personal preference. She also asks JenniferLupin to “enlighten” her.

JenniferLupin warns Cat that an essay won’t change her mind, and gives Cat a link to an (IMHO) badly done essay on SugarQuill. Cat makes a statement before reading the essay: “IF* I were presented with good evidence I would change my mind” and “The only real flaws I would debate would be logical not preferential.” Keep that one in mind.

Cat reads the essay and says: “This was a heartbreakingly accurate example of the type of shoddy thinking I was talking about in the first post of this series. And now I'm seriously depressed.” Oh, nos! She didn’t agree with the R/Hr essay, the educational system still sucks, and now she’s depressed! She ends the e-mail with a comment about kicking a hole in her soap box. As you can see, logic reigns here. Cat continues on to say that JenniferLupin doesn’t know how to debate, and tells her to try “honest introspecting” in Harry Potter and then apply it to the rest of her life.

JenniferLupin responds by saying that there are R/Hr fans in other parts of the world – does that mean their educational systems are failing too? She also says that she wasn’t debating, she was just giving Cat what she wanted, and ‘shipping interpretation is a matter of opinion anyway.

Cat says: “I've said before that I cannot speak for any other system besides America but I can say that our system has been imported and exported to and from several other countries. I will also say this: If a majority of the world were learning to think properly and carefully, would there be so much hate?” She also adds that it isn’t a matter of opinion, and still insists that a shred of logic would change her mind (uh-huh, and pink elephants are prancing around in my basement) and is insulted that JenniferLupin implied that she wouldn’t change her mind. Cat thinks that JenniferLupin is taking everything too personally (who was kicking a hole in her soapbox?) and says that she never said R/Hr fans weren’t as intelligent(?!)

Erika pops in to defend JenniferLupin, which is a hopeless effort, because Cat is always logical and correct – she’s a teacher, remember! She adds that “Logic is, by nature, unemotional.” And “I ruthlessly apply logic to both sides impartially and gleefully. It would only take one or two good, solid pieces of evidence to sway me. But no one has presented these so I remain unconvinced.” She signs her name and says that none of this is a hard concept.

Finally, JenniferLupin suggests that things are getting out of hand ('are getting?') and suggests ending the thread.

Cat leaves a final message:

“First: I expect you to have thoroughly read and /*understood*/ what was originally said. Read it several times and take notes. Print it out and pencil all over it if it's hard to follow. People are commenting back with critiques that make no sense if they have actually read and understood the comment they are arguing against.”

I think they understand you perfectly, Cat. ;)

I have no journalfen account, so I big ‘Thank You!’ to my friend who is posting this.

ETA: This was on a mailing list - no links, I'm afraid!




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[info]telesilla
2005-01-13 06:59 am UTC (link)
*speechlessly points to icon*

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(no subject) - sceach, 2005-01-16 02:16 am UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2005-01-13 07:03 am UTC (link)
A big "WTF!" from over here.

SO! R/Hr shippers identify themselves with "Isn't it Obvious?" while most H/Hr shippers identify themselves with "Read Between the Lines."

And what about us poor slash shippers? Why is there no love for our lack of education*? Is Puppylove spotting the obvious, or can H/D shippers use that as their UST/hatesex excuse?

And um, any links for this bunch of nutbags? Was it on a forum or LJ?

*Well, not mine, since I don't live/wasn't educated in the US of A.

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Oh... - (Anonymous), 2005-01-13 07:09 am UTC
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[info]kyuuketsukirui
2005-01-13 07:03 am UTC (link)
So here's my thesis: /*IF*/ H.M.S Pumpkin Pie is the ship that sails, Harry Potter may just prove that there is a large gaping hole in the American Education System.

Well, obviously the flaw is that the American Education System failed to educate all those durn furrin HP fans!

Cause...ya know...HP isn't like a huge international fandom or anything like that.

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[info]amand_r
2005-01-13 07:08 am UTC (link)
I am a teacher at a private tutoring institution in the US, so I fix the learning problems kids get in normal schools (or from home or wherever). This is the biggest pile of steaming crap I have ever heard and I would like to personally swat this chick with a ruler a few times for saying so.

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(no subject) - [info]the_clansmen, 2005-01-14 07:02 am UTC

[info]nevadafighter
2005-01-13 07:27 am UTC (link)
Dear Cat,

You cannot be impartial and gleeful at the same time about the same subject. Thank you and come again.

P.S. Thank you for confirming the worst stereotypes about education majors and secondary school teachers, i.e. that they are all pompous, condescending windbags in inverse proportion to their actual level of knowledge and wisdom. Good show.

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IT BURNS - [info]luminousmarble, 2005-01-13 10:11 am UTC
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[info]wolfychan
2005-01-13 07:48 am UTC (link)
Gosh, I know someone who writes both pairings. She must be half-educated! I think it's the left half.

Anyway, the whole inverse-Occam's-Razor logic of "people who choose the less obvious pairing are smarter!" is blowin' my poor little mind here. I should write something really non-obvious like Nearly Headless Nick/Hagrid, and I'd be even smarter than her.

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[info]twocorpses
2005-01-13 07:54 am UTC (link)
JenniferLupin then speaks up and says: “I just wanted to say that I don't think that R/Hrs are R/Hrs because they can't grasp subtle literary clues. I think it's just a difference in opinion.”

Cat, who sees the need to argue every point, objects, and says that this is not a difference of opinion, it’s a difference in personal preference. She also asks JenniferLupin to “enlighten” her.


Uh... what's the difference? Isn't a personal preference essentially an opinion? WTF?

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[info]sarajayechan
2005-01-13 08:16 am UTC (link)
...
Okay. No words. Just gonna wave my icon in this person's general direction.

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[info]lasha
2005-01-13 08:16 am UTC (link)
As a teacher myself and a Ron/Draco shipper I have to add my WTF to the thread.

This woman's been sniffing Elmer's glue too long I'd say.

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(no subject) - [info]firebird5, 2005-01-17 12:58 pm UTC

[info]ningengirai
2005-01-13 08:16 am UTC (link)
If a majority of the world were learning to think properly and carefully, would there be so much hate?

Yes. We'd just come up with better, more efficient ways to kill one another. We'd also never get caught.

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[info]kalika_maxwell
2005-01-13 08:25 am UTC (link)
What? O-o

Really, if they can read through the whole Harry Potter series and then start writing (decently) about it, I'd say their education wasn't too bad.

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[info]ladyrogue
2005-01-13 08:25 am UTC (link)
Here's another thought. Maybe people shouldn't take their ships so seriously! WOW!

So here's my thesis: /*IF*/ H.M.S Pumpkin Pie is the ship that sails, Harry Potter may just prove that there is a large gaping hole in the American Education System.

Yeah well, I'm an English major and a H/D shipper, so this wanker can just suck it!

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[info]kicklecubicle
2005-01-13 08:41 am UTC (link)
I wonder...It's frightening...*ahem*

If you took a group of people who have never read the HP books and are totally uneducated about HP, and gave them a short primer on them- we're talking maxi-brief here, extremely general, a basic overview of the characters, including bits of the films and other assorted media- then asked them who they think Harry's girlfriend was/should be...

Do you think they'd guess Hermione? In general media, there's always that classic triptych of "Hero, Hero's woman and gooseberry comic relief"...and since the HP-uneducated audience is presented with a trio, they might expect this popular convention. Since the book is not called "Ron Weasley and the (insert adventure)", they'd naturally assume Harry is the hero, making Hermione the Hero's woman and Ron the...er...gooseberry (sorry, I don't really think sweet little Ron is a gooseberry, just go with it).

You only get the Ron/Hermione hints from detailed parts in the book. Of course, nobody is flat out paired up in the actual books, so one can still make the argument that there are Harry/Hermione hints in there too.

Anyway, I'm only speculating- trying to present a different look on the subject.

IMO when it comes to pairings, you like/read/write what you like. If someone doesn't think that Filch/Prefect's Bathroom is the awesomeist pairing ever in HP, they just won't like my fanfiction. 'nuff said.

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[info]gal_montag
2005-01-13 09:13 am UTC (link)
Er, WTF? So by her logic H/Hr shippers are teh smrt because they read between the lines? Because I tend to go with the whole read and understand the lines on the fucking page before you start trying to extrapolate what's between them.

And this woman is a *teacher*? The hole is our educational system is *her* and her use of whateverthefuck logic that is to argue in favor of a Harry Potter 'ship.

Jesus tapdancing.

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(no subject) - [info]theredwepainted, 2005-01-13 10:37 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]the_clansmen, 2005-01-14 07:52 am UTC
Mmm-hmm.
[info]etherealzoe
2005-01-13 09:35 am UTC (link)
Maybe the U.S. educational system would be better served by teachers who don't attempt to teach their students based on theories of "who's gettin' it on" in books. Symbolism? Parallelism? Allegory? So last century apparently.

If the whole R/Hr thing spells doom for America, I wonder what she would think of those of us who pledge allegiance to flag of the United States of Mrs. Lestrange and Lord Voldemort getting some on the side?

OMGtheirloveissoobviouslysubtextualbutonlytoasmallsubsectionoftheillogicalilliteratenon-introspectiveand whollydegeneratepopulationthatdepressesmethoroughly!

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[info]squeakytoy
2005-01-13 09:51 am UTC (link)
Ah, the American Education System...is there anything they can't be held responsible for?

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(Anonymous)
2005-01-13 10:38 am UTC (link)
*facepalm*
just when i though i was done with the desire to stab people! i was doing so well until now.

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[info]prettyveela
2005-01-13 10:42 am UTC (link)
I'm always highly amused when the H/hr's take on the "Read between the lines" quote, since JK is only talking about the R/Hr pairing. Ah bless em.

Also I have a question:

/*IF*/ H.M.S Pumpkin Pie is the ship that sails, Harry Potter may just prove that there is a large gaping hole in the American Education System.

Are you sure she didn't mean to say "Good Ship"? Cause that's the R/Hr ship, the H/Hr's are the PP and you said she's a H/Hr shipper.

Not that I mind the quote how it is, I agree it! XD

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(Anonymous)
2005-01-13 11:15 am UTC (link)
I've read the first four books all at least four times each and I've never sensed the slightest hint of H/Hr in any romantic capacity. Does that mean I'm stupid?

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(no subject) - [info]bunny, 2005-01-13 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - mbutterflye, 2005-01-13 11:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-14 02:33 am UTC

[info]renata_hpjc
2005-01-13 01:33 pm UTC (link)
"I will also say this: If a majority of the world were learning to think properly and carefully, would there be so much hate?”

So my ship promotes world peace? Far out, man.

PS: Get off my damn side; you're making it look stupid elitist silly like a bunch of pompous windbags stupid.

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[info]palabradot
2005-01-13 01:49 pm UTC (link)
*checks FW first thing in the morning*

*takes sip of her coffee while reading wank*

*calls out the intarweb lawyers against FW for ruining her screen with coffee splatters*

*makes note to send this one to her teacher mother*

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[info]rawles
2005-01-13 02:07 pm UTC (link)
Dear Cat,

If you would be so kind, please get off of my fucking ship, you fucking idiot.

It's bad enough that half of the time I can't mind my business in my own corner of the fandom, not bothering anyone, without people trying to "enlighten" me about how it will never happen.

I certainly don't need morons like you making sweeping and extremely stupid statements about the whole of another ship so that people can think that we are even crazier than they already do.

The only thing that proves the failure of the American educational system is the fact that someone as phenomenally witless as you is a teacher. I would thank you kindly not to speak on this subject again until you can say something intelligent that does not cause people on your side to shrink away in disgrace and embarassment.

Kthnxdie.

Your Fellow H/Hr Shipper,

Rawles

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[info]strange_autumn
2005-01-13 02:24 pm UTC (link)
So if J. K. Rowling writes Ron/Hermione, she's a product of the American education system too?

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(no subject) - dodyskin, 2005-01-13 02:49 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2005-01-13 09:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-13 10:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-01-14 03:00 am UTC
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[info]ashenmote
2005-01-13 02:24 pm UTC (link)
If anybody would have claimed yesterday that I was going to see a new, fresh and fancy shipping argument today, I would have laughed them from the internet.

I love it. Very much so. In spite of batshit insanity and rivalship-backstabbing, because that just comes with the territory.

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