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buttercat ([info]buttercat) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-01-23 15:17:00


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Current mood:Snoopy-Dancing
Entry tags:buttercat loves posting anon, karthur strikes again!

Vanity press review Sesslerwank, get it while it's wet!
Small wank, but cute. A few more pulls and it should spurt, but it's bound to be just a little spurt. You know the kind.

Following a link on GAFF that said "English teacher vs. badfic" led to Adele Sessler's Meadowhaven. It seems that Adele Sessler has gone the vanity press route with her fanfiction turned, uhm, fiction that isn't fanfiction.

Now, it all starts on this page of the meadowhaven bulletin boards. As stated by Wraxany on GAFF, Adele's fans are eating the book up and lavishing on the praise. Until one youngster says "My literature teacher made me an assignment of it... I shouldn't have been reading it during class. He came up to me as I was reading it (I thought he would have been happy to see me reading something) and marked on the page I was on with a red pen an error I simply overlooked. Now I have to read your wonderful book and mark every little grammatical error I find along the way.

Anyone who knows of Adele knows that this isn't going to go over well. But I, for one, was truly surprised when she broke out the old Not fair! Some of those mistakes were on purpose!

Uh-HUH. (This also ends up on the GAFF thread about Adele, which I already linked, and is worth looking over for a few sploogey comments and for a random line from Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead. A few good points there about Adele in general and some retrowank about her past "All Japanese look alike" comment, her deletion of threads she doesn't like, and her alleged penchant for little boys.)

But back to Meadowhaven, where a new poster posts a link to the book's Amazon page, asking everyone on the board to go and kiss the writer's ass so maybe she'll draw you some art someday give good reviews, and this is where it really starts to happen.

People do not give exclusively good reviews. I sense a war of vendettas on the Amazon page, which is a veritable orgy of wank, (IT SUCKS! IT RULES! IT SUCKS! IT RULES!) and one reviewer even points this out in her review. Adele, of course, catches wind of this, and really starts to yank on it.

People who give bad reviews are out to get me. Please go and counter the bad reviews.

They dun even own the book! (A few extra tissues to Adele for her use of "dun").

See, this kid on the internet looked over the entire book and didn't find many mistakes, so ha! (Because you know, any kid on the internet is worth ten professional editors.)

And finally, FINALLY we get Internet stalker!wank. the bad reviewers are actually stalkers. I don't know why they hate me so! I'm not going to read negative reviews. I'm going to keep writing, so nyeh. (Yes, she actually does say nyeh."

I'm sure it will go on from there, but probably not too much. Probably Adele or the mods will wipe up the stickiness and no one will ever know it was there unless the had a blacklight.

For what it's worth, I haven't read the book myself, but the wank is pretty cute.




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[info]lurker32
2005-01-23 10:38 pm UTC (link)
On the other hand, Adele is famous for demanding that no one make or keep any copies of her stories. (She even demurred when a fan whose eyes hurt from reading the screen asked for permission to print Adele's stories out.)

AHAHAHAHA Adele is sekritly whatsherface from Stargate!

Too cute.

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[info]seppuku
2005-01-23 10:56 pm UTC (link)
.....he marked IN the book? With a pen!

Has this girl never taken a lit class or something? Jesus Christ on a book-marking pogo-stick.

To tell the truth, I found more errors in a few of the translated editions of "The Idiot" by Dostoevsky within 400 pages

Then your translation sucks.

So if Rover's Cripple do not sell as well as we expect it's [e-book publishing] maybe an good alternativ for Saberodan.

Maybe it didn't sell well because it was published by a vanity press and the characters are all one dimensional rehashing of the worst of mass market fantasy?

Some of the reviews are just plain stupid! "Couldn't get past the first two paragraphs." LOL Who spends $20 on a book and reads the first two paragraphs and tosses it out as trash, then hurries over to Amazon to tell everyone "Horrid book, don't buy it! I read the first two paragraphs!" That is absolute crud.

Yeah, really. Why would you buy it when you can read the first chapter on her website, read the first to paragraphs, and realize that it's absolute crud?

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[info]wankprophet
2005-01-23 11:12 pm UTC (link)
It's at times like this that I just want to say: There are no bad books, only horrible writers.

Thank you.

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(Anonymous)
2005-01-23 11:53 pm UTC (link)

Even if Adele is the wankiest thing to come down the pike (she isn't, Turimel has her beat by miles), and even if she writes for shit (it's not great literature, but it's a long way from eye-sporking), she is a damn good artist.

If anyone here thinks they can do better, link it! XD

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(no subject) - [info]coyote, 2005-01-24 01:27 am UTC
underdressed little boys? Bleh - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 02:14 am UTC
Re: underdressed little boys? Bleh - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-01-24 03:06 am UTC
Re: underdressed little boys? Bleh - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 03:26 am UTC
Re: underdressed little boys? Bleh - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2005-01-24 07:15 am UTC
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Re: underdressed little boys? Bleh - layne, 2005-01-25 02:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarracenia, 2005-01-24 03:05 am UTC
One and the same. - [info]buttercat, 2005-01-24 04:47 am UTC
Re: One and the same. - [info]sarracenia, 2005-01-24 05:00 am UTC
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[info]rogue
2005-01-24 12:23 am UTC (link)
Holy crap. Someone needs to tell this lady that acting like Anne Rice before she gets published isn't going to make her successful! You have to wait until AFTER you finish your painfully long book series draws to a close before you start yelling at people on Amazon.

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(no subject) - [info]altoidsaddict, 2005-01-24 12:40 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-01-24 04:10 am UTC

[info]anon_3point5
2005-01-24 12:24 am UTC (link)
Tut. I leave for a few months and the anon population explodes.

I see I should make a few extra pots of tea.

Anon 3.5

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(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2005-01-24 01:26 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 02:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 07:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 04:22 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2005-01-25 05:58 am UTC

[info]selene_avis
2005-01-24 12:39 am UTC (link)
Um...my finished writings don't generally have errors. I have a very talented beta-reader, and she edits one chapter at a time. I also do edit, and depending on the story, I may have additional beta-readers as well. Yes, it is difficult. And no, no one is perfect. But no story should have so many errors that you can make a game out of correcting them.

I'm not reading the book reviews anymore, it's too easy to fall into a slump that way. I'm going to write, and print if Mh support is enough, and if not, E-books are an option. But I'm still writing. Nyeh..

I'd sick Beta-reader-sama on her, but Beta-reader-sama is busy looking over a chapter of my fan fiction. 'Sides, I owe her a vacation for all the writing I've sent her recently. 'Twouldn't be fair to have her have to deal with "authors" like this.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 10:11 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 10:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]selene_avis, 2005-01-30 08:55 pm UTC
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[info]gorogoro
2005-01-24 12:58 am UTC (link)
Wow, the mousies are trolling quite effectively today!

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(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-01-24 01:09 am UTC
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[info]rowsdower
2005-01-24 03:20 am UTC (link)
Does it make me a tremendous dork if my first thought upon reading the word "Sesslerwank" was "Well, he hosts a video game review show. Double wankwhammy. It had to happen eventually."

Anyway, as to the actual wank. Wow, what a crazy and talentless shrew. I hate authors/artists who think they can do no wrong and only belch sunshine and fart hearts.

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(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-01-24 04:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rowsdower, 2005-01-24 04:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-01-24 05:09 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-01-24 04:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]25th_of_april, 2005-01-24 04:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miharu, 2005-01-24 08:00 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-01-24 03:27 am UTC (link)
Ohh, I ran across some of her art work on Deviant Art a few days ago. I remember because I was just thinking that it looked pretty good (and very slashy, always a bonus), then read that she'd written the stories to go along with it. I was just wondering if it might be worth a read, when I came across this
http://www.deviantart.com/view/11607613/ (http://www.deviantart.com/view/11607613/)
I wasn't sure as I was reading it weather to find it funny or mildly insulting to slash fans (At the time I think I settled on both. It's funny and somewhat true, but she seems to be rather against slash fans). Then I found out that she'd also made an entry in her FAQ about slash, that set my alarm bells off. From that and the comments (http://comments.deviantart.com/1/11607613/83659629) by her fan patrol it seems that any one who so much as thinks a slashy thought is anti-Adele (http://comments.deviantart.com/1/11607613/83069896) and a bad (http://comments.deviantart.com/1/11607613/83638660), bad (http://comments.deviantart.com/1/11607613/83151287) person.

I legged it out of there at about that point. When will people learn that slash is a compliment. Sigh...

- Enigma O

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(no subject) - [info]seppuku, 2005-01-24 04:01 am UTC
oh hell - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-01-24 06:07 am UTC
Re: oh hell - [info]panthea, 2005-01-24 06:15 am UTC
Re: oh hell - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-01-24 07:59 am UTC
Re: oh hell - [info]bubosquared, 2005-01-24 10:31 am UTC
... - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-01-24 04:32 pm UTC
... - [info]mael, 2005-01-24 11:27 pm UTC
Re: oh hell - [info]andsoyoudied, 2005-01-24 10:48 am UTC
Re: oh hell - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 10:54 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 02:15 pm UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2005-01-24 03:51 am UTC (link)
Hahahah!! I so love it when the wank comes to us.

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(no subject) - [info]tekenduis, 2005-01-24 04:02 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-01-24 05:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tekenduis, 2005-01-24 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-01-24 06:21 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-01-24 06:08 am UTC (link)
I think this thread has wanked itself....complete with flamewars.

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[info]c_chan
2005-01-24 07:42 am UTC (link)
Just what I needed. Late night entertainement.

*goes to read the anon threads*

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[info]xero_sky
2005-01-24 09:07 am UTC (link)
Her writing and her omg!published book aren't particularly interesting, but her bad case of martyrdom is a riot.

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The Wank Thus Far: a recap
[info]wankprophet
2005-01-24 09:24 am UTC (link)
Been a while since I did a recap. So...

The Wank Thus Far:

Adele Sessler decides to self-publish, but not, apparently, self-edit or self-proofread. Boring. Let's get on to the fun stuff.

Seppeku decides to make a few pointed observations. Seris -- we all remember seris, right? -- decides not to bother with fluffers and comes out spurting. He observes it's her 1st book and therefore we should not kill her for trying, implying that it would be perfectly okay to kill her for trying if it was her 2nd or 3rd. While I didn't follow the logic, I did find it interesting that he inexplicably decided the central issue in the wank was murder. Or, perhaps, manslaughter. That would be for a court to decide, however. (Later, Shoi will point out that F_W is not a courtroom, thus bringing it to a full circle.)

Seris decries people who think their opinions matter, failing to see the irony in much the same way that a pigeon might fail to see a jet engine right before it gets sucked into it. He also decides that critics are "interfags," which I'm just gonna assume is British slang for passing a cigarette around. In light of this word, Shoi gets annoyed that we're not the offensive ones anymore, a thought which fills me with profound sadness. To correct this, I will now coin a new term for seris: "homocunting frogass." There, the balance is restored. Seris then admits he hates the majority of fandom_wank members, which makes pyratejenni sleepy. She suggests seris does something with hobbyhorses, something I won't speculate on except to say he really, really needs human contact. Seris then proceeds to lie his sore hobby-horsed ass off by claiming the previous anon comment wasn't him. This mod glanced at the IPs and realized that seris' little sister/supernanny/apeboy gimp must have used seris' computer to frame seris while he was off riding the wild pinto, so to speak. Ladybirdsleeps wakes up long enough to link to another comment she made to another anon, proving once and for all that anons are like interchangeable body parts on a Starfish Barbie. Seris replies so quickly that one is afraid he ruptured something.

diane_duane is brought up, a name I vaguely recognize as being a published author and f_w member. Adele's non-seris defender gets offended because diane_duane hasn't bothered mocking this particular time aroundAnother anon calls jealousy. Shoi calls bitterness and hate. Anon calls lack of objectivity. As noted above, Shoi observes the obvious and says this isn't a courtroom. I am tempted to cry "Oyez, oyez" but worry that seris might think I was mocking Jews...though gays, women and "fatties" are fair game, surely he must have his limits somewhere. Right? Right...? (link courtesy of ashenmote...that post was wanked before, for those who care to track it down.)

bubosquared gets her wank on. Panthea express gay love for buboXbubo. BuboXbubo flashes her cleavage, but inexplicably fails to use the icon of her glittery tits. daoine_sidhe shares her preschool endeavors. Panthea expresses hero-worship. Panthea's kinda a slut, apparently. Bubosquared pinches smo, presumably to bring out the colour in her cheeks. Cleolinda is a self-admitted "weird case," which leads to bubosquared swearing never to commit to anything in any form. This recapper predicts bubosquared will hithertofore have a really tough life, and it'll be all cleolinda's fault.

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Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap Part Deux - [info]wankprophet, 2005-01-24 09:26 am UTC
GIP! - [info]ashenmote, 2005-01-24 11:09 am UTC
Re: GIP! - [info]wankprophet, 2005-01-24 06:26 pm UTC
Re: GIP! - [info]ashenmote, 2005-01-24 06:41 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap Part Deux - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2005-01-24 01:54 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap Part Deux - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-01-24 04:40 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap Part Deux - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 12:27 am UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap Part Deux - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 12:26 am UTC
Screaming like a bobby-soxer - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-01-24 04:39 pm UTC
Re: Screaming like a bobby-soxer - [info]mrbimble, 2005-01-24 07:09 pm UTC
Re: Screaming like a bobby-soxer - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-01-24 11:41 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap Part Deux - [info]shoiryu, 2005-01-24 06:04 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap Part Deux - [info]mariagoner, 2005-01-25 06:06 am UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]bubosquared, 2005-01-24 10:25 am UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]cleolinda, 2005-01-24 06:22 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]bubosquared, 2005-01-25 12:11 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]bubosquared, 2005-01-24 10:28 am UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]rachelmap, 2005-01-24 12:49 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]mouseybrown, 2005-01-24 09:02 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2005-01-24 10:29 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]phosfate, 2005-01-24 09:51 pm UTC
Re: The Wank Thus Far: a recap - [info]snacky, 2005-01-24 10:01 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-01-24 09:57 am UTC (link)
I had no view on Adele before this thread. But Jesus, her fangirls mean she's engraved on my memory now as an Ultimate Splooge Source.

Why are the batshit defenders incapable of grasping that they're doing their idol no favours?

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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-01-24 11:29 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 11:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-01-24 12:41 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-01-24 10:14 am UTC (link)
...


NAZI!

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 10:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-01-24 11:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]innsmouth_eyes, 2005-01-24 11:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2005-01-25 06:08 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-01-24 12:59 pm UTC (link)
Since when is being published by a vanity press considered going professional?

When you make money on it. Like it or not, if she makes a profit (book sales minus cost of publishing, etc), she's a pro. It doesn't matter if this offends 468,327 shitty fanfic writers on the net who are "OMG! Halfway through my first novel draft! I can't WAIT to get the slush pile!"

Money talks. As far as I'm concerned, Adele can wank all the way to the bank.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 01:08 pm UTC
good luck - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 02:14 pm UTC
Re: good luck - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 02:29 pm UTC
frothing! - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 02:48 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-01-24 06:11 pm UTC (link)
Lordalmighty, the Adelites are making Adele look worse and worse on Amazon.

Adelite: this book was great i loved it so much so what if it's got grammatical errors?

Anti-Adelite: *well-written discussion of how stereotyped the characters are*

Adelite: it was the best thing i ever read every book has grammatical errors!

Anti-Adelite: *literate discussion of the derivative plot*

Adelite: i loved it it was fab the grammatical errors are going to be fixed! Schindler's List was derivative too!

...Guys. Guys! Very few people are complaining about the grammatical errors! Adele's grammar is NOT what's turning people off. Adele's plot and characters are turning people off. If you're gonna wank in Amazon comments, at least aim right, k?

Wank out,

Wraxany

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(Anonymous)
2005-01-24 07:26 pm UTC (link)
She probably did the best she could in trying to edit it herself and yes there would be overlooked errors. The point is it took a lot of guts to at least try to get some work out there and you can't please everyone but there are some out there who would think that she did the best she could. I mean come on? Unoriginal? How many other stories have been based off of stories? Star wars was inspired from the Odessy, Shindler's List based from the Hallocaust.

That review is beyond parody.

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[info]psychofangirl
2005-01-24 07:34 pm UTC (link)
I read about one paragraph of her book and then skimmed the rest. I can only say that she's a much better artist then she is a writer. Maybe she should stick with art.

Oh, and I highly doubt she would make that much money off of vanity press work. Yea, sure trying to get published is tough as hell, but it's better than having to shell out $ to GET published. In the words of Holly Lisle, "WRITERS GET PAID TO WRITE".

This is important to remember. Besides, I think of people like Stephen Donaldson. The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant was rejected by every single publisher in North America before it ended up being best seller. Just don't lose hope and you'll be okay.

Easier said than done, still...I'd rather wallpaper my house with rejection slips then spend a dime going the vanity way.

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(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2005-01-24 07:40 pm UTC
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Exactly. - (Anonymous), 2005-01-24 11:15 pm UTC
Re: Exactly. - [info]psychofangirl, 2005-01-24 11:32 pm UTC
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Did you mean "Eragon" - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 08:48 am UTC
Re: Did you mean "Eragon" - [info]platedlizard, 2005-01-25 08:55 am UTC
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[info]dwarfjen
2005-01-24 11:43 pm UTC (link)
Cost of publishing with Authorhouse:

Standard paperback publishing: $698.
Copyright Registration: $150.

That's probably the minimum you'd spend. (More if she paid for a 'custom back cover', or copyediting, or promo materials, or anything like that) It's impossible to work out the actual royalties she's getting as they use some complex method of working it out depending on what percentage royalty the author chooses (presumably they just up the price so that at whatever percentage point chosen, they make the same amount off each book).

Breakeven point could be anywhere between about 200 and 500 copies. Statistics fun... Now, the question is, does she have that many loyal fans willing to shell out for it?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 04:43 am UTC

[info]pradaloz
2005-01-25 04:02 am UTC (link)
He came up to me as I was reading it (I thought he would have been happy to see me reading something) and marked on the page I was on with a red pen an error I simply overlooked. Now I have to read your wonderful book and mark every little grammatical error I find along the way.

*fucking DIES*

I don't know what this kid is so upset about--haven't people been complaining that English teachers don't emphasize grammar enough these days?

(And yes, I did know Adele for a while back when we were both writing Zelda fanfic. Much as I would like my own little radioactive fangirl army of the night, I can't say I've ever been jealous of her writing, er, talent. Then again, I can't really be jealous of her fangirl army--it's not like it's a crack fighting force capable of destroying downtown Tokyo or anything. If they could do that, and possibly shoot laser beams from their eyes, you can believe I'd be jealous. 'Cause, dude, that would totally rule.)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-29 08:32 pm UTC
AmazonWank ahoy! Lick those "Report" buttons!
(Anonymous)
2005-01-26 02:11 am UTC (link)
Adele's followers are het up about the bad reviews Adele's been getting at Amazon. One says:

It isn't helpful criticism or an honest review if they "hate" the author and have always "hated" all of the author's work, and especially if they haven't read the book! Real reviewers take the time to actually READ THE BOOK *gasp* and point out actual problems. All those idiots do is bother people who are trying to get an honest review of the strong and weak points in your writing.

In short, if you don't like the writing, shut up. Corollary: If you don't like the book, obviously you didn't read it.

Another person says:

I was appauled and sooo angry when I read through the negative comments about Adele's book at Amazon.

Like what other people have said, they don't give any real reason why the actually hate it, or show that they have actually read it.

I read through each negative comment and reported it. 99.9% of those honostly are for no reason. It's uncalled for. It's pissing me off. I hope others will do the same in reporting them (licking the Report button next to "if this comment was helpful to you" etc.) I'm not sure how much of a difference that will make, but I know it has to make some difference. So lets all pull together for Adele here!


Deleting those reviews will get rid of the nasty stalkers! It won't pour gasoline on the fire, no indeedy!

I'm a little puzzled about the "don't give any real reason why the actually hate it" comment. Perhaps the litany of "it's cliched, the characters are flat, and the plot is trite" has gotten so loud that it's numbed their poor ears right out of their pointy little heads?

In any case, good times ahead.

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Re: AmazonWank ahoy! Lick those "Report" buttons! - (Anonymous), 2005-01-26 03:41 am UTC
Re: AmazonWank ahoy! Lick those "Report" buttons! - (Anonymous), 2005-01-26 04:48 am UTC
More Sessler Wank?
(Anonymous)
2005-01-29 08:04 pm UTC (link)
Does she have a history here? Some kind soul provide a link, if possible.

kthnx.

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Re: More Sessler Wank? - (Anonymous), 2005-01-29 10:36 pm UTC



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