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Amberina (missambs) wrote in fandom_wank,
@ 2005-01-25 02:50:00

Current mood:

Spiffy

Oh noes!1! You insulted my favourite movie! I keel you now!1!
Okay. So. Kben makes a post about "classic" movies, in which she states: I’ve come to the conclusion that Citizen Kane is boring, Apocalypse Now is too damn long (and this was BEFORE the redux), and The Godfather is the most pretentious answer to “What’s your favorite movie?” I’ve ever heard.

And that is where our drama begins. There are numerous comments from various people, some politely disagreeing with her, others downright angry. Later on, Kben attempts to explain herself.

Lots of drama and big words thrown about. All-around, it's a wank that's fun for the whole family, though a bit small.

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miss_kitten
2005-01-25 10:21 am UTC (link)

In an Ann Coulter-ish way, you are saying people that cite the Godfather or Citizen Kane are obviously full of shit.

Is there a law regarding the mention of Ann Coulter? There should be, because somebody just lost the argument.

As a former film student and lifelong film fan, I respectfully disagree and think you might have misspoke. As someone who hopes to make their trade in words, you need to watch how you use them. Pretentious is the complete wrong word for your complaint. Pretentious has to connotation of elitist.

Semantics arguments on pretension from the mouth of a pretentious person...There is no wank like film student wank.

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	kben 2005-01-25 11:10 am UTC (link)
	There is no wank like film student wank. So true. Really, it's making me feel 19 again. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	teratologist 2005-01-25 02:24 pm UTC (link)
	I don't know if she deserves a law all her own - putting Ann on the level of the Nazis, or even the mean girls in high school, is almost like giving her too much credit. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	deadlettero 2005-01-25 10:45 am UTC (link)
	I would rather stab myself in the face than watch Tommy Boy again. However, I would rather watch Anchorman than The Godfather. Oooooh, maybe I'm not a pretentious fuck then! (Except I really, really am.) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	phosfate 2005-01-25 05:08 pm UTC (link)
	I would, too. Mainly because I haven't had to sit through Anchorman a bazillion times. Or at all. On the other hand, I'd rather watch Citizen Kane than either of 'em. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ladydisdain, 2005-01-25 10:36 pm UTC

phosfate, 2005-01-25 10:51 pm UTC

hurricane, 2005-01-25 11:01 pm UTC

phosfate, 2005-01-25 11:07 pm UTC

pfeffermuse, 2005-01-26 02:02 am UTC

dine, 2005-01-27 09:12 pm UTC

	blackjackrocket 2005-01-25 11:01 am UTC (link)
	I was with her up until she tried to claim that Italians are associated with the Mafia BECAUSE OF The Godfather. Because yeah, hundreds of years of history dating back to the struggle for papal power are nothing compared to one movie. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mistressrenet 2005-01-25 01:08 pm UTC (link)
	She did not. ::runs off to read wank:: (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mistressrenet 2005-01-25 01:15 pm UTC (link)
	That wasn't the OP. The OP I didn't always agree with, and I think she could've phrased her argument better, but she didn't say anything that dumb. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	cleolinda 2005-01-25 11:03 am UTC (link)
	Is it wrong that I really, really like Citizen Kane because I have a retrocrush on Joseph Cotten? (Also, I don't really know that you could call the movie "boring." Young Orson Welles is kinda sassy.) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kben 2005-01-25 11:08 am UTC (link)
	Well, now that you bring up Sassy!Orson... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kraken_sleeps 2005-01-25 02:16 pm UTC (link)
	Citizen Kane fucking rocked my socks. (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2005-01-25 04:09 pm UTC (link)

Young and argumentative Kane is charismatic and pretty :D

I have a love/hate relationship with this film. It's all right, and I could grow to adore it in time, but I had to study it obsessively for two months because of fabula and syuzhet and other silly things like that, and even though the story's told laregly in flashback it hardly makes the film the pinnacle of achievement with the whole idea of anti-narrative.

I also hate it because it's so cosntatntly labelled the best film ever. Which it isn't, because although it did many things that were groundbreaking and significant at the time, to a modern audience it's ideas and techniques are commonplace so it doesn't strike us as anything special. And the same goes for Birth Of A Nation.

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	phosfate 2005-01-25 05:11 pm UTC (link)
	Citizen Kane is fucking awesome. Plus, Trekkie bonus: old!puffy!Kane looks like old!puffy!Riker from the very last Next Gen episode. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

llama_treats, 2005-01-25 05:24 pm UTC

	jaseroque 2005-01-25 09:37 pm UTC (link)
	May I ask what a retrocrush is? I fear I may have one. Or six. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

cleolinda, 2005-01-25 09:49 pm UTC

jaseroque, 2005-01-25 10:03 pm UTC

(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 10:43 pm UTC

pfeffermuse, 2005-01-26 02:07 am UTC

cleolinda, 2005-01-26 02:08 am UTC

tyllisium, 2005-01-26 03:07 am UTC

	ashenmote 2005-01-25 11:31 am UTC (link)
	oblique_ref:I'm fucking sick of the relentless dumbing down of american culture hiding behind the weak veneeer of "fun". there's a reason we're going to be a fallen empire in 20 years. And if it really is watching 'Van Helsing' I will be over here shouting "And it was worth it, dumbass!". Plus, without fallen empires there would be no movies like 'the godfather'. (Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 12:14 pm UTC

(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 10:14 pm UTC

ashenmote, 2005-01-26 01:43 am UTC

	gal_montag 2005-01-25 11:34 am UTC (link)
	My indy video clerk self went and splooged all over the place. I deal with pretentious asshats every day. Don't dis my A-Team Kurosawa-boy, for I am like a ninja of video vengeance and I shall destroy you with my DVD shrapnel. (Reply to this)(Thread)

jaseroque, 2005-01-25 09:35 pm UTC

gal_montag, 2005-01-25 10:09 pm UTC

We now interrupt your regularly scheduled mocking
(Anonymous)
2005-01-25 11:59 am UTC (link)

Two-for-one wank: Over in the Daily Show comm on LiveJournal, someone posts about a Fox News Weatherman with Tourettes. Not only does wank break out over laughing at someone's very serious disability, but a second wank over Lord of the Rings: Book v Movie smackdown! breaks out as well.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/thedailyshow/621678.html

Would create an account to report, but it seems that's been turned off. So this is arekuru on LJ, if anyone cares.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled mocking.

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Re: We now interrupt your regularly scheduled mocking -

kraken_sleeps, 2005-01-25 02:20 pm UTC

Re: We now interrupt your regularly scheduled mocking -

phosfate, 2005-01-25 05:13 pm UTC

Re: We now interrupt your regularly scheduled mocking -

lurker32, 2005-01-25 08:21 pm UTC

Re: We now interrupt your regularly scheduled mocking -

bubosquared, 2005-01-25 11:51 pm UTC

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phosfate, 2005-01-25 11:55 pm UTC

Re: We now interrupt your regularly scheduled mocking -

bubosquared, 2005-01-26 12:01 am UTC

	(Anonymous) 2005-01-25 02:18 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, good god, the "Hollywood films suck because they're Hollywood films" argument. So many times. This is why I preferred TV Studies. Much less to be pretentious and exclusive about. (Reply to this)(Thread)

ladydisdain, 2005-01-25 10:39 pm UTC

	llama_treats 2005-01-25 02:30 pm UTC (link)
	The Godfather wasn't a comedy? Oops. (Reply to this)(Thread)

mouseybrown, 2005-01-25 02:35 pm UTC

phosfate, 2005-01-25 05:14 pm UTC

mouseybrown, 2005-01-25 07:12 pm UTC

mariagoner, 2005-01-25 08:24 pm UTC

mouseybrown, 2005-01-25 09:30 pm UTC

	sillymirror 2005-01-25 03:07 pm UTC (link)
	Am I the only one who got nightmares from The Godfather? Aliens just gave me a childhood-crush on xenomorphs, but that movie scared the shit out of me. (Reply to this)(Thread)

smo, 2005-01-25 05:14 pm UTC

(no subject) - layne, 2005-01-26 01:46 am UTC

khym_chanur, 2005-01-26 04:14 am UTC

	kijikun 2005-01-25 04:39 pm UTC (link)
	I adore Cizten Kane , I don't know why but I love it. The Godfather bored me, I'd much rather watch Oscar. (Reply to this)(Thread)

madelfdisease, 2005-01-26 12:22 am UTC

	smo 2005-01-25 05:13 pm UTC (link)
	The Godfather is the most pretentious answer to “What’s your favorite movie?” I’ve ever heard. No, that's Citizen Kane. [/movie buff wank] (Reply to this)(Thread)

phosfate, 2005-01-25 05:17 pm UTC

smo, 2005-01-25 05:36 pm UTC

phosfate, 2005-01-25 05:44 pm UTC

smo, 2005-01-25 05:46 pm UTC

deoridhe, 2005-01-25 09:00 pm UTC

smo, 2005-01-26 01:50 am UTC

cairea, 2005-01-25 10:13 pm UTC

smo, 2005-01-26 01:49 am UTC

cairea, 2005-01-26 02:11 am UTC

pragmatic, 2005-01-25 06:32 pm UTC

smo, 2005-01-25 06:47 pm UTC

deoridhe, 2005-01-25 09:01 pm UTC

smo, 2005-01-26 01:53 am UTC

Worse still - (Anonymous), 2005-01-25 10:33 pm UTC

Re: Worse still -

pragmatic, 2005-01-26 07:20 am UTC

bakunina, 2005-01-26 12:45 am UTC

valarltd, 2005-01-29 08:28 am UTC

nolifeking
2005-01-25 07:02 pm UTC (link)

Those who want to be pretentious would immediately call out Das Boot or a Fellini...

Wha-whu? But but... Das Boot... so good. And I haven't even seen most of the classic classics they talk about. Hey, so do you still look pretentious listing foreign movie favourites if you are foreign? ;)

I do like the idea of anyone listing "the Battleship Potemkin" as their all-time favourite, mind. Very snappy film, that one...

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	::curious:: cheshireempress 2005-01-26 02:11 am UTC (link)
	So has theflickyoucrew been invoked yet? (Reply to this)

	adora_spintriae 2005-01-26 02:28 am UTC (link)
	I’ve come to the conclusion that Citizen Kane is boring, Apocalypse Now is too damn long (and this was BEFORE the redux), and The Godfather is the most pretentious answer to “What’s your favorite movie?” I’ve ever heard. And how long did it take you to come to this epiphany, Ms Fucking Genius? If you ever dare to mock "Anaconda", I keel you! Gold. (Reply to this)(Thread)

kben, 2005-01-26 03:40 am UTC

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