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Tyraa Rane ([info]tyraarane_) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-01-30 12:56:00


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Sam & Max, Freelance...Wankers?
First, a little backstory: A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, LucasArts made a game called Sam & Max Hit The Road, and it was good. And then there was to be a sequel, Sam & Max: Freelance Police, and it was also good. But then LucasArts woke up on the wrong side of the bed and cancelled Freelance Police, and it was not good. Rioting in the forums and the streets occurred, petitions were signed, etc. But things slowly settled down...until along came Bad-Brain Entertainment, a German publisher/developer which popped up out of nowhere and began throwing about rather specific hints that they were in negotiations with LucasArts for the Holy Grail of Adventure Gaming Freelance Police. And some of the fanboys thought it was good, but some did not.

And then a few days ago BBE announced that negotiations had failed. Whereupon the shit hit the fan, big time.

It all starts with a thread created by BBE at the Inventory's forums (which was officially endorsed by said forum in a mass-e-mail sent out by the admin) asking people to post and ask Steve Purcell to give BBE the rights to Sam & Max. In between the whining and pleading, some infighting begins as the anti-BBE folks show up. bigj unintentionally sets off a BBE vs. TellTale Games wank and also insinuates that the folks on the TellTale forums eat their own on a regular basis (he must have them confused with F_W). TellTale supporters are not happy.

But as if a bunch of bickering fanboys wasn't good enough, the press gets involved. It seems that both GameSpot and Aventura y CÍA were led by BBE to believe that negotiations had concluded positively. BBE denies this, repeatedly.

kelmer, who is apparently somehow affiliated with Aventura y CÍA, starts claiming that BBE called them five times and said they'd secured the rights. When people rebuff said claims, kelmer responds with appropriate maturity in a well-thought out post: "Whatever. Keep living in Happy World."

To counter kelmer's claims, d.manos, the Inventory's site admin, makes a lengthy post highlighting Aventura y CÍA's misdeeds. Conspiracy theories are invoked:

"They even came up with some kind of conspiracy of mine, which involved me making advertisement deals in Spain out of which the translators would get no money. Since the day I stopped providing them with the Inventory issues, there were a lot of 'strange' events that took place oh that site."

The thread quickly devolves into a caged death match between d.manos and kelmer...and currently ends with some guy named Lehmen, apparently also affiliated with Aventura, calling d.manos a liar and telling him, "Obviously, who's not continuing working for The Inventory is me, and you can take your magazine and put it in your ass, you who are calling us hypocrites and who are giving us lessons of profesionalism must think about your own proffesionalism starting this thread. And, please, retire also from your web site the numbers of The Spanish Inventory that you have uploaded, take them and put them in you ass too."

Mmm. Ass.

d.manos, who apparently refuses to quit making himself appear unprofessional, then proceeds to post a thread entitled "Adventure games should die a slow and painful death," in which he tells everyone that they suck for all the arguing going on over the past two days. That thread quickly becomes Udvarnoky against everybody.

The insanity is discussed more rationally at the Adventure Gamer forums, where you can witness kelmer's initial posts about the negotiations, which get ignored as the shit continues to hit the fan, and some relatively sane "what the shit is this, BBE?" discussions.

I believe The Silent Dude at Adventure Gamers said it best: "Internet Drama at its best." My baby fandom's gone and gotten spooge all over everything. I'm so proud.


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[info]ruaki
2005-01-30 09:14 pm UTC (link)
Damn. I loved Hit the Road--still own my copy even if I can't play it damn DOS being obsolete and DOSbox not working for me to fully enjoy the voices--and I remember being gungho about the sequel.

And then LucasArts... and then the rumors of this. ... and then now this.

I'll admit, it all reads like Klingon to me. Still, it's pretty amusing to watch the wank start about Sam & Max, but actually degenerate into vendetta and some personal intercompany grudges.

And d00d. Adventure games rock. I stopped being a PC gamer when Sierra and LucasArts pretty much ditched the genre. (Although LA tickled my happy spot with releasing Secret of Monkey Island 4.)

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[info]tyraarane_
2005-01-30 09:31 pm UTC (link)
Damn. I loved Hit the Road--still own my copy even if I can't play it damn DOS being obsolete and DOSbox not working for me to fully enjoy the voices--

*cough*ScummVM*cough*

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(no subject) - [info]ruaki, 2005-01-30 09:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tyraarane_, 2005-01-30 09:40 pm UTC
Ooh ahh chee!
[info]thebratqueen
2005-01-30 10:36 pm UTC (link)
I am in denial about LA ditching the genre. In my little world there WILL be more Monkey Island, damn it!

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Re: Ooh ahh chee! - [info]kijikun, 2005-01-30 11:12 pm UTC
Re: Ooh ahh chee! - [info]thebratqueen, 2005-01-30 11:15 pm UTC
Re: Ooh ahh chee! - [info]25th_of_april, 2005-01-31 03:29 am UTC
Re: Ooh ahh chee! - [info]tyraarane_, 2005-01-31 04:29 am UTC
Re: Ooh ahh chee! - (Anonymous), 2005-01-31 08:14 am UTC
Peep! - [info]25th_of_april, 2005-01-31 08:30 am UTC
I received this scar during a great struggle! - [info]ruaki, 2005-01-30 11:19 pm UTC
"What do you do for a living?" "Flooring inspector!" - [info]thebratqueen, 2005-01-30 11:23 pm UTC
"Where are your pants?" "What pants?" - [info]ruaki, 2005-01-30 11:31 pm UTC
Re: I received this scar during a great struggle! - [info]bubba_ray, 2005-01-31 12:28 am UTC
Re: I received this scar during a great struggle! - [info]ruaki, 2005-01-31 12:40 am UTC
Re: I received this scar during a great struggle! - [info]bubba_ray, 2005-01-31 12:46 am UTC
Re: I received this scar during a great struggle! - [info]ruaki, 2005-01-31 12:49 am UTC
Re: I received this scar during a great struggle! - [info]zarla, 2005-02-01 06:31 am UTC
Re: Ooh ahh chee! - [info]hinata, 2005-02-01 02:20 am UTC

[info]kijikun
2005-01-30 11:13 pm UTC (link)
I so miss my Sierra games. There is a good group making some KQ games though. Well remakes of sorts that are very good VGA games.

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(no subject) - [info]ruaki, 2005-01-30 11:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2005-01-31 12:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zarla, 2005-02-01 06:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruaki, 2005-02-01 06:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zarla, 2005-02-01 07:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruaki, 2005-02-01 07:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zarla, 2005-02-01 07:31 pm UTC

[info]jewishninja
2005-01-30 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Is that D. Greyman, I see? love.

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(no subject) - [info]ruaki, 2005-01-30 11:52 pm UTC

[info]25th_of_april
2005-01-30 09:22 pm UTC (link)
LucasArts wank makes me sad.

The knowledge that now I'll never get to play a Sam and Max game makes me sadder.

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ot, but...
[info]shatfat
2005-01-31 01:35 am UTC (link)
Icon love!

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Re: ot, but... - [info]25th_of_april, 2005-01-31 03:28 am UTC

[info]oulangi
2005-01-30 10:22 pm UTC (link)
Dimitri Manos or BNF LoTR fanficcer, you decide: Here's a lesson in English for you...
Criticism: The practice of analyzing, classifying, interpreting, or evaluating literary or other artistic works
Swearing at: To use abusive, violent, or blasphemous language against; curse

To your bad luck, my egotistical (spelled normally egoistic) persona would understand words like cabron and jilipollas even though the online translators won't. So sell your 'criticism' stories to someone else, the fact that someone writes in a forum doesn't give him or her any right to start saying whatever they want about someone else. Maybe you think that Internet is a playground?


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[info]elektra3
2005-01-30 11:12 pm UTC (link)
Maybe you think that Internet is a playground?

Well, yeah. Don't you? There's a great deal of resemblance - childish insults being thrown over every little thing, people flinging sand at each other...

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(no subject) - [info]seto_fangirl, 2005-01-31 01:44 am UTC

[info]annabelle_lee
2005-01-31 08:04 am UTC (link)
my egotistical (spelled normally egoistic)

I love people who act all pompous and still manage to screw up grammatically. The adjective of egoistic is not egotistical, it's egoistical, which is a synonym for egotistical.

Yay stupidity! What would we do without you?

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[info]kijikun
2005-01-30 11:10 pm UTC (link)
I just want more Monkey Island please.

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[info]cellardoor28
2005-01-31 11:57 am UTC (link)
icon love!

More Monkey Island would make the world a better place.

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[info]backfromspace
2005-01-31 12:01 am UTC (link)
And thus the wants of the great psychotic bunny lyphomorph* god are served.


*or whatever.

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[info]gutsy_bunny
2005-01-31 12:55 am UTC (link)
Lagomorph is the word you're looking for, I believe.

Me? Contribute something useful? Never.

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[info]msmanna
2005-01-31 01:59 am UTC (link)
you can take your magazine and put it in your ass

I think the insult 'put it in your ass' deserves much wider usage.

(Sam and Max. Pah. As far as adventure gaming goes, it's been downhill all the way since the introducion of that newfangled 'graphics' nonsense.)

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[info]khym_chanur
2005-01-31 02:11 am UTC (link)
As far as adventure gaming goes, it's been downhill all the way since the introducion of that newfangled 'graphics' nonsense.

Long live Zork and NetHack!!!

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(no subject) - [info]tyraarane_, 2005-01-31 04:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bard, 2005-01-31 04:44 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-01-31 06:31 am UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2005-01-31 02:11 am UTC (link)
But then LucasArts woke up on the wrong side of the bed and cancelled Freelance Police, and it was not good.

It's a good thing that Sam and Max aren't real, or...

Wait a minute, what am I saying. It's a bad thing that they aren't real, since it would be so entertaining to see what the two of them would do to LucasArts. "DEATH FROM ABOVE!!!!"

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[info]tyraarane_
2005-01-31 04:28 am UTC (link)
XD

I can just imagine the unholy terror those two could wreak...ah, if only.

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[info]rowan
2005-01-31 03:30 am UTC (link)
Wow, adventure game wank. *pats it*

In my dream world there will be a remake/sequel to Loom, dammit. (And ditto to the more Monkey Island.)

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[info]ruaki
2005-01-31 04:16 am UTC (link)
Loom seriously made me cry. I'm such a sap.

... my first piece of "original" fiction had Bobbin in it, I loved him so.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2005-01-31 05:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]non_horation, 2005-02-01 03:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]25th_of_april, 2005-01-31 08:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2005-01-31 12:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cathowl, 2005-01-31 12:28 pm UTC

[info]jennilee
2005-01-31 06:19 am UTC (link)
Sam 'n' Max rocked my world back then. I had no idea about all this drama existed! O_O

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[info]reinhardt
2005-01-31 08:18 am UTC (link)
Did not read wank. Way to boggled by the fact that Sam & Max brought teh wank in the first place to care. Man... I miss that game. Woe.

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Hitchhikers wank up for grabs
(Anonymous)
2005-01-31 01:40 pm UTC (link)
If anyone wants to report this from the AICN boards:

http://www.aintitcool.com/tb_display.cgi?id=19282#840481

Inspired by Moriaty's claim that criticism of the Mos Def casting comes from racism on the part of the fanboys, the talk back boards fill up with a "No! u iz teh racist!!111!!!" flamewar between various posters. Mary Angelou, Lenry Henry and Guildford all get dishonourable mentions.

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Thank you, F_W
(Anonymous)
2005-01-31 03:15 pm UTC (link)
I was one of those who'd heard that Bad Brains Entertainment did get the rights to continue developing Freelance Police. Now that I know the truth, I am not pleased. Not at all...

I wish I could sic that three foot rabbity thing we all know and love on those wankers, tee hee ^^

--blueshinra (http://www.livejournal.com/users/blueshinra/)

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(Anonymous)
2005-01-31 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Sometime 'intellectual' of the HP fandom decides to leave fandom for a bit for a rest.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/no_remorse/80175.html

All seems normal. Then sheposts again. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/no_remorse/80586.html)

To quote a bit.

So let's say, I am posting something, about Evil within the Trio or something and I might like it or maybe not (although I probably wouldn't post it then) and then someone comments. Or maybe no one comments. Or two people comment. And then I make a rough estimate of how many people were exposed to that post, how many active LJ users had it on their friendslist in some form or other and then I realise that there is a disparity between number of comments and number of (theoretical) readers. The great Sound of Silence.

And then I wonder why these people kept silent and can think only of four option: silent agreement, silent disagreement, considering the whole so sucky that it isn't even worth flaming or that I suck so badly that the theoretical reader in question always skips ahead to the next item in their flist, when they encounter me.

Two of those of four are clearly negative, one is kind of neutral and only one is positive. So like a true math fiend I am going with the odds that clearly tell me that I suck.

Now if this happens often, consistently... How long do you think it will take me to assume that I really am that sucktastic? How long, great has got to be the silence for me to be convinced that I am really not good at this?

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