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Tiara [my demand] ([info]mydemand) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-02-16 09:54:00
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NC-17 gets you a C&D
[info]likebunnies gets a C&D letter from the MPAA due to her use of "NC-17" as ratings for fanfic.

[info]heidi8 debates the issue and points out that MPAA doesn't have much of a leg to stand on.

New ratings systems are proposed.

Someone on [info]likebunnies's LJ points out that it may be a prank.

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(Anonymous)
2005-02-16 04:02 am UTC (link)
Seems to be fake attention seeking, knowing that chicks history in x-files.

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(Anonymous)
2005-02-16 04:48 am UTC (link)
Who was she in X-files?

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(no subject) - [info]likebunnies, 2005-02-16 02:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 04:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]likebunnies, 2005-02-16 04:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2005-02-16 05:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-02-17 02:38 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 05:06 pm UTC

[info]cathowl
2005-02-16 04:08 am UTC (link)
Real or attention-seeking, I think it's silly.
...Myself, I just use Miss Mab's Adopt a Panda censor ratings.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-02-16 02:36 pm UTC

[info]deejay435
2005-02-16 04:18 am UTC (link)
Eh.

I wouldn't buy it until the Pit starts getting C&D letters. Surely it's nigger than...whatever likebunnie's site is.

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(no subject) - [info]glomobius, 2005-02-16 04:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]deejay435, 2005-02-16 05:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2005-02-16 04:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]deejay435, 2005-02-16 05:50 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 08:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sewingmyfish, 2005-02-16 07:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yamashitaaki, 2005-02-17 04:26 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]deejay435, 2005-02-17 05:45 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 05:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-02-16 07:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deejay435, 2005-02-17 05:41 am UTC

[info]wankprophet
2005-02-16 04:31 am UTC (link)
I'll refrain from judgement on this except to say there's something slightly suspicious about it all, especially if no-fucking-one else gets such a letter. Given that she claims it was as delayed as it was, it seems likely that other people would already be looking at their own C & D orders if ones were sent.

But we do know one thing for certain: much of fandom has this insatiable need to be "omg urpressed by teh bastards!"

If there are two things I've learned from F_W, they're that:

1) the persecution complexes of a large segment of the fangirls and boys runs deeper and mightier than the Amazon River, and are more predictable than the collective plots of all the movies Jerry Bruckheimer made in the 80's and 90's put together;

and

2) no matter how hard we try to oppress them, it's never enough.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 04:37 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 05:36 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 06:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-02-16 10:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-02-16 02:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-02-16 07:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]livii, 2005-02-16 08:53 pm UTC

[info]loony666
2005-02-16 04:39 am UTC (link)
That's all very well and good, but where's the wank?

I think [info]fandom_lounge might be a better place for this.

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(no subject) - [info]gryffindor_phan, 2005-02-16 08:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mydemand, 2005-02-17 07:40 am UTC
Sort of OT
[info]pfeffermuse
2005-02-16 05:00 am UTC (link)
Was there at one time two other rating letters besides G, PG, PG-13, R, NC-17 and the old X? I could swear I remember seeing them on a trailer on some movies on FMC or TCM, and wondering what the hell they were.

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Re: Sort of OT - [info]tinybubbles, 2005-02-16 06:09 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]pfeffermuse, 2005-02-16 06:36 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]heddychaa, 2005-02-16 06:36 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 07:01 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - skadi, 2005-02-16 07:35 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 07:44 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - skadi, 2005-02-16 08:00 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 08:06 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - skadi, 2005-02-16 08:08 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - skadi, 2005-02-16 08:06 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 08:34 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]lukita, 2005-02-16 08:49 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]winterfalls, 2005-02-16 12:05 pm UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]lukita, 2005-02-16 03:57 pm UTC
Re: Sort of OT - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 08:34 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]mindset, 2005-02-16 12:43 pm UTC
Re: Sort of OT - urbanspaceman, 2005-02-16 08:57 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-02-16 10:50 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - urbanspaceman, 2005-02-16 11:03 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]mindset, 2005-02-16 12:37 pm UTC
Re: Sort of OT - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 02:11 pm UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2005-02-16 04:14 pm UTC
Re: Sort of OT - (Anonymous), 2005-02-17 03:05 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 09:35 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]phosfate, 2005-02-16 08:02 pm UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]telophase, 2005-02-17 12:37 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]greenling, 2005-02-17 03:47 am UTC
Re: Sort of OT - [info]mydemand, 2005-02-17 07:44 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-02-16 05:35 am UTC (link)
I lurk...and now I comment....

Does it strike anyone else as odd that only NC-17 is being targeted? I would think the MPAA would have trademarked all its precious designations, not just big bad NC-17.

I'm certainly not changing anything any time soon.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-02-16 02:41 pm UTC

[info]munchkinott
2005-02-16 05:52 am UTC (link)
Now if it was the BBFC - everyone'd be getting thank you letters.

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(Anonymous)
2005-02-16 06:00 am UTC (link)
Likebunnies! God, I didn't know that J. had an LJ. That takes me back.

In kind of an unpleasant way.

Anyhoo, if this is real, it's retarded. The MPAA's new boss must be flexing his... flaccid muscles.

FWIW, I'm a minion in this industry, and in-house lawyers frequently have nothing better to do than send out C&D letters. Once some poor lady sent us a cookie basket that involved her rendition of our Rather Famous Logo, and the lawyer happened to be walking by and just lost. his. shit. And then the poor lady called, crying, and, man.

Entertainment lawyers tend to be kind of tightly wound.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 06:44 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-02-16 06:05 am UTC (link)
Damn. I wanted to be all indignant, but then I read the actual letters and MPAA's position makes sense. Even if it's a uh, you just noticed this now? kind of sense.

Oh well, back to my pr0n. (How ironic.)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-16 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vampychick, 2005-02-16 10:07 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-17 09:47 am UTC

[info]snacky
2005-02-16 06:09 am UTC (link)
Where's the wank?

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(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2005-02-16 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-02-16 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]temari, 2005-02-16 07:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]slackerbitch, 2005-02-16 08:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]temari, 2005-02-16 09:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-17 12:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-02-17 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-02-16 06:49 am UTC

[info]lukita
2005-02-16 06:13 am UTC (link)
Is it evil of me to want to compile a list of all the sites that uses G to nc-17 rating and tell the MPAA to have fun? Cause seriously, years too late with the C&D letters.

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(no subject) - [info]kalika_maxwell, 2005-02-16 06:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lukita, 2005-02-16 07:28 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-02-17 09:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pfeffermuse, 2005-02-16 07:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lukita, 2005-02-16 07:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-02-16 02:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-02-16 09:43 pm UTC

[info]seto_fangirl
2005-02-16 06:54 am UTC (link)
It seems this goes back as far as a year ago....seems RestrictedSection.org got slapped with one in January of last year.....

http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/journal/2003_01_12_j_archive.htm#87415612
http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=griffen&itemid=328009

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(no subject) - [info]seto_fangirl, 2005-02-16 06:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2005-02-16 07:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]machiavellian, 2005-02-16 09:06 pm UTC

[info]kijikun
2005-02-16 07:41 am UTC (link)
Checked Chilling effects and this is the only NC-17 MPAA rating infrigment C&D found.

Nothing on the main page or under fanfiction section either.

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[info]linzee
2005-02-16 07:55 am UTC (link)
I saw this on my flist a few times but I'm still WTF-ing. Talk about catching slashers with a butterfly net...

What I want to know is how they honestly think they are going to stop the "illegal" use of NC-17. Wouldn't that be a little like McDonalds trying to prevent everyone in the world from using the phrase 'happy meal' in text without written permission? Yes, it's technically copyrighted, but it's so engrained in the culture that it would be hard to honestly prove they were being harmed, or to actually enforce that in court.

Or is it just the idea that by equating NC-17 with porn in fandom, we are sullying it's good name and insinuating that the MPAA has approved our Remus/Sirius/harp seal non-con S&M songfic? Hmm. Maybe we should all start referring to penises as "Happy Meals" from now on just to see what happens...

Linzee

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(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2005-02-16 08:15 am UTC
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[info]shadownlite
2005-02-16 08:55 am UTC (link)
I actually love the "Angry Wombat" ratings system propsed. It had me laughing and going "WTF???" for a good 2 minutes.

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(no subject) - [info]vampychick, 2005-02-16 10:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2005-02-16 11:39 am UTC
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[info]mortifyd
2005-02-16 09:06 am UTC (link)
I'm partial to Wikdsushi's "Pudge" Rating System myself...

Hee hee hee, the Pudge System.

Pudge in Sport Coat: Kissing, some hugging, generally safe for the whole family.

Pudge in Medieval Garb: Mild swearing, the odd, slight innuendo. Not for very young children or the painfully innocent.

Pudge in Tight T-Shirt: Heavier language, references to sex, some violence. Intended for a teenage audience or older.

Pudge with Bulge (Jeans): Fade-to-black or very mild sex scenes, mild to moderate violence. Not for children.

Pudge with Bulge (Swimwear): Graphic, if vanilla, sex scenes. Swearing. Violence, though not torture and not in the extreme.

NAKED PUDGE!: BDSM, whips, chains, kinky sex, torture, violence, water sports, incest, you name it. Not intended for those below the age of Dead.

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(no subject) - [info]squib, 2005-02-16 11:40 am UTC
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[info]adora_spintriae
2005-02-16 10:49 am UTC (link)
I wonder, if I set up the site using the OFLC (Australian) system, will I get a swanky letter?

Or are they really too busy watching porn and telling smut mags to airbrush labia into non-existence to care?

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Informing your choices! - [info]littlemisspiss, 2005-02-16 02:08 pm UTC

[info]msmanna
2005-02-16 01:03 pm UTC (link)
I've always said that I'll put ratings on all my fiction when Borders does. I already have a warnings page up, and when a story has a little Incest! or Bestiality! label next to it, I think I've done my duty for people who want to find the kinky stuff avoid things.

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(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-02-20 09:40 am UTC

[info]ashenmote
2005-02-16 04:19 pm UTC (link)
I would not worry. I am sure [info]fandom_scruples will bear the court costs if you defend your right to protect the children from the smut.

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[info]majinkarp
2005-02-16 10:46 pm UTC (link)
Man, is everything going to be proprietary now? Will we be sued if we say "Kleenex" without permission? Do we have to pay extra to order a Coke? I think this whole thing is both ludicrous and disturbing.

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[info]pyratejenni
2005-02-17 02:34 am UTC (link)
Something that occured to me....

Remember the wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl halftime last year?

It's been just over a year, and I bet the ratings people are desperate to show Concerned Idiots for America and their ilk "We're doing something! Really! Lookeee! We're protecting children on the Intarnet! Pleeeease don't write and demand the FCC get medieval on us!"

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[info]kalika_maxwell
2005-02-17 04:42 am UTC (link)
Can somebody tell me what is/was [info]likebunnies's website?

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(no subject) - [info]bitca, 2005-02-17 06:08 pm UTC

[info]nobody_else
2005-02-18 05:27 am UTC (link)
Doesn't bother me nearly so much as the way she handled it.

On TWW Yahoogroups she runs she seemed to imply that OMG! Someone turned her into the MPAA and OMG! People are </i>clearly</i> trying to drum her out of the fandom. So she picked up her toys and stomped out of the fandom, but not so quickly that she couldn't stick around and see what people said about her and the OMG!Threatening Letter on the same group.

Self important much??

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