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pd_noosh ([info]pd_noosh) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-02-24 11:48:00


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Wankery Without Pity
Let us consider the plight of the TWoP recapper. To slave away at their art for the teeming, uneducated, less-gifted masses must be an arduous task. Should the recapper not be exalted, praised for her service and sacrifice?

Alas, sometimes they are not, as Pamie discovered when she posted a link to this recap of a recent Gilmore Girls episode. It turns out that one TWoP reader, "Katie," didn't like the recap so much, and very politely explained why. After several comments of agreement, recapper extraordinaire Omar G uses an odd home decorating metaphor to berate the ungrateful currs. More recappers step in to deliver self-righteous hissyfits respond to such scathing, hateful criticisms as "usually love your recaps. I hope your future ones live up to what I know you're capable of." Hilarity ensues.



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[info]esseilte
2005-02-24 08:20 pm UTC (link)
I'm not even vaguely surprised. I love TWoP, but it's a waste of time to bother criticising anyone on those boards. I can't say I'm shocked that someone decided to do it elsewhere instead.

I don't go to the Gilmore Girls area (what the hell IS that, anyway?) but I've become annoyed at aspects of several Buffy recaps in the past - it was just a waste of time to say so. Especially as it was Spike-related.

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[info]rubytramp
2005-02-24 08:25 pm UTC (link)
Ah, I was waiting for someone to post this wank. It's quite funny, TWoP and FTer pride themselves on being the creme de creme of internet fandom but lately? Not so much, as in at all. And for the record I've never been banned from either site and am sort of friends with at least one recapper.

I just stay away these days or stick to one or two well known threads.

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(Anonymous)
2005-02-24 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Hah! Those TWOP-writers really do strike me as a bunch of wankers. A lot of them are certainly capable of being funny, and so their recaps can be fun to read, but it does seem like a lot of them are very smug and self-satisfied about having their heads up their asses.

I haven't read any of the Gilmore Girls recaps, but I do remember trying to read Buffy recaps of later episodes, and it was just unpleasant. The recappers were often justified in thinking the show sucked, sure. But that meant they should have been making funny, biting comments about them, not bitterly whining about how the show had been ruined.

Also, what's all this about "you can't complain when she's providing this recap for you for free!" Well, in the first place, it really isn't free. The website is plastered with annoying ads we have to look at, and the recaps are annoyingly broken up into shorter pages so we have to look at even more ads. I'm not saying that's a big deal--it's much preferable than our having to give the site money directly (which I wouldn't do). But the site gets money from advertisers by trying to provide entertainment, and we take in the ads the site gets paid for as well as the entertainment. It's a lot like network TV that way. If people generally like the entertainment but don't find it up to snuff, it shouldn't be considered outrageous and rude for them to say so.

In the second place, isn't recapping a paying job? She's getting money for doing this, sheesh. It's not like she's being oh-so-generous with her time to try to make strangers on the Internet happy. And it's not like there aren't plenty of funny people who couldn't step in to the job for her instead.

The impression I get from TWOP is that it's run by a bunch of friends who can't decide if they want it to be an exclusive little clubhouse or an actual business.

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[info]soleta
2005-02-24 08:57 pm UTC (link)
I cannot ever ever watch Gilmore Girls, because I keep thinking Golden Girls, and omg I hated that show.

OTOH, this is fucking funny. totally incoherent, but fucking funny.

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[info]blue_linnet
2005-02-24 09:04 pm UTC (link)
I like TWoP a lot, probably partly because of sentimental value (was how I got into internet fandom at all.) But some recappers are definitely better than others. And Pamie is, uh, not so great. Her Gilmore Girls recaps are very seldom funny, and often just plain *whiny*. Nasty, I can deal with. Heck, that's why I read their American Idol recaps. And I think Sars' recaps of 'Dawson's Creek' are some of the funniest things ever, and she's very very mean. (It helps that I agree with her.) But whiny and pouty is not appealing.

I don't read the recaps anymore--it's not even a matter of disagreeing with her. I disagree with Sobell on CSI often, but I still think she's funny most of the time.

So yes. I think pamie needs a kick to take the bitching about Lorelai down about twenty notches. First of all, probably 90 percent of forum readers disagree with her. Not that that means she should change her opinion, but, like, known your audience, yeesh.

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[info]hermiones_hymen
2005-02-24 09:07 pm UTC (link)
It should come as no surprise to anyone that the "Linda" wanking away so hard on the comment page is the never-funny, always-sanctimonious Miss Alli.

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[info]chopperbetty
2005-02-24 09:28 pm UTC (link)
I still love TWoP even though I don't go to the boards there so much anymore, but I don't see how the initial criticisims of the recap were "personally attacking" Pamie. Did I miss that or something?

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[info]livii
2005-02-24 09:29 pm UTC (link)
Very good wank, thanks for posting. I always love wanks where the person being criticized's friends all come in and start wanking away defending their friend. Especially since none of them bother to put their email addresses in the comments.

I watch ER, and half of the reason I still bother with it is to read the recaps. But I've been lucky, my shows have had good recappers. TwoP is a weird little beast.

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[info]cynicelle
2005-02-24 09:33 pm UTC (link)
I know that several of these TWoP/DamnHellAssWhatever types are professional writers, and kerfluffles like this always make me wonder what they do when they get a bad review in a venue where they can't either delete it or gang up on the reviewer and flame the poor person back to the Stone Age.

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[info]deeablo
2005-02-24 09:47 pm UTC (link)
I admit that it was Pamie's HILARIOUS recaps of Young Americans that brought me to MGTV in... gah, the summer of 2000. I did meet several smart, funny people there that I consider good friends.

However. The humorless TWOP assholes once again attack those who dare express an opinion. Erin says, "They're not even on TWoP! Know why? 'Cuz if they HAD been on TWoP, y'all woulda been banned." Because it's their little playground, doncha know. And you can't disagree, no matter how civilly, or else you are booted.

If this is hilarity, thank Christ I left TWoP several years ago. As a sidenote, I absolutely LOATHE when the recappers constantly refer to their own lives in the summaries. An offhand comment here or there is fine. But when it delves into paragraphs of "Here's a funny story in my life that I', adding just because I'm low on the word count and don't want to bother talking about the actual show or its contents," it's hardcore wanky. Strega used to have tons of not-at-all-funny conversations with Joanna, Erin (formerly Regina Rogue) blathers about cabana boys or some such in her Alias recaps -- I tried to read a few years ago and stopped because of the stupid -- and Alex Richmond bleats boring stories instead of paying attention to the plot and dialogue. Her Jake 2.0 recaps are riddled with errors.

Plus TWOP treats their posters like crap. There's an admin board in which they rip posters amongst each other. There's lists and everything. Professional, that.

Also, a friend of mine who just joined got a warning from Strega for posting apporved links in the forums. She's written several times to both Strega and Sars apologizing and asking how/if she can get her posting status back. They've ignored her for a month. Way to build a fanbase yet count the person as a member for your records! Jerks.

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[info]snacky
2005-02-24 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Good god! All this because someone didn't like a recap?

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[info]meatfight
2005-02-24 09:59 pm UTC (link)
Please stop making personal references in your recaps. I don't really care if you and "Stee" sound like Rory and Paris. Details of your wedding is totally unnecessary for a recap of a tv show. To people who don't know you and don't care, details of your personal life are boring. If you require such high standards for the writing and acting of a tv show, maybe you should apply those high standards to your recaps. I want recaps to sound like recaps, if I want to read your diary I'll head to your website.

Word.

(She might be being facetious, but I don't think so. Especially since Sars et al. smacked her down a few comments later.

But seriously: you're married. We get it. We are appropriately impressed that you managed to snag a man -- through TWoP, no less (I think that's how it went anyway). Now Shut up about it and get back to the funny and snarky.

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(Anonymous)
2005-02-24 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Pot, meet ketle.

Fandom wank, meet TwP.

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(Anonymous)
2005-02-24 10:18 pm UTC (link)
I lost any and all respect for TWoP once they started blatantly cribbing from Livejournal users to do their recaps. During the last season of Angel, at least 40% of the jokes had been directly delivered to people's friends page by LJ users. Smallville is no better, and American Idol is infamous for it. I don't like a wittier than thou attitude from people who have to crib their jokes from LJ.

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[info]cleolinda
2005-02-24 11:08 pm UTC (link)
I love some of their recaps/recappers, and yeah, Pamie's "Young Americans" recaps were some of the funniest things ever. But it bothers me when they have a fairly good show that a lot of people like, and the person writing the recap clearly hates it. I love a lot of Pamie's writing, but... yeah, the hate is starting to come out for the "Gilmore Girls" recaps. I really don't enjoy their "Lost" recaps much for that reason, either--two different recappers, going on three now, and they don't seem to have anyone who can enjoy it AND snark on it.

(Disclaimer: I freely admit that the entire concept of recapping Lost as I do is completely ripped off from TWOP. It started off as "Hey, if you guys missed what happened" entries I'd post immediately after the show and just sort of... grew from there.)

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[info]thebratqueen
2005-02-25 12:08 am UTC (link)
*reads through comments*

Damn. I didn't think it was possible for so many TWoP recappers to spooge themselves at once. Just goes to show you learn something new every day.

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[info]hooverdam
2005-02-25 12:21 am UTC (link)
Hey, if this is now an all-purpose TWoP grievance fest, I'd like to mention that their 24 recaps are so full of in-jokes and nicknames so as to render them pretty much useless.

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24 recaps - (Anonymous), 2005-02-26 12:47 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-02-25 12:32 am UTC (link)
See.... here's what I don't get about TWoP....

A few weeks ago I missed an episode of Gilmore Girls so being that I enjoy the show and bigcool things were set to happen the next episode I thought it logical to read the recap.

I don't mind snark, even though I love GG, and normally I just shrug off un-funny people and leave them be. Her digressions into her personal life? Uninteresting but not a big deal. My problem is that her writing does not make it clear what's "Pamie snark" and what's "Gilmore snark" (it is afterall a very snarky show in its own way), nor is it clear what is just humor or actual episode-plot or where the personal digressions start. Worst of all she uses stupid pet names for characters based on inside jokes and seems to general dislike ALL the main characters.

So the end result is in order to make sense of what happened in the episode from the recap you actually had to have WATCHED THE EPISODE!!! >.< Otherwise you have no freaking clue what's going on.

I thought it was supposed to be Television WITHOUT Pity. If you have to have seen the episode in order to read the recap ... doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose of recapping it? @_@

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(Anonymous)
2005-02-25 01:07 am UTC (link)
Does anyone with insider info know why Aaron was fired/quit so abruptly? His departure was a big WTF?

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[info]amakath
2005-02-25 02:54 am UTC (link)
Um. I. Fucking. Hate. TwoP, y'all. No, seriously. Now I shall tell you an unrelated clever story about my dog, and give him a clever nickname, but when I mention my dog in the future I shall refer to him by this nickname and never give you any further indication that he is, in fact, my dog.

WORD.

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[info]meatfight
2005-02-25 02:58 am UTC (link)
With all the general hate and bitching about TWoP (which, believe me, I could do too -- especially about Pamie), I just want to show some love for Jessica. Her X-Files recaps were awesome, I am still reading her blog almost three years after the show ended (...*sniff*), and the Fug Blog is awesome. (So I guess I should give props to Heathen too.) Jessica (as I recall) is an example of a recapper who can recap a show so that people who haven't seen the episode get it AND be funny and snarky. And the action figures were great. And her name is my name too.

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[info]misswindy
2005-02-25 04:34 am UTC (link)
One of the most nauseating evidence of the culture of self-congratulation and entitlement that goes on at TWoP is this entry from Pamie about 2 years ago, wherein she explains - 100% seriously - that Time magazine does not understand snark to the subtle and brilliant depths that TWoP recappers do. Some of the highlights:

I write for a site that does snark for a living. And there are people who hate us. Hate us. Fill pages upon pages of forums and livejournals with bitter, spitting fury. It's interesting how many of them hate the site because they have to deal with each other, having to read opinions they violently oppose on a public forum. They hate having to read something they disagree with. And the ones who hate the recaps, they hate the fact that someone's made a joke out of something they love unconditionally.


Yes, Pamie. That's exactly why the people on the TWoP Everwood forums made ABChao (who herself plagiarized parts of one of [info]queenofalostart's PanFandom recaps wholesale in S2) swear never to take a vacation again after Pamie posted this heartburn-inducing humorless crap as a stand-in.

It's because we fear your painful honesty, Pamie. It can never be because something you wrote is actually, you know, not any good.

By the way, has anyone ever seen "pages and pages of spitting fury" about a TWoP recap? Or is that just necessary to make them look oh-so-renegade? Sigh. Whatever.

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[info]sockonhand
2005-02-25 05:06 am UTC (link)
From what I understand, most of the recappers at TWoP are professional writers in some way. Now, given that they are paid to write this, I don't think they should be upset at receiving criticism, whereever or how. After all, if you cannot handle people criticising your work and/or opinions, don't write professionally. They don't have a duty to like what they review, but they do have to be willing to accept the polite criticism the first person on that thread offered. Omar seems to be notorious for being overprotective of the recapping, simply because he hates it so much. I know there are these things called bills that need to be paid, but I really have no sympathy for them. It's a job that lots of people (who are capable and funny, and much less pretentious) would take a in a heartbeat.

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[info]twocorpses
2005-02-25 08:20 am UTC (link)
I always got the impression that the people on TWoP were a close-knit group but this makes me sad. Granted, I didn't really like the direction the BtVS recaps went... after season 3 really (heh and the old ones were so much better than the ones being written as the show aired). I don't mind Strega's Angel recaps and I love Sobell's CSI recaps but even there, you can see that she doesn't enjoy the show as much anymore. That's probably one of the hazards of doing this.

I don't think I'll be supporting them anymore (read: buying their overpriced shite) but I'll probably still read the recaps. :\

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did Wesley kill your mother or something?
[info]dana
2005-02-25 02:43 pm UTC (link)
I used to read the Smallville recaps back when I was a fan. They were OK, some were quite funny.

Then I tried Angel and the recapper had it in for Wesley, a character I like, I tried to ignore that, but it was so vitriolic.

So I stopped reading them. Fortunately because we were half a season behind the US I couldn't really say anthing in the forums, I would have otherwise. Was very annoying.

Ah well.

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Re: did Wesley kill your mother or something? - (Anonymous), 2005-02-26 11:15 am UTC
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