kannaophelia
2005-02-25 11:55 am UTC (link)

Oh, well, I'm there wanking away, because I was so stunned by the concept that someone would fill her story with so much made-up video-game language that she had to include a link to translations and apparently not consider for one moment that other might be annoyed.

Really, even though I know responding to anything I see pop up on my flist from that comm is a very very bad idea, my brain will not stop my fingers from typing. I blame the "How can any be stupid as to know not to make tea! You use tea bags! Duh!" rant for weakening my resistance.

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	wolfychan 2005-02-25 12:00 pm UTC (link)
	It was the bitterly condescending tone of the post that got to me. "You don't know Al Bhed and that's my problem? Great, great, do I need to tie your shoes for you too, dumbass?" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kannaophelia 2005-02-25 12:02 pm UTC (link)
	She provided a link! What more do we want? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	wolfychan 2005-02-25 12:08 pm UTC (link)
	I want her to stop picking on the minor misspellings in a review that happens to be completely right. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kannaophelia 2005-02-25 12:29 pm UTC (link)
	I kind of want a link to the fic itself so I can see if it's as bad as I suspect. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	dawnswalker 2005-02-25 01:07 pm UTC (link)
	But unless you can read Al Bhed, how will you know? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kannaophelia 2005-02-25 01:11 pm UTC (link)
	None of you are paying proper attention. She provided a link to a translator! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	dawnswalker 2005-02-25 01:31 pm UTC (link)
	You mean... she uses a translator?! Where is her leather-bound edition of the ~~interfandom~~ international Al Bhed-English dictionary?! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mooncalf 2005-02-25 01:13 pm UTC (link)
	Palyica upjeuicmo cra'mm byehcdygehkmo lid yht bycda ajano cehkma ped uv Ym Prat ehdu dra dnyhcmydun, zicd du veht uid! (E's y fecaycc. Hu mehg ehlmitat!) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Pedlr, bmayca. kannaophelia 2005-02-25 01:17 pm UTC (link)
	Huf oui'na zicd paehk cemmo. Dra dnyhcmydun ec vun udran baubma duu mywo du maynh dra myhkiyka. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Pedlr, bmayca. doyle 2005-02-25 03:56 pm UTC (link)
	Now you're just being silly. The translator is for other people too lazy to learn the language. The post's gone, but is this the game language? Not so much a language as a code, then, and one that takes all of thirty seconds to crack... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Pedlr, bmayca. kannaophelia 2005-02-25 04:47 pm UTC (link)
	No, no. It's a language. ~wide innocent eyes~ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	dawnswalker 2005-02-25 01:29 pm UTC (link)
	Ryr, dra zuga'c uh oui! Dra geht uv vyhveldeuh dryd fuimt pa fneddah eh Ym Prat fuimt hud pa dra geht dryd sana sihtyhac fuimt pa ypma du nayt. Dra binacd vyhc fuimth'd haat hu cdehgeh' ehdanhad dnyhcmydun! (Uv luinca, E'ja hajan ajah bmyoat dra kysa, cu ed'c ugyo vun sa du ica dra dnyhcmydun.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	indis_earfalas 2005-02-25 02:37 pm UTC (link)
	Aien, huknd! 'Seomi ifihayri gryzm ayo'hi ryd e dhoi wer, orcimm ayo gryz dni whisgurk cerkoeki pa niehd! Zny dni nicc zerdm dy wehd-ehmi ehyort zudn e pcyyta dhermcedih znir ayo'hi hieturk WERWUS?? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	wolfychan 2005-02-25 08:11 pm UTC (link)
	Shit, dude (lady, whatever), that's not even real Al Bhed. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	chash 2005-02-25 09:18 pm UTC (link)
	I think s/he used the translator, but put in an English phrase and then selected "Al Bhed to English" for the translation. You can read it if you put it in and say it's English. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	nights_mistress 2005-02-25 01:45 pm UTC (link)
	This is just an excuse to use my icon. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	chash 2005-02-25 05:23 pm UTC (link)
	Eh Al Bhed, dra hysa uv dra myhkiyka ec cdemm "Al Bhed." Zicd y raytc ib. Ymdruikr "Ym Prat" ec yh aqlammahd funt. (Ec ed cyt dryd E maynhat drec myhkiyka vnus vyhvel palyica cu syho teth'd dnyhcmyda? Oayr, E druikrd cu.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

kaen
2005-02-25 08:55 pm UTC (link)

"Ym Prat" ec yldiymmo uha uv dra naycuhc dryd E lyh iciymmo nayt Al Bhed fedruid y dnyhcmydun (ev E lyna ahuikr du tu cu vun cusa naycuh). "Ym Prat" = fryd baubma fru zicd drnuf cusadrehk ehdu y dnyhcmydun fedruid nakyntc du dra vaf nimac dra "myhkiyka" ryc lymm Al Bhed, oui = you, E muja ran = I love her, t < = > d, yht k < = > g. Drah E ryja ymm dra jufamc yht y vaf luhcuhyhdc yht E lyh iciymmo vekina uid drehkc vnus drana.

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	chash 2005-02-25 09:16 pm UTC (link)
	E zicd nasaspan ypuid drnaa brycac ("oui caa," "cunno" yht "vydran") yht vnus drana, E nasaspan dra nacd. E's hud cina ruf ed fungc, pid ed tuac. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iczer6 2005-02-25 11:28 pm UTC (link)
	L&Behk du ihtancdyht drec drnayt ec bnaddo tynh yhhuoehk cu fro yna fa tuehk ed? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kimera 2005-02-26 12:00 am UTC (link)
	Palyica fa'na tungc? Un, yd maycd, E ys. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	chash 2005-02-26 12:42 am UTC (link)
	E cdyndat uid zicd naytehk ed fedruid, E yccisa du bnuja dra cewa uv so vyhtus pymmc. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2005-02-25 07:53 pm UTC (link)
	ICON. LOVE. oliverbutton (Reply to this)(Parent)

	isobelsomething 2005-02-25 11:39 pm UTC (link)
	ICON LOVE. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mooncalf 2005-02-26 02:14 am UTC (link)
	Thanks! It's free for the taking if you want it. SPREAD THE PEA LOVE (Reply to this)(Parent)

	hypno_jango 2005-02-25 03:10 pm UTC (link)
	I understand. My friend told me about a fanfic that was littered with tons of fangirl Japanese. The author put the huge translation of all the words/phrases at the end of the fic. My friend didn't want to scroll all the way down the page every time she ran into a Japanese word that could have just been written in English. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	wolfychan 2005-02-25 08:16 pm UTC (link)
	See, this is why I never finished Dune. Flipping back to the glossary every 10 sentences so I can see what fake Arabic word Herbert has come up with now is not my idea of fun. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	doyle 2005-02-25 03:49 pm UTC (link)
	Baleeted! (Reply to this)

	sarajayechan 2005-02-25 06:17 pm UTC (link)
	It was deleted. :/ (Reply to this)

	croik 2005-02-25 06:25 pm UTC (link)
	Isn't Al Behd just replacing certain letters with other letters anyway? Let me get my trusty Christmas Story decoder ring! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	greekhoop 2005-02-26 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	Not all of us have ten Phoenix Down proofs of purchase to mail in for our own Al Bhed Secret Decoder Ring, okay? cries (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	wolfychan 2005-02-26 08:22 pm UTC (link)
	A couple days ago, we were watching Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within in the dorm lounge. Every time someone died or got hurt, we'd scream for them to use a Phoenix Down or a Hi-Potion. So much pain could have been avoided... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	greekhoop 2005-02-26 11:47 pm UTC (link)
	What I've always wondered is why Cloud didn't just use a Phoenix Down on Aeris when she got run through. Duh, Cloud! (Reply to this)(Parent)

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tabby_phobos
2005-02-25 07:39 pm UTC (link)
*covers ears* Lalala, my friend is not wanky. Lalala, my friend is not wanky. Lalala, my friend is not wanky...

Oh, who the fuck am I kidding? My friend is wanky. *sigh*
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zarla
2005-02-25 11:46 pm UTC (link)
It amuses me so much that in a community where almost every other post is about how people should stop writing in random foreign languages, she posts this and is shocked SHOCKED I TELL YOU that people don't agree.

Heh heh.

"The post was badly wounded, but the soul still burns!"
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selene_avis
2005-02-26 03:24 am UTC (link)
I'm not totally against the idea of having a different language in a fan fiction, but if it does appear it should be either:

a. Something nonconsequencial that the audience doesn't need to understand to enjoy the fan fiction. (For instance, a person say "Good morning!" to a character in another language.)

b. Cleverly translated in the prose done in such a subtle way as to clue the audience in on what was said without making them conciously aware of the fact that a translation was provided. (Tricky to pull off, but not impossible.)

c. A word of phrase that anyone familiar with the canon would know. (Honorifics for something like 'kagemusha' from the Samurai Deeper Kyo fandom. This should only be used when the word/phrase isn't something that doesn't translate properly.)
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toxictattoo
2005-02-26 03:42 pm UTC (link)
[glorks]

There's a Samurai Deeper Kyo fandom?
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selene_avis
2005-02-27 04:27 am UTC (link)
Visit love_deeper over at livejournal.com. If nothing else, there's you and me.
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sesana
2005-02-26 08:31 am UTC (link)
It's amazing how many writers sincerely don't want readers to understand their fics.
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toxictattoo
2005-02-26 03:41 pm UTC (link)
Of course we don't. We can't sit around and angst about how misuderstood our efforts are if people actually understand our fics!

[drapes dramatically over the sofa arm]
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coffee_mug
2005-02-27 08:16 pm UTC (link)
I'm not really bothered by having to google "Al Bhed translator" in order to understand a phrase or two. Then again, I just don't give a shit because so much of what I've read of FFX fanfiction has been crappy and hasn't interested me enough for me to actually read any fic with Al Bhed.
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