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	lulinda 2003-06-08 09:03 am UTC (link)
	Man, I don't know where you find the strength to argue with some of these people. Am also starting to wonder if u_make_lj_suck makes LJ suck. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	uniquesnowflake 2003-06-08 09:13 am UTC (link)
	Seeing as 1/4 of the (decidedly more intelligent) members of the community bitch on a daily basis about how much the other 3/4 of the members of the community suck, I'm gonna have to say that, yeah, u_make_lj_suck really does make LJ suck. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lulinda 2003-06-08 09:16 am UTC (link)
	You should report u_make_lj_suck to u_make_lj_suck. Would terrifically meta and very amusing. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

uniquesnowflake
2003-06-08 09:20 am UTC (link)

I am soooo tempted. I'll wait until this bit of...whatever it is...dissolves, and then make a post about it. Just in case fluttrgrl or whatever the hell her username is doesn't ban me before I've had my masochistic wanky fun.

We've already had posts about people having their icons stolen under their noses, and then USED by other members in the same posts in the community.

Clearly, though, theives in question didn't realize that the two members who were robbed were cleverly making a jab at them in an openly worded u_make_lj_suck post.

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aruru
2003-06-08 11:29 am UTC (link)

I'll wait until this bit of...whatever it is...dissolves, and then make a post about it. Just in case fluttrgrl or whatever the hell her username is doesn't ban me before I've had my masochistic wanky fun.

You know, one of the things that most amused me the last time you appeared in a wank about that place was when the aforementioned girl came in and tried to scold you with what basically amounted to "Don't dictate to people what's not sucky! You can disagree, but you can't come in and tell people why you don't think it deserves to be here, and you can't tell people that you think they're being sucky, even if you think they do!" Girl couldn't make up her mind what the fuck she wants with that comm.

Funny, funny stuff.

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zannechaos
2003-06-08 09:04 am UTC (link)

Don't touch people who like to air their opinions about pro-life and pro-choice all over the internet with a 39 1/2 foot pole.

'Cause they're a mean one, Mister Grinch, their heart's an empty hole...

But yes. This is why I quit the ProLife community and why I stay out of debate communities unless I really feel in the mood to get involved with something that I do feel strongly enough about to actually care.

If that didn't make sense, oh well. I don't really feel strongly enough about the abortion/life thing to get involved with screaming about it. The stupidity that can go on there makes my eyes bleed.

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	sorchar 2003-06-08 09:08 am UTC (link)
	Not only is it proper, it's encouraged. As long as we can still laugh at ourselves, we're doing fine. G (Reply to this)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-06-08 09:18 am UTC (link)
	Ya gotta love the girl who says she's had a few drinks, being an alcoholic and all, then a few minutes later accuses you of drinking and/or smoking pot! Hypocritical, much? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	uniquesnowflake 2003-06-08 09:37 am UTC (link)
	"I was adopted because my parents didn't want me. This is why I think think people should have abortions." Quite possibly the biggest post-hoc fallacy I've ever seen in my entire life. And I'm wondering, out of everything I heard, is she pro-life, or pro-choice? Does she pay her taxes? Does she support her local ASPCA coalition? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-06-08 09:48 am UTC (link)
	Actually, it was that ranting 'pro-choice' techchick (or whatever) who said that. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	uniquesnowflake 2003-06-08 09:57 am UTC (link)
	It was? I lost complete view of her political stance in between her accusing me of being a wuss, generally threatening me, and, well, the huge steaming piles of bullshit and suck. Can anyone blame me? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-06-08 10:08 am UTC (link)
	Hardly ! Seriously, she started out by saying she had had a few glasses of wine, no problem, went on later to say she felt she shouldn't have been born since alcoholism is one of the things that runs in her family, further down tells you to quit drinking and smoking pot and that you might make some sense!! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	uniquesnowflake 2003-06-08 10:39 am UTC (link)
	This girl makes my seriously disturbing life issues seem like childsplay. I almost feel bad arguing with her, because I might mess her up even more. Wait. What the hell? No I don't. (Reply to this)(Parent)

beandelphiki
2003-06-08 10:06 am UTC (link)

Wow.

Just...wow. I'm honestly speechless. I've had "pro-life vs. pro-choice" flamewars in my own journal, but they didn't approach this level of insanity.

I think my favorite part so far is, "How DARE you delete your comment after I've posted such personal things?!"

...

Oh, and I just refreshed the page.

Fuck, even my grandmother had to teach me the appropriate way to clean my vaginal area.

...my.

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	jerry_ds_girl 2003-06-08 10:15 am UTC (link)
	She couldn't figure that out on her own? And what does that have to do with being adopted? Jebus. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jerry_ds_girl 2003-06-08 10:24 am UTC (link)
	And her current logic seems to run: A. My biological family sucked B. My adopted family sucked. Therefore- C. I wish I had been aborted. Yeah, that sounds pretty rude, but, honest to God, that's the point she seems to be making. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	soy_latte 2003-06-08 05:48 pm UTC (link)
	I got the same impression. Damn she's a sad individual, what's worse is she seems proud of it in some twisted way. (Reply to this)(Parent)

uniquesnowflake
2003-06-08 10:28 am UTC (link)

The part that I find most endearing and wanktastic is that she spent multiple posts calling me out as a flaccid penis for deleting my post, when I had posted it again a few seconds later, after having deleted it for typoing "said" in a way thought might make me confusing.

Because weird typos are no reason to delete a post and repost it thirty seconds later! People don't refresh the page every thirty seconds, you know! I can't be held responsible for my own idiotic behavior just because you have a valid excuse!

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	beandelphiki 2003-06-08 10:47 am UTC (link)
	Whee, now she's quoting her IQ! It's such beautiful, beautiful wank. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

amasaglajax
2003-06-08 09:48 pm UTC (link)

IQ's so have jack shit to do with how intelligent someone is and really should never be quoted, because someone else always has a higher IQ. My kid brother, who is thirteen years old, has an IQ of 165 and gets Bs and Cs in school, but ask him the cheat code for controlling your enemies in Tenchu 3: Wrath of Heaven for Playstation 2 and he'll grab your controller and tap it out without a problem, never mind if he hasn't played the game in six months. Now THAT is a proper use of an IQ. XD

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	uniquesnowflake 2003-06-08 12:04 pm UTC (link)
	As my wonderful friend on LJ, zoisite84, quoted a day ago in a completely unrelated vagina-related thread; In the words of Margaret Cho, "My name is Gwen, and I'm here to wash your vagina." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	morganya 2003-06-08 10:42 am UTC (link)
	Maybe it's the bitch in me, but I have very low tolerance for people who use debate as an excuse to hemorrhage their horrible life history all over the screen. "I'm pro-choice and have I mentioned my adopted mother beat me and my birth mother probably would have beat me too? And Daddy never came to my soccer games, either!" Lord, get some therapy and shut the hell up. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	uniquesnowflake 2003-06-08 10:58 am UTC (link)
	When I was five, daddy put his fingers in my no-no spot on my bum, and when mommy yelled at him, he beat her up. My no-no spot hurt afterwards, and mommy cried and cried.... Now he dead from coke. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	morganya 2003-06-08 11:04 am UTC (link)
	Bwah! And this is why you should never, ever wear fur. (Reply to this)(Parent)

aruru
2003-06-08 11:23 am UTC (link)

Okay, lemme see if I got this right.. this person (as well as the others that stepped into her defense) thinks you're a pro-lifer trying to rain in on her little rant, when all you were doing was pointing out the nonsensical-ness of adding the whole pro-choice blurb to a discussion that DIDN'T INVOLVE THAT ISSUE?

Wow, some people on that thread seriously failed reading comprehension.

Hilarious shit, yo. Thumbs up!

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	uniquesnowflake 2003-06-08 11:33 am UTC (link)
	I'm not sure WHAT the fuck just happened in there, honestly, but I'm almost certain somebody blew up a family counceling building and it just splattered all over my computer screen.* *No offense to anybody out there who goes to it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

aruru
2003-06-08 11:42 am UTC (link)

You know, now that I think about it, you should totally submit this to LJDrama (assuming no one else has beaten you to the punch yet). It should be more than good enough for them, especially with all the TMIng this chick does (Still laughing at the grandma showing her how to clean her genitals here...)

(Oh, and since you're obviously awake, are you on AIM? I'm bored since all me buds left early, so must harass! >D -> SN = Kyokukou)

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	uniquesnowflake 2003-06-08 11:44 am UTC (link)
	I'm certainly on AIM, as FranklyFaggy. (Reply to this)(Parent)

rarrarrar
2003-06-08 08:02 pm UTC (link)

I must be the only person who didn't find that particularly wanky or even amusing.

All that jabber was just about three people being complete bitches for no reason whatsoever. Wank can be bitchy, but bitchy certainly isn't always wank, and to be perfectly honest, when I read it the first time I thought that Uniquesnowflake, as is her name here, was the one being wanked, for being so incredibly bitchy for no reason that I could think of. Even if someone spoke rationally to her, she was nothing but nasty. And then I find that she is the one everyone is SUPPORTING. Silly me.

Gee, I remember when fandom_wank was for people acting in an egocentric manner, not just for people being incredibly rude. How interesting.

I'm sure this statement is going to be wanked happily, too bad so sad. I'm aware the person in question wanked herself, and hey, cool for that. It's the people commenting that are just killing me, for defending her against people who only reacted in anger to her rudeness. If you walk up to someone and suddenly smack them in the face, how the hell do you expect them to react? With flowers and a candy heart? Please.

It's just not wank.

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uniquesnowflake
2003-06-08 08:55 pm UTC (link)

They reacted to my anger, or something? I corrected her after she went off on some tangent, and then she started to grind an axe on me because I DID correct her. They were the first ones to start flinging insults.

She quickly went off into multiple MORE tangents in which she insults me only for correcting on something that was suitably annoying and correctible in the first place, and generally acts like a complete moron.

She then proceeds to say we all suck, can't understand her, and basically, that she's by far superior to us because LIEK OMG her life sucked so badly and her grandma had to teach her how to clean her twat, and she had to wear *gasp* K-Mart clothes.

She's very egotistical and generally deluded. I think that her mindset is incredibly wanky.

Perhaps you somehow misread the comments, and you are, of course, fully entitled to your own (very wankily stated, here, as you alluded to yourself) opinions. However, you cannot honestly say that I am at fault, when she's clearly a, for lack of better words, self-important psycho bitch.

And just so you know, I'm very, very, very male. I was almost certain that this part was obvious, as I've stated it on multiple occassions in the post itself (and elsewhere), which leads me to wonder how closely you DID read it. Not being accusatory or anything, but, well, you did accuse me of being angry and rude, when I was clearly the one reacting to another's anger and rudeness.

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	rarrarrar 2003-06-08 09:54 pm UTC (link)
	I apologize for accusing you of being female. That is indeed a fangirl thing, we assume everyone is a girl. Aside from everything else, however, exactly what does this have to do with fandom? I mean, fandom_wank? Not just being bitchy? Sorry, I stand by my own wankiness. It was nothing but a bitchfest and not wanky in the least. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

uniquesnowflake
2003-06-08 10:03 pm UTC (link)

People have used non-fandomy wank in this community multiple times.

I would argue, though, that it IS fandom wankyness. The fandom being "u_make_lj_suck" itself, which is definitely a fandom (as is fandom_wank, also) and also disturbingly wanky.

The majority of those posts weren't about being bitchy. They were about one really whiny, obnoxious, weird girl. My post started out as informative. I started snarking at people after they because insulting, calling me named and basically telling me I was an asshole for pointing out that what they said was incorrect.

An attitude like techgirl's (or whatever her ID is) is definitely a wanky attitude. Not to mention seriously deluded and in need of help.

I'm not saying that I wasn't wholly unwanky, but I most certainly cannot be accused of being the transgressor in the post. I, to be frank, didn't start the psychotic shitflinging.

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aruru
2003-06-09 05:25 am UTC (link)

You know, I usually don't like to speculate too much, but I'm not certain this person should be taken too seriously - his/her account is registered today, and these are the only two posts the person has made. In fact, it's reminding me a whole lot of that "Fo 'Sho" person who tried to wank

misswindy a week or so back.

So yeah, I'm thinking possible axe-grinder.

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	Re: uniquesnowflake 2003-06-09 05:30 am UTC (link)
	Axe-Grinders suck. Sort of gave me somewhat of a WTF reaction. As in, "WTF! I'm not the psychobitch voluntarily telling people about my grandmother cleaning my vagina in a completely unrelated community!" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

rarrarrar
2003-06-09 05:41 am UTC (link)

Sigh.

You know, I wasn't going to say anything else, because we had both said our piece and pretty much agreed to disagree. I thought I was fairly polite in my previous comments, for all that they weren't positive. I didn't call anyone any names, other than saying they were bitchy, but then, I rather thought that was a compliment on fandom_wank. I haven't attacked anyone, other than saying I didn't think this was very wanky, which isn't exactly a personal attack. And I accidentally called you a girl, for which I apologized.

I started a journalfen account today because I didn't have one and I wanted to comment on this. You can't comment anonymously. I just want to say I'm not grinding an ax, or whatever. I don't have a clue who you are and I suspect if I had, I would have known you were a guy. I was stating my opinion, which I believe is still acceptable in this journal, just like you had the right to post the wank to begin with. I do thank you for being polite about it and actually talking reasonably when you could have just as easily blown me off.

Thanks.

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	rarrarrar 2003-06-09 05:52 am UTC (link)
	Actually, to be honest, the more I see you talking here, the more I'm thinking I overreacted. G Might as well be honest! I'm rather appreciating your reasonableness and seeing it's more and more possibly I misinterpreted what I read on the other LJ. I still don't think it has much to do with fandom, but I believe a lot less it was just about general bitchiness. (Reply to this)(Parent)

uniquesnowflake
2003-06-09 05:56 am UTC (link)

Let me say something here and now.

You don't insult a person in a post that was written in a seemingly purposefully condescending manner, and then, somehow, try to haughtily claim to have been polite and not attacking anyone.

Like you yourself said, you don't slap someone in the face and expect flowers.

I don't honestly care if you called me a woman. You were acting like an axe-grinder because you called me, a complete bitch, nasty, incredibly rude, ill-tempered, and rude, and for those one would expect an apology, if you're somehow claiming some weird sort of maturity/politeness highground.

You naturally have an ability to post your opinion in this journal, but posting an opinion doesn't mean you haven't acted like a contrary (I hate to use this word again)axe-grinder.

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rarrarrar
2003-06-09 06:27 am UTC (link)

Shrug.

Again, I find myself here when I meant to stop.

All right. You want an apology. I'm sorry. Looking back, I think I overreacted, which I just stated in another post. It's up to you whether you want to accept that or keep this going. You can think whatever you like about my retracting what I said, I am sorry that I was crueler than I meant to be on the matter. It's your call, now. Stick a fork in me, I'm done.

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	Damn iczer6 2003-06-09 12:15 am UTC (link)
	Damn I missed the wank! I keep getting the 'you are not authorized to view this' screen. Anyone have the 'special moments' saved? Icz (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: Damn moonjaguar 2003-06-09 02:16 am UTC (link)
	I personally liked the one where the girl told him something to the effect of "I suggest you leave before you taint this community". That made me giggle... how can anyone taint a bunch of whiners like the U Make LJ Suck crowd? They gave me a lancinating fundament migraine. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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