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mostlysober ([info]mostlysober) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-03-01 20:01:00


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The War, er, Wank of the Rings
It's a crying shame that I had to shorten this great piece of wank considerably, but if I hadn't done that we'd probably spend the next few weeks or so here. It's a looooong story, as it basically started back in October 2004. So here's Teh Gist.

This is in two parts; Part 1 is a "short" history of events leading up to the wankiness that was this past weekend, which you can read all about in Part 2.

PART 1

I suppose most of you know TORC, short for TheOneRing.Com (not to be confused with TheOneRing.Net, or "TORN") and now located on TolkienOnline.Com. It's a big messageboard for Tolkien fans and LotR geeks with over 40,000 registered members. TORC is a "family-friendly site", as they state in their Vision: Our vision for Tolkien Online is to be a welcoming and family-friendly place for fans of J. R. R. Tolkien. We encourage continuous renewal of discussions for the benefit of new members and readers. We have worked hard to create what we believe is a place that even Professor Tolkien himself may have been inclined to visit because of our high standards regarding civility and integrity in discussion, news reporting, and other materials inspired by Tolkien's works.

Note the part where it says, "a place that even Prof. Tolkien himself may have been inclined to visit".

At sometime during the second half of 2004, the two founders (Jon and Ted) who had also served as messageboard admins decided to semi-retire from active messageboard duty and promoted two former mods to serve as admins. Jon and Ted were rarely ever seen modding the boards. Yet as the two ex-mods-now-admins continued to mod heavily and as there no longer was a "higher authority" to appeal to when posters felt they were being treated unjustly, the atmosphere on TORC changed somewhat. It didn't help that one of the new admins' standard line when dealing with posters on the boards turned out to be, "Drop this or you and I are gonna have issues". Professor Tolkien, a fan of high standards regarding civility and integrity in discussion, would have felt right at home.


In October 2004, a group of 36 TORC posters, many of them long-standing members with no former warnings, drafted a petition and emailed it to the founders. They had kept it off the boards because "Board Disruption" is a violation of the Terms of Service of TORC and thus a bannable offense, and the petition was only to initiate an open discussion between members and staff anyways. They proposed two things: 1) that there be a proper appeal process when an admin acts as moderator, to ensure that there be "division of powers" and a higher authority, ideally not directly involved in everyday modding, to appeal to, 2) since "sexual innuendo" is a bannable offense that it be taken into account that posters with English as their second language may not always be aware of innuendo-y use of words.

The official reply to this petition, in short, was pretty much "Nope. STFU up and leave if you don't like it here", and I'm willing to bet my ass that Professor Tolkien would have said pretty much the same in that situation.


Then in December, one of the signers of the original petition was banned over a dispute with one of the admin.

The poster in question asked for clarification re: innuendo on the boards, as one of the admins had commented that "you seem to have a thing about size" in one of his posts. The reply:



A few posts later crispycreme stated, "Well guess what, you've just pissed your last lifeline."

From the already mentioned Terms of Service of TORC: "Flaming" or personal attacks are not permitted on Tolkien Online. Disagreement is not the same as attack. We are people of varied opinions, and will naturally disagree at times. A certain amount of "thick skin" is necessary in any internet forum. Do not take a strong statement of opinion as an attack. But attacks on another poster (as opposed to their argument) violate these Terms of Service. A poster who engages in such personal attacks may be banned from the forums. Personal attack may be defined as any behavior designed to make a poster feel unwelcome on the forum. This would include, for example, racial, ethnic, religious, and sexual slurs, or scorn directed at another poster, or attempts to drive another poster off the message board. Threads with the purpose of criticising or insulting another poster will be removed.

As the poster banned over this was well-known on TORC, shit ---> fan after that. Several posters, most of whom had never heard about the petition before, protested against what seemed like a member being banned for disagreeing with an admin on the boards. I guess they thought Professor Tolkien wouldn't have approved of that...? If you have a lot of time on your hands, start reading here.


To complicate things, the 36 original signers of the petition had started a little messageboard of their own way back in October when petition-related group emails became too numerous to handle and mailboxes gave out.

As many of the petition people had indeed left TORC after the officials' reply to the petition, their absence didn't go unnoticed on TORC and other TORC regulars wanted to keep in touch with them and were invited to join That Other Board.

The board, called Board77, now has more than 100 members.

Moving on to recent events: PART 2

Friday, February 25. In this thread on TORC, b77 comes up and a mod states:

But if you mean the other board mentioned in this thread then please feel free to bring it up, if that is, it's for discussion purposes with all opinions being expressed, what we would not approve of is using our boards to obtain members for a competitor board - to be honest you wouldn't expect to hand out flyers for one supermarket in another would you?

The discussion is moved to a new thread, and a poster replies: Soooo, people who post on b77 can't invite our friends over there to post with us? Especially if we no longer post on TORC but would like to keep in contact with people we love?

Next up: Shitstorm of D00m. Ted, one of the founders, posts in reply to that:

No, Not on my board you can't. Via email, yes, via AIM, via smoke signals, via fecal matter rubbed on the walls in your bathroom, sure (but you might need to talk to some nice men in white uniforms if that happens), but on my board, with my bandwidth, and with my resources. NO.

And why is this, becuase the sky is purple and the toads are licking my toes. I really don't need to have a reason other than I don't like it.


And Professor Tolkien wept. (Sorry, couldn't resist bolding the whole thang.)

A few posts later, the thread gets locked. Do yourselves a favor and read the last two posts (link) in that thread, again by Ted. A quote:

I desire a new Age here on TORC. An age of peace and discussion. An age not unlike the seond and third ages of TORC. And I will have it. This age will either be ushered in through the gates of peace with an understanding of the simple guidelines we have here or it will be ushered in through the gates of war. And it will be a war unlike we have had here at TORC.

Now we all know that Professor Tolkien wrote like, books on wars, so I guess we're on the safe side there.

A few hours later, 18 (so far) TORC posters get banned indefinitely, most of them obviously for mentioning b77 on TORC, and one for quoting Lao Tsu. That? Pretty much my favorite part so far.

Just to give you an idea what sort of posters were banned, here are three random threads started by members banned from TORC over the last weekend:

Tolkien's Moral Universe
M00bies read the Silmarillion
Of Tolkien's Sub-creation, Actual Reality, and Peter Jackson's Films

Wouldn't wanna have 'em on my board either.

Ted makes an Announcement, in full "WTF IT'S MY SITE AND I CAN DO WITH IT WHAT THE FUCK I WANT *RAGE*" mode: Behold, the parable of the vineyard owner and his son. Followed by an "Official response to all threads regarding the current issue".

Must go get more popcorn.


EDIT: And someone wrote a parody:

The Parable of the Feces on the Walls

SCENE: SOME IDYLLIC VINEYARD

VINEYARD OWNER: Hi. I'm your vineyard owner for tonight, and this is my vineyard. I will become important later on in the story.

VINEYARD OWNER'S SON: Hi. I'm the vineyard owner's son, and I'm a walking, talking metaphor. I too will become important later on in the story. And I predict that I will die a gruesome death and that my dying scene will be quite heart-wrenching and I know the Oscars are over but I'll still do my best for you, I promise.

VINEYARD OWNER: . . .



SCENE: TORC MESSAGEBOARD. A WEEKEND NIGHT.

TALK POSTERS: *post*

MANWE POSTERS: *socialize in socializing thread*

M00BIES POSTERS: *post in, um, theme month thread*

B77: *is being mentioned*

TPTB: *NOT AMUSED*



SCENE: MANWE THREAD ON TORC

TED: Knock it off.

ESTEL: Hm?

TED: Knock. It. Off.

ESTEL: Butbutbut! I'm not doing anything wrong, I just want to invite my friends to post with me on another messageboard if they want to, and--

TED: STFU, N00B!!

ESTEL: . . .

TED: FECES! ON WALLS! ON BATHROOM WALLS, NO LESS! I MEAN! SMEAR YOUR FECES ALL OVER YOUR WALLS IF YOU HAVE THE ITCH BUT KEEP IT OFF MY WALLS, MY MESSAGEBOARD, AND MY VINEYARD!!!1

MANWE POSTERS: Ooooh-kay?

VINEYARD OWNER: Um, dude? That comes later.

TED: Oh. Sorry 'bout that.

VINEYARD OWNER'S SON: *headdesk*



SCENE: TALK FORUM

ALYS: I love you, laureanna.

LAUREANNA: . . .

ALYS: Um! I mean, you know, glad to see you.

LAUREANNA: . . .

SILENCE: *is uncomfortable*

ALYS: Um. Hey? Wanna talk about the weather?

LAUREANNA: The um, Shitstorm on TORC?

B77ERS: *snerk*

LAUREANNA: Yeah. Actually, I'd rather not in this thread.

ALYS: . . .



SCENE: TORC'S CATACOMBS OF ARBITRARINESS

TED: Let's hunt some orc.

JONATHAN: *?*

TED: Er. I mean, let's ban some ass.

JONATHAN: Yeah.

TED: Yeah.

JONATHAN: Totally.

TED: Yeah.

JONATHAN: I smell B77er flesh.

IE: Um, guys? Clichéd, kinda.

VINEYARD OWNER: You'll notice that I haven't really been in this story much so far, but I'll become really important later on, so...

VINEYARD OWNER'S SON: And watch for my death scene. It'll be worth it, I promise.

TED: . . .



SCENE: TORC

LAUREANNA: *gets banned*

TED: *does not send an explaining email*

LAUREANNA: Ooooh-kay?

TORC POSTERS: *bitchcomplainWTF?!*

VINEYARD OWNER: Any minute now, I believe.

TORC POSTERS: Okay, so what's happening?

TORC POSTERS WHO ARE ALSO B77 POSTERS: This isn't really the time to say that we saw this coming, but we saw this coming.

POSTERS IN MANWE SOCIALIZING THREAD: So, what on earth is happening?

M00BIES POSTERS: Not to be redundant, but what the eff is happening?

FECES: *are so totally on bathroom walls*

TORC POSTERS: No, seriously. WHAT THE BLEEP IS HAPPENING?

FECES: *like, all over*

SOME B77ERS: OMG LET'S OPEN OUR BOARD OMG.

OTHER B77ERS: Er. No?

YET OTHER B77ERS: Let's start a poll on that, just in case!

VINEYARD OWNER: While we're waiting for my scene to come on, let me just say that next time you're in the area, do feel free to drop by for a sip of wine.

TORC POSTERS: So, any word on what's happening yet?

TED: RRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRRRRRRRRRR I'LL BAN YOU AAAALLLLLLLLL!! Also? Law is the reestablishment of justice, and justice is the process of righting wrongs.

TORC POSTERS: Ooooh-kay?

TORC POSTERS WHO ARE ALSO B77 POSTERS: Okay, we totally did not see that one coming.

SHIT: *hits fan*

TED: *bans everybody and their table lamp*

TORC POSTERS: . . .

B77ERS: Eh...

INNOCENT BYSTANDERS: *shocked*

FECES: *everywhere*

TED: I BAAAAAAAN YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLL!!11

INNOCENT BYSTANDERS: *get banned*

FECES: *like, ALL over the place*

VINEYARD OWNER: *leafs through script*

TED: *still banning everybody and their table lamp*

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: *would prefer to see the focus of attention shift from feces to like, vineyards or something*

TED: FECES! ON BATHROOM WALLS, I TELL YOU! BUT NOT ON MINE! NOT! ON! MINE!

VINEYARD OWNER: *calls agent*

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: No, seriously. Vineyards? Please? Somebody?

TORCERS: . . .

B77ERS: *spam the crap out of their board*



SCENE: TORC'S THE ONE RING FORUM OF OFFICIAL DECISIONS, SUBTITLED: OFFICIAL VINEYARD FORUM

TED: So. Laws? Reestablishment of justice. Which coincidentally happens to be the process of righting wrongs.

POSTER #1: Yeah. Only... not really?

FECES (on walls): Please oh please don't enrage him further. PLEASE.

TED: Anyway. There was this vineyard once--

VINEYARD OWNER: YUSS!!

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: Thank. You.

TED: --and it was owned by this vineyard owner.

VINEYARD OWNER: That would be me.

TED: And he rented the vineyard to some tenants.

TENANTS: *wave into camera*

TED: And then he went away on a journey.

TORC POSTERS: This better be going somewhere.

VINEYARD OWNER: A long journey.

TED: And when the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to collect the fruit of the vineyard.

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: This is where you wanna pay attention.

POSTER #2: But why would he be entitled to collect the fruit of the vineyard? I mean, he rented it to the tenants, didn't he?

POSTER #3: And then he went away on a journey.

POSTER #4: And why would Ted, who did not care about TORC the community enough to regularly participate in it, expect his tenants to surrender to him the fruit of said community?

POSTER #5: You mean vineyard owner. And vineyard. You rebel.

POSTER #4: Oops. Yes, vineyard.

POSTER #6: I'm fairly surprised he even remembers he's growing vine in that vineyard, not avocadoes or something.

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: Look, can we...?

TED: And the tenants beat one servant, killed another, and stoned the third.

POSTER #7: That must have been some really decent wine those people were having then.

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: If anyone mentions feces right now, I'll be royally pissed.

TED: So he sent his son to them.

VINEYARD OWNER'S SON: That's me!

POSTER #8: Can I just say, REALLY st00pfid move?

POSTER #9: Totally.

POSTER #7: I'm guessing he was drunk?

POSTER #10: Or high.

POSTER #11: Or distracted by the feces on the walls?

POSTER #12: Let's put this to a vote! Let the majority decide what he was on, and/or distracted by.

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: LISTEN, PEOPLE. IT'S A PARABLE, DAMMIT! IT'S NOT A STUDY IN THE SCIENCE OF LOGIC!

TORC POSTERS: Oh good then. Absolutely helpful at this point in time where people want to know WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.

TED: And so his son went to the tenants.

POSTER #13: Probably glad to get away from drunk and high dad.

TED: . . .

VINEYARD OWNER'S SON: Can you see me alright from where you're standing? Watch for my big death scene now. It's gonna be great. Really.

POSTER #12: Now, the thing you need to know about me...

TED: And they killed him.

VINEYARD OWNER'S SON: *dies*

POSTER #8: Now that's a surprise.

POSTER #12: Actually? They didn't kill him.

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: Oh dear Gawd.

VINEYARD OWNER'S SON: What?

POSTER #12: I did.

VINEYARD OWNER: You did?

VINEYARD OWNER'S SON: She did?

TENANTS: *wave into camera*

POSTER #12: I did.

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: This is not happening to me.

POSTER #12: I killed the vineyard owner's son.

POSTER #3: You shouldn't have. You absolutely shouldn't have done that. We hadn't voted on that one yet.

POSTER #12: I'm also Spartacus.

VINEYARD OWNER: Hang on... She did?

TED: Hey, before I forget? Let me also mention that this is now a war, etc. etc.

TORC POSTERS: Yeah, with feces. We got that part.

METAPHORICAL SUBTEXT: And after tonight, just so you know? You're totally alone on that one there, buddy.

TENANTS: *wave into camera*


SMASH CUT TO:

IDYLLIC VINEYARD

The vineyard owner and his son arrive back home after a hard day's work. No tenants in sight. Crickets chirping. Tumbleweed rolls by. Cue lonely wind.


FADE OUT



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(Anonymous)
2005-03-01 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Oy. Here's some even more delightful GAFF wank, if anyone wants to write it up:

http://www.godawful.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8575

GAFFers are self-righteous, but the Pixies are pretty damn pervy in my humble opinion. Won't someone please think of the children?

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[info]cpip
2005-03-01 09:53 pm UTC (link)
It's always best when BOTH sides are wanking frothily.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-03-01 09:57 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-03-02 01:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ethelbert, 2005-03-02 03:00 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-03-01 09:46 pm UTC (link)
Hi there, anonymouse Ketsuban here. Just thought I'd point out something that I'm surprised isn't already here:

http://www.livejournal.com/community/fanficrants/508044.html

Yay for Harry Potter wank!

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(no subject) - [info]isntitironic, 2005-03-01 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-03-01 11:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-03-02 01:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-03-02 03:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]suzywongdress, 2005-03-01 11:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tyraarane_, 2005-03-02 12:19 am UTC

[info]mistressrenet
2005-03-01 09:50 pm UTC (link)
"Well guess what, you've just pissed your last lifeline."

Family-friendly. Uh-huh.

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-03-02 12:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]platypus, 2005-03-02 01:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-03-02 03:56 am UTC

[info]ashenmote
2005-03-01 09:56 pm UTC (link)
via fecal matter rubbed on the walls in your bathroom, sure (but you might need to talk to some nice men in white uniforms if that happens)

Wow, Tolkien and bathroom, that's just...GIP.

And if I had to choose the character most likely to approach a moderation job the way displayed here, I'd pick Denethor.

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(no subject) - [info]tyraarane_, 2005-03-02 12:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]goldberry, 2005-03-02 12:49 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-03-05 05:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]goldberry, 2005-03-06 09:05 am UTC

[info]llama_treats
2005-03-01 09:57 pm UTC (link)
You broke my scrolling finger.

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-01 10:06 pm UTC (link)
The parable about the vineyard owner and his son is usually construed to be about....God and Jesus.

So, either this mod has a SERIOUS superiority complex, or he's too stupid for literate subtext.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 01:07 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 03:00 am UTC
seconds the scrolling complaint
[info]ashenmote
2005-03-01 10:09 pm UTC (link)
Using a smaller version of the screencap, like this would be terribly nice.

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Re: seconds the scrolling complaint - [info]mostlysober, 2005-03-01 10:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-03-01 10:17 pm UTC
Re: seconds the scrolling complaint - [info]pokecheck, 2005-03-04 01:13 am UTC

[info]mirabellawotr
2005-03-01 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Administrators: Run the software that the software that runs the site and the forums. You are expected to define the exact meaning to what is an ethos of caring and what would upset the good professor.

I'm trying hard, here, but all I'm getting out of this one is that Tolkien would be pissed off by down time, and I'm not sure where I stand on that. I do think he was probably pretty annoyed by incomprehensible writing, though.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 02:44 am UTC

[info]ereshkigal
2005-03-01 11:43 pm UTC (link)
I'd pay good money to see a cage match to the death between the staff of TORC and Television Without Pity.

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-03-02 12:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mostlysober, 2005-03-02 12:45 am UTC
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dodyskin
2005-03-02 02:07 am UTC (link)
DODYSKIN: *dies laughing*
DODYSKIN: *rises from the dead*
DODYSKINv1.2: *smears link across teh internets*

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*eyerolling*
(Anonymous)
2005-03-02 02:43 am UTC (link)
As far as I can see, they're all a bunch of pretentious assholes. It's these kinds of people that make the rest of us more relaxed Tolkien fans want to stuff ourselves back in the closet. It's just a BOOK, for cryin' out loud, not history or brain surgery or the saving of countless lives. No wonder this fandom has a reputation for insane geekery.

To quote Hedley Lamar, "Gentlemen, gentlemen, please! Unclench your sphincters!"

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Re: *eyerolling* - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 02:49 am UTC
Re: *eyerolling* - [info]shadownlite, 2005-03-02 03:26 am UTC
Re: *eyerolling* - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 01:58 pm UTC
Re: *eyerolling* - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 11:11 pm UTC
Re: *eyerolling* - (Anonymous), 2005-03-03 05:09 pm UTC

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[info]backfromspace
2005-03-02 08:17 am UTC (link)
Lord of the Rings. The fandom with menfolk.

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-02 08:54 am UTC (link)
tl;dr

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[info]pokecheck
2005-03-02 08:57 am UTC (link)
Now I have...

...smearing feces on the wall, that don't bother me at all...

stuck in my head. Soooooo not-yay.

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(no subject) - [info]azrhiaz, 2005-03-02 09:32 pm UTC
Thank god, an explanation finally.
(Anonymous)
2005-03-02 11:00 am UTC (link)
Honestly. I've been on Tolkien Online since 1999, though I mostly lurk, with occasional bursts of activity. People who say the boards have declined are absolutely right - not because of the quality of posters (I'm not about to break out THAT oldbie classic) but because the Admins appear to have absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves and their moderators.

I wasn't around over the weekend, and log in today to find that all hell had broken loose while I wasn't looking. I can't say I'm surprised, they've been ignoring people's concerns for too long for something not to hit the fan. Still, just try finding out from the actual TolkienOnline boards what's happened. You can see much Admin whining and blathering - together with more mentions of 'love and caring' than my stomach can handle this early in the morning - but no actual explanation without much digging.

Oh. If anyone here is Linsul Songbreeze - thanks for posting your thread in Talk. It was the only thing on those boards that shed any light on what was going on. Frankly, I'm disgusted now that I've seen the list of people banned. Talk about overreacting.

Pissed-off TolkienOnline occasional poster.

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Re: Thank god, an explanation finally. - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 11:25 am UTC
Re: Thank god, an explanation finally. - (Anonymous), 2005-04-11 08:19 am UTC

[info]ebbrowning
2005-03-02 06:08 pm UTC (link)
A lovely wank.
Thank you.

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-02 07:26 pm UTC (link)
That was great! Thanks for making my morning. And thanks for doing such a poetic, succinct job on my banning.
- Laureanna

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The Comments of the Uninitiated
(Anonymous)
2005-03-02 08:10 pm UTC (link)
Well now, isn't easy to make assumptions based on what you read here on fandomwank (a journal designed for people to moan). I mean who wants to actually take the time to find out what really happened? Who wants to know the history of those posters who for years have expected the rules to be bent for them, adapted for their "in jokes", and at the very least attacked other forum members and staff? No that would mean that their actions would be found in breach of the TOS and then justify their banning.

Oh Dear! We can't have that now can we?

I suggest those wishing to pass judgment here take the time to do the research into the past few years of posting by all concerned before they comment on what is a biased, vendetta type post against the Staff of TORC

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Re: The Comments of the Uninitiated - (Anonymous), 2005-03-02 08:55 pm UTC
Re: The Comments of the Uninitiated - [info]ashenmote, 2005-03-02 09:09 pm UTC
Re: The Comments of the Uninitiated - (Anonymous), 2005-03-03 01:00 am UTC
Re: The Snark of the Uninterested - (Anonymous), 2005-03-03 01:34 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-03-03 06:21 am UTC (link)
Member of TORC here. First wanted to say huge kudos to Linsul for posting your thread. I caught the crossforum "board77dotcom" postings before they were swiftly deleted, but I'm glad to see that others had a chance to see your thread. I'm deeply surprised that your thread wasn't removed, but very very glad that it remains, however locked.

Thanks for the laugh, whoever wrote that parody. That sharp clink I hear is the nail being hit directly on the head. ;)

The actions of certain folks in power have shot a bullet directly into the heart of TORC. Even if the bans are removed, it won't do any good IMO unless an apology is given to each and every banned member over this, besides those who specifically asked for it (who I admire for their bold actions).

As soon as B77 opens up to the public, I'm there.

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-03 02:37 pm UTC (link)
Another '99er here and I have to say that the quality of those boards has decreased in direct proportion to the increase in size of Ted, Jon and InnocentEvil's egos. The Ted and Jon of 1999 and even 2000 would have been apalled by InnocentEvil and CrispyCreme's behavior as mods and admins, but something happened somewhere along the line and they turned into the very kind of people Tolkien would have been horrified by.

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*WAAAAAA!!*
(Anonymous)
2005-03-03 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Boo-frecking-hoo. So you're upset about a website on the internet? Wow. Must be nice not to have any *real* concerns in your life.

Here's a clue, Sparky - grow up, move out of you're mother's basmement, get a real date, and maybe a job, and stop diddling yourself while thinking of Legolas.

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*is cheered*
(Anonymous)
2005-03-04 01:37 am UTC (link)
LMAO!
Too late at night for any real comment. Linsul, I know you said you were pissed off on KoL, but I'm surprised he didn't ban your arse off for posting this link! Whose is this page anyway? The parody smacks of Lidless, correct me if I'm wrong.
Thankyou all for cheering me up. =^_^=

*~Pips~*

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Re: *is cheered* - (Anonymous), 2005-03-04 02:24 pm UTC
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The Vision
(Anonymous)
2005-03-07 02:00 pm UTC (link)
I guess it's only funny if you know the personalities involved…


The Vision – Part 1




(Cellular ringing)

Halplm: Yeah.

Jnyusa: Is everything in place?

Halplm: You weren't supposed to relieve me.

Jnyusa: I know, but I felt like taking your shift.

Halplm: You like him, don't you? You like watching him.

Jnyusa: Don't be ridiculous.

Halplm: We're going to get him banned, do you understand that?

Jnyusa: Lidless believes he is The Faithful.

Halplm: Do you?

Jnyusa: It doesn't matter what I believe.

Halplm: You don't, do you?

Jnyusa: Did you hear that?

Halplm: Hear what?

Jnyusa: Are you sure this toilet is clean?

Halplm: Yeah, 'course I'm sure.

Jnyusa: I better go.

(Hotel room)
Mod: Freeze, Mods. Hands on your head. Do it. Do it now.

(Street)
IE: crispy...

Crispy: Oh shit.

IE: Crispy, you were given specific orders.

Crispy: Hey, I'm just doing my job. You give me that juris-my-dick-tion crap, you can cram it up your ass. But not in a homosexual rape way, you understand.

IE: The orders were for your protection.

Crispy: I think we can handle one little girl.... I sent two mods. They're bringing her down now.

IE: No Crispy, your mods are already dead.

(Hotel room)
Jnyusa: Lidless, the YM was traced, I don't know how.

Lidless: I know, they cut the hard line. There's no time, you're going to have to get to another exit.

Jnyusa: Are there any mods?

Lidless: Yes.

Jnyusa: Goddammit.

Lidless: You have to focus, Jnyusa. There's an internet cafe at Wells and Lake. You can make it.

Jnyusa: All right.

Lidless: Go.

(Rooftop)
Mod: That's impossible.

(Building)
Jnyusa: Reboot Jnyusa. Just reboot. Reboot.

(Street)
Eluchil: She got out.

IE: It doesn't matter.

Threadstalker: The informant is real.

IE: Yes.

Threadstalker: We have the name of their next target.

Eluchil: The name is Voronwe.

IE: We'll need a search running.

Threadstalker: It's already begun.

(Voronwe's apartment. His computer screen is flashing ‘Wake up Voronwe. TORC has you’.)

Voronwe: What? What the hell?... Follow the link?
(knock at the door) Who is it?

Anthriel: It's Anthriel.

Voronwe: Yeah. Yeah. You're two hours late.

Anthriel: I know, it's her fault.

Voronwe: You got the money?

Anthriel: Two grand.

Voronwe: Hold on.

(Voronwe hands over a movie dissertation)

Anthriel: Hallelujah. You're my savior, man. My own personal Jesus Christ.

Voronwe: You get caught using that...

Anthriel: Yeah, I know. This never happened. You don't exist.

Voronwe: Right.

Anthriel: Something wrong, man? You look a little whiter than usual.

Voronwe: My computer, it... You ever have that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?

Anthriel: Mm, all the time. It's called TORn. It's the only way to fly. Hey, it just sounds to me like you need to unplug, man. You know, get some R and R. What do you think, Tooks? Should we take him with us?

Tooks: Definitely.

Voronwe: No, I can't, I got work tomorrow.

Tooks: Come on, It'll be fun. I promise.

Voronwe: Yeah, sure, I'll go.

(Club)
Jnyusa: Hello Voronwe.

Voronwe: How do you know that name?

Jnyusa: I know a lot about you.

Voronwe: Who are you?

Jnyusa: My name is Jnyusa.

Voronwe: Jnyusa. The Jnyusa? The one that cracked the Philosophy Forum?

Jnyusa: That was a long time ago.

Voronwe: Jesus.

Jnyusa: What?

Voronwe: I just thought, um...you were a guy.

Jnyusa: Most guys do.

Voronwe: That was you on my computer. How did you do that?

Jnyusa: Right now all I can tell you is that you're in danger. I brought you here to warn you.

Voronwe: Of what?

Jnyusa: They're watching you, Voronwe.

Voronwe: Who is?

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The Vision - Part 2 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:01 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 3 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:05 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 4 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:06 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 5 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:07 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 6 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:08 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 7 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:09 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 8 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:10 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 9 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:11 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 10 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:13 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 11 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:14 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 12 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:15 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 13 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:16 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 14 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:17 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 15 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:18 pm UTC
The Vision - Part 16 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-07 02:19 pm UTC
Re: The Vision - Part 16 - (Anonymous), 2005-03-23 05:39 am UTC


 
   
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