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Pan ([info]panthea) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-03-04 00:58:00


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Current mood: high

So sayeth the fangirls.
I don't know what it is, but lately the house_md community over on LJ has become a hotbed of idiocy and wank.

Today-- well, yesterday, now-- [info]bardvahalla felt the need to post this screed:


(Crossed posted to the Official Site)

Dear Writers of House,

I don’t know your names and have no interest in looking them up. Don’t take this personally. It’s just that the last time I became emotionally involved in a TV show (X-Files) I had a rather rough time dealing with it when Darin Morgan left.

I know you guys/girls read the board. I know you do. Judging from the amount of ‘squeeling fangirls’ here you may have the impression that the ‘squeeling fangirls’ make up the majority of your audience and you may feel tempted to cater to their twisted desires just to see them squirm.

Don’t.

“Squeeling fangirls’ are the most VOCAL part of your audience, but that does not mean they are in the majority.

Don’t give in to them.
No matter how whiney and manipulative they get.
Trust me on this.

I’ll try to get my point acroos before I start to ramble too much.
Look, the show is named HOUSE. House is a bastard. He’s an arrogant, flawed, unsympathetic BASTARD. The conflict he generates is the driving force behind this show. I like House because he’s an “in yer face”, right nasty piece of work. I like not knowing too much about him. Keep House a mysterious character. If we know too much about him then our interest will wane. If you tell us too much about him and/or gradually turn him into some ‘romance’ figure and/or ‘jump the shark’ by having him land a airplane that’s on fire or some damn thing simply because the vocal ‘squeeling fangirls’ portion of your audience demands it, you will LOSE your main audience.

House (as I am sure you are aware) is an anti-social son of a bitch. THAT’s what make’s him hot to the ‘squeeling fangirls” That “bad boy” thing. Make him nastier, more confrontational, more snarky and less sympathetic. Don’t tell us why he is the way he is. Be brutal. For GOD’S sake keep his clothes on because as soon as he starts humping someone his character will start to die a slow death.

Conflict and interest. Think about that. Having a show where the main character isn’t shagging anyone is a fresh new idea. By all means, have him leer at porn or make lascivious references to pendulous breasts, but DON’T wrap a story line around some goopy relationship. Keep him on ice. He’s far more interesting that way.

Be contradictory.
Mess with our minds.

Besides, the audience will love you for it.
Especially the “squeeling fangirls” because that’s REALLY what they want.
They just don’t know it.

Inevitably you will write a “House gets critically ill, lies dying and angst-ridden” episode and his staff will have to save him. Save it for the LAST episode and then let him die.

I’m serious. Kill him off in the end.
Burn the House down rather than let it fall into a bathering ‘squeeling fangirl’ driven shambles.

Good luck.

BARD

P.S.
Please do not screw this up.
You have a winner here.


I don't know what's wankier-- the dictatorial tone, the overwhelming sense of superiority, or the fact that she's disabled comments.

Alas, this latter fact means it's not likely to grow. So I suggest we all simply enjoy it for what it is: a tiny, perfect microcosm of wank.

ETA: Aha! She's graciously taking comments here. There's growth potential!



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[info]25th_of_april
2005-03-04 08:14 am UTC (link)
*loves you for posting this here*

Seriously? I just don't even know where to start with that. Writers have done dumb shit in the past, but I still think they deserve a littler more credit than she's giving them.

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-07 08:11 am UTC (link)
I don't know about that. After all, she is commenting on a completely crap show. Every week every other person on the planet is trying to outright KILL the patient in question and House is the ONLY doctor interested in stopping this. How idiotic! Perhaps the real problem here is that her IQ has been lowered just by watching this garbage...

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[info]25th_of_april
2005-03-07 08:17 am UTC (link)
Now, this may seem like it's coming out of left field, and I apologize if this is just way too crazy a suggestion for you, but if you hate the show that much maybe, and I know this is radical, you should stop watching it. Believe me, it'll be a lot less stress in your life.

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-04 08:25 am UTC (link)
You ought to have mentioned that she inspired another person to post their 'letter to the writers'--and that person proudly declares, "I represent the "everyday" women of America."

And apparently the "everyday" women of America don't use spaces after their punctuation.

At all.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/house_md/98606.html

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-04 01:14 pm UTC (link)
Not only does sierram not know how to use the space key after punctuation, neither does her sockpuppet staunch supporter, hsbrokenaddict...nor the anonymous that posts in support as well...

-cheese enabler

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[info]kate74
2005-03-04 03:04 pm UTC (link)
I'm just boggling at "you found in gem in this man [Hugh Laurie]"

Ri...ght

Cos he's new to this "being on tv" thing

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[info]telophase
2005-03-04 07:02 pm UTC (link)
Which reminds me ... Netflix was kind enough to send me DVD 2 of Season 4 of 'Jeeves and Wooster'. w00t!

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flightstothesea
2005-03-05 08:49 am UTC (link)
What is this Jeeves and Wooster business I keep hearing about? I've read Wodehouse, and I'd be interested to see this series (?).

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[info]panthea
2005-03-05 06:19 pm UTC (link)
It was a British series starring Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie.

So yes. You should see it. *g*

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[info]telophase
2005-03-06 04:25 am UTC (link)
What [info]panthea said. It's a BBC production, and IIRC, sort of mixes-and-matches the books and short stories. Stephen Fry as Jeeves and Hugh Laurie as Wooster.

If you've got Netflix, they have all 4 seasons (I think there were only 4 seasons) on DVD. If not, well, you can probably order them somewhere or hope that you've got a really good video rental place around. :)

I enjoy them quite a lot, but it's also been a very long time since I read them, so I don't remember any of the stories, so whatever liberties have been taken, I am completely oblivious to them.

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-04 11:53 pm UTC (link)
She seems to be building a sockpuppet army. She createdrecruited paging_dr_house

-M.

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[info]stellabymoor
2005-03-05 04:20 am UTC (link)
another one? diagnose_this seems to be a shit-slinging cunt sockpuppet.

as much as this new fandom wanks, I'm lovin' it now.

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[info]wrenlet
2005-03-05 06:03 am UTC (link)
You are observant! But no I am not all 3,but several people here use the same computer!And I do the editing as *a few can't spell*,so the punctuation may look similar!But the same GOD noooo!

Oh my monkey-fucking God. How stupid is this person does this person think we ARE??

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[info]cesare
2005-03-04 08:35 am UTC (link)
Shorter Bardvahalla: "Hi! I'm a big fan of your show! Don't do what your fans tell you to do, mkay? Don't give them what they say they want, or you'll ruin the show. Except ME! Listen to ME! Give me what I want! Ignore everyone else but ME and make the show to MY specifications, kthx!"

Wank.y. And I even agree with her on some of those things. I'd rather House never got all sympathetic and cuddly. I thought X-Files went wayyyy downhill in its latter years too.

But guess what? The decline of X-Files had damn little to do with the writers trying to give the audience what the audience claimed to want... and a lot more to do with Chris Carter's ego, self-importance, and splitting the overtaxed writing staff between X-Files and other projects (*cough*Millennium*cough*).

'Squeeling' fangirls didn't beg for the X-Files mythology episodes to metastasize into an inconsistent mess. Nobody asked for Scully to become uberCatholic and bizarrely uptight. Nobody asked for Mulder to lose his detective skills in favor of becoming a small-screen thuggish action hero. Nobody clamored for Doggett and what'shername.

There are a lot of things that can make a long-term work of fiction like a television show go off the rails. None of those things are likely to be effectively countered by some random fan saying "It'll all stay great if you just do it MY way!"

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[info]pope_shane
2005-03-04 09:09 am UTC (link)
But, MillenniuM was the superior show (until season 3, when the squealing X-philes demanded it become more X-Files-y).

Dont tell me it wasnt, because I will cry.

(Yes, I was a huge X-Files fan too, but I (like 98% of everyone else) buggered off when the T1000 showed up)

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[info]delcj
2005-03-04 09:15 am UTC (link)
while i'm not perfectly sure about MillenniuM being the superior show, i do know that i love it more now than i loved The X-Files. maybe it's because The X-Files doesn't need any more 'squeeling fangirls' whereas MillenniuM needs more fans, period.

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[info]panthea
2005-03-04 09:24 am UTC (link)
Oh, me too, I definitely agree with the sentiment. In fact, I'd be perfectly happy if House never had a romantic relationship at all. House/Vicodin OTP 4EVAH! (Vicodin does inhibit the sex drive....) And I'd hate to see him lose his prickly edges, too. He'd probably be happier... I wouldn't.

And yet. ::points, laughs::

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[info]stellabymoor
2005-03-04 06:37 pm UTC (link)
nuh, House/demerol otp cuz u r a poopyhead.

as much as I like House/Wilson, it's just. not. going. to. happen.

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[info]panthea
2005-03-04 07:46 pm UTC (link)
More's the pity.

As far as canon's concerned, I could maybe see House having a long-term unrequited want for Wilson, but that's just the between-scenes movie in my head. It's not directly contradicted by canon, especially if even he's not fully aware of it.

But I highly doubt they're ever gonna go there. And that's what fic is for, DAMN IT.

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[info]sesana
2005-03-04 06:29 pm UTC (link)
The decline of X-Files had damn little to do with the writers trying to give the audience what the audience claimed to want... and a lot more to do with Chris Carter's ego, self-importance, and splitting the overtaxed writing staff between X-Files and other projects (*cough*Millennium*cough*).

Best summary of something I could've said with a lot more four letter words ever. That damned mytharc was the worst thing that could happen to the series. And the teasers were the ultimate in false hope.

Promo: All your questions will be answered!
Episode: *totally fails to answer any questions, and instead comes up with newer and stupider questions*

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[info]crickets
2005-03-05 04:44 am UTC (link)
Promo: All your questions will be answered!
Episode: *totally fails to answer any questions, and instead comes up with newer and stupider questions*


Lather, rinse, repeat for almost every end of season cliff-hanger. ::sigh::

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[info]ultimate_cin
2005-03-05 04:55 am UTC (link)
A-MEN!

The teasers drove me nuts. And the mytharc...it wouldn't have been so bad if Chris Carter had sat down and planned out what was going to happen, or at least had a vague outline. But it came off very unorganized - like he was making up plotlines to throw people off track, and the entire thing kept contradicting itself.

Consistency was definitely NOT Chris Carter's strong point. Used to drive me insane.

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[info]sesana
2005-03-05 07:15 am UTC (link)
Best example: Scully going into labor. She was stalked all over the damn place by aliens, so they could... Watch her give birth, then go away? What the hell was that?

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[info]ultimate_cin
2005-03-06 08:23 am UTC (link)
Oh, no kidding! There are still a lot of things like that that make me just scratch my head and go "WTF?"

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[info]miss_kitten
2005-03-04 08:41 am UTC (link)
Tl;dr.

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I had a tough time when Darin Morgan left, too
(Anonymous)
2005-03-04 09:29 am UTC (link)
I said, "Darin, who will think of the children?" And he never responded, because we do not actually know each other.

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Re: I had a tough time when Darin Morgan left, too
[info]vanilla_tiger
2005-03-04 01:21 pm UTC (link)
You? You made me giggle.

I like you.

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Re: I had a tough time when Darin Morgan left, too
[info]judyhazeleyes
2005-03-05 12:18 am UTC (link)
Jack Handey, is that you? *moony-eyed*

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Re: I had a tough time when Darin Morgan left, too
(Anonymous)
2005-03-06 04:43 am UTC (link)
This made me laugh really hard for no good reason at all. I salute you.

MuseMouse (museofswearing on lj)

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[info]misachan
2005-03-04 09:42 am UTC (link)
Am I the only who assumed that since House is clearly based off of Sherlock Holmes stories (look at the names!), Dr. House would be getting laid about as often as Holmes did?

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[info]erototoxin
2005-03-04 09:58 am UTC (link)
You mean, whenever Watson/Wilson comes by?

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[info]misachan
2005-03-04 10:44 am UTC (link)
That's exactly where my brain went to when House had the line "I used to live with someone" a couple of episodes ago.:) And I'm not even much of a slasher when it comes to Holmes, but with House I think the writers are being deliberately coy. Honestly, it's like first season Smallville all over again.

In any case, slashy subtext is another animal entirely. That's not getting on screen, and it's on screen love interests that the OP seems to be dreading; you have to stand on your head and squint to see any of those in Holmes. The most popular het pairing is probably Holmes/Irene Adler, and they have exactly one scene together in all of canon.

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[info]misachan
2005-03-04 11:02 am UTC (link)
Er...icon not meant for you.:) Forgot to switch Jarlaxle for Gackt.

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[info]erototoxin
2005-03-04 07:54 pm UTC (link)
When the "I used to live with someone" line was spoken, my HUSBAND went "Where's the PRONOUN?" He's so well trained.

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(Anonymous)
2005-03-04 10:51 am UTC (link)
Oh, by all means, don't have any sort of character development at all, no matter how long the series runs. Never have House learn anything or grow. Leave the rest of the series regulars alone, too, for that matter. Self-discovery is for wusses.

*rolls eyes*

Not saying they should give up what makes the man interesting, but come on! If you're going to have a character-driven show that's serialized in any way, you're going to have to, at some point, learn more about the character, and he's going to have to change in some ways. Otherwise, you've got maybe a season's worth of material before people start wandering away to look at other shiny things.

HonorH

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[info]iczer6
2005-03-04 11:31 am UTC (link)
Oh, by all means, don't have any sort of character development at all, no matter how long the series runs. Never have House learn anything or grow. Leave the rest of the series regulars alone, too, for that matter. Self-discovery is for wusses.

Of course! I mean characters shouldn't change or grow as a series progresses, it's good if the status quo is kept at all costs even if it means the show just keeps rehashing the same plots over and and over again.

Jesus did I miss the part where 'squealing' fangirls took over the world and what they say will be law?

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Mouse reporting wank
(Anonymous)
2005-03-04 12:44 pm UTC (link)
Days of Our Lives Character Abortion splooge. Fun for the whole family:

http://www.livejournal.com/community/daysofourlives/2017703.html

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[info]buttercat
2005-03-04 02:25 pm UTC (link)
This was on the official FOX board, too.

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Darin who?
(Anonymous)
2005-03-04 03:44 pm UTC (link)
I was in XF fandom, and I have no idea who Darin Morgan is.

This proves something about the OP's point, I'm sure. I just don't know what.

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There's your bleepin' alien.
[info]jrs1980
2005-03-04 04:41 pm UTC (link)
Brother of Glen Morgan (of Morgan & Wong [Space: Above and Beyond]). He wrote the "funny" episodes. Jose Chung's "From Outer Space", Humbug, War of the Coprophages, and Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose.

He also acting twice on the series, as the Flukeman/Host and Eddie van Blundht.

Another reason her argument is flawed, because he wasn't really a contracted writer, just a freelance. And his episodes...weren't the best with continuity since they were self-mocking. Mulder was a girly-man in War and JC's.

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Re: There's your bleepin' alien.
[info]25th_of_april
2005-03-04 06:47 pm UTC (link)
*does the Mulder yelp*

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Re: There's your bleepin' alien.
[info]phosfate
2005-03-04 07:11 pm UTC (link)
I hope wonder if it made Chris Carter gnaw his own flesh every time the Thanksgiving viewers' choice marathon had every Darin Morgan episode.

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Re: There's your bleepin' alien.
dracothelizard
2005-03-04 08:47 pm UTC (link)
I liked the fun episodes. I did not like the OMG!Government conspiracy with lots of samish looking old men in suits who smoked episodes.

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Re: There's your bleepin' alien.
[info]ultimate_cin
2005-03-05 04:57 am UTC (link)
My favorite episodes were mostly the Darin Morgan ones, because they were fun and had a very subtle humor. One of my favorite scenes is in "Small Potatoes" - when Eddie Van Blundht is always reminding people about the silent "h" in his name....and Mulder and Scully show up at his house and knock on the door...the "h" in the family name on the sign falls off.....;)

So yeah, I was upset when Darin Morgan left too....

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Re: There's your bleepin' alien.
[info]bubosquared
2005-03-05 05:40 pm UTC (link)
OMG YOU MENTIONED SPACE: ABOVE AND BEYOND!

Um. I mean. squee Sorry, I'm good now, I promise. i get a wee bit excited when someone mentions my dead gay show.

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[info]jrs1980
2005-03-04 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Was there an interview with the writers where they said they were planning to give House an estranged ex-wife with twin toddlers or a puppy? Because otherwise, this seems a bit premature.

Dontcha love it when a show goes on a break and people get bored? No new episodes, but the wank will keep them busy.

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[info]phosfate
2005-03-04 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Dear bardvahalla:

Producers and writers are perfectly capable of fucking up a show, or making it brilliant, all on their own. They do not need, or even look for, their fangirls' help.


Dear Writers of 'House:'

Just do your best, is all we ask. (And just for me, keep up the projectile vomiting and various shock gross-outs. Thank you.)

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[info]ebbrowning
2005-03-06 08:10 am UTC (link)
See icon.

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[info]the_wanlorn
2005-03-09 09:17 pm UTC (link)
Love your icon!

And F_W in general for getting me interested in this wanky awesome show.

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