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NM (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} narcissam) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2005-03-18 13:39:00 |
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The First Rule: Don't Talk About Portkey
Amusing little tale for you all about HP shipping.
Portkey is a site for H/Hr fans. It has fanfic and discussion forums, the latter of which have some rather interesting rules.
Did you know that you are not allowed to discuss anything said in the Portkey forums?
The text of the announcement made in January.
Sadly, it has been made abundantly clear that people who visit Portkey have either forgotten or never read Portkey's Site-wide rules. Currently we at PA are particularly concerned about this segment:
QUOTE (Portkey Rules)
10. Quoting/Discussing/Reproducing the opinions of Portkey users
The opinions expressed by users of Portkey within the Portkey network (forums, Portkey’s IRC chat, and Portkey’s PM system) may not be quoted/reproduced/discussed on any external websites without explicit permission from the author of the material. External websites are deemed as sites that are not part of the Portkey network. The same applies in reverse. Quoting/Reproducing/Discussing opinions posted on another website is forbidden unless the Portkey user has received permission from the other website to do so. Users breaking this rule may have their posting put on moderated status or have their access suspended. The only time a user is allowed to quote/reproduce/discuss opinions posted from another website, WITHOUT seeking permission, is when the article being posted is deemed completely open to the public. Such examples consist of news articles and interviews. Please consult a Portkey Administrator or Moderator if you are not sure whether permission is required for a specific source/website.
The only exception to this rule is if the comments are used by a party who is neutral and does not attempt to discredit or argue points presented by the opinion. Examples of this would be when used by press organizations.
Q: What does this mean and how does it apply to the PA Forum?
A: You may not post, link to or discuss any essay in the PA Forum outside of Portkey without the Author's permission.
Reason 1: This rule is so situations like this one do not occur. Debate is not allowed in the PA Forum, as PA's purpose is to be a safe haven for H/Hr Shippers to post and discuss their essays. The only place it may be debated without the Author's permission is in Portkey's own Ship Debate Forum (though you should ask anyway out of respect to the Author). The Author, and only the Author of the essay may allow it to be debated outside of Portkey.
Reason 2: The Author always has the right of reply. If the Author doesn't know their work is being discussed somewhere else, how can they defend it? What if they never wanted to defend it? Why should they have to? A major reason people post their essays at PA is because they do not wish to be put on the defensive. By not asking permission, you are taking away their right of reply and showing utter contempt for the Author.
Reason 3: Plagiarism. While this is a big reason for the rules as they stand, this is not directly related to this recent situation so am not going to expand on it here. Plus we all should know why plagiarism is bad, surely?
So, if you wish to discuss the merits of an essay posted here on another site, first show the Author the proper respect and PM them for permission. It will take you moments and save everyone a lot of trouble and potential hurt.
Discussion. It's like Plagiarism in a way.
I went to check the thread that inspired this announcement: Uncovering the Meaning of Harry Potter: why the H/Hr Ship is Important. Oops just broke the Portkey ToU. Bad me. It's a long essay about symbolism in HP, which I've only scanned, the theme of which seems to be "It is Hermione and love that will pull Harry away from Voldemort's influence." Damn. Broke those rules again.
But apparently someone over on the Mugglenet forums copies and pastes this essay and then the R/Hr shippers diss it. (Mugglenet forums are very difficult to search and link to, so I can't present that bit of the story here.) The author, Alexism is very upset. The Portkey mods make the announcement above.
I'm so glad I don't argue ships anymore.
NM
Amusing little tale for you all about HP shipping.
Portkey is a site for H/Hr fans. It has fanfic and discussion forums, the latter of which have some rather interesting rules.
Did you know that you are not allowed to discuss anything said in the Portkey forums?
The text of the announcement made in January.
Sadly, it has been made abundantly clear that people who visit Portkey have either forgotten or never read Portkey's Site-wide rules. Currently we at PA are particularly concerned about this segment:
QUOTE (Portkey Rules)
10. Quoting/Discussing/Reproducing the opinions of Portkey users
The opinions expressed by users of Portkey within the Portkey network (forums, Portkey’s IRC chat, and Portkey’s PM system) may not be quoted/reproduced/discussed on any external websites without explicit permission from the author of the material. External websites are deemed as sites that are not part of the Portkey network. The same applies in reverse. Quoting/Reproducing/Discussing opinions posted on another website is forbidden unless the Portkey user has received permission from the other website to do so. Users breaking this rule may have their posting put on moderated status or have their access suspended. The only time a user is allowed to quote/reproduce/discuss opinions posted from another website, WITHOUT seeking permission, is when the article being posted is deemed completely open to the public. Such examples consist of news articles and interviews. Please consult a Portkey Administrator or Moderator if you are not sure whether permission is required for a specific source/website.
The only exception to this rule is if the comments are used by a party who is neutral and does not attempt to discredit or argue points presented by the opinion. Examples of this would be when used by press organizations.
Q: What does this mean and how does it apply to the PA Forum?
A: You may not post, link to or discuss any essay in the PA Forum outside of Portkey without the Author's permission.
Reason 1: This rule is so situations like this one do not occur. Debate is not allowed in the PA Forum, as PA's purpose is to be a safe haven for H/Hr Shippers to post and discuss their essays. The only place it may be debated without the Author's permission is in Portkey's own Ship Debate Forum (though you should ask anyway out of respect to the Author). The Author, and only the Author of the essay may allow it to be debated outside of Portkey.
Reason 2: The Author always has the right of reply. If the Author doesn't know their work is being discussed somewhere else, how can they defend it? What if they never wanted to defend it? Why should they have to? A major reason people post their essays at PA is because they do not wish to be put on the defensive. By not asking permission, you are taking away their right of reply and showing utter contempt for the Author.
Reason 3: Plagiarism. While this is a big reason for the rules as they stand, this is not directly related to this recent situation so am not going to expand on it here. Plus we all should know why plagiarism is bad, surely?
So, if you wish to discuss the merits of an essay posted here on another site, first show the Author the proper respect and PM them for permission. It will take you moments and save everyone a lot of trouble and potential hurt.
Discussion. It's like Plagiarism in a way.
I went to check the thread that inspired this announcement: Uncovering the Meaning of Harry Potter: why the H/Hr Ship is Important. Oops just broke the Portkey ToU. Bad me. It's a long essay about symbolism in HP, which I've only scanned, the theme of which seems to be "It is Hermione and love that will pull Harry away from Voldemort's influence." Damn. Broke those rules again.
But apparently someone over on the Mugglenet forums copies and pastes this essay and then the R/Hr shippers diss it. (Mugglenet forums are very difficult to search and link to, so I can't present that bit of the story here.) The author, Alexism is very upset. The Portkey mods make the announcement above.
I'm so glad I don't argue ships anymore.
NM
