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Alecto ([info]alecto) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-04-03 23:36:00


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You have the Right! The Right to be Wanky!
This is my first wank so don't forget the cherry-flavored lube, people! Where was all the wank when I was still an active part of this fandom?

Over on LJ's ygo_icons community, [info]raindrop_jewel posts a few icons that are manips of different characters paired off with Kaiba. (I always knew the Shachou was a man!whore...) I personally think they're rather decent for manips but I can see why it might not be everyone's cuppa.

The first two comments are more than civil and then [info]miss_kaiba enters and voices her dissatifaction(?). No, it's not shipping wank.

Uhh... not that I want to start a flame-war, but your icons aren't that good. I mean, c'mon. Using images from two completely different seasons does not an icon make, nor does it bode well with using images from two completely different scemes where the characters are no-where near each other.

But seriously, you've got to be joking.


Wank follows because as soon as someone claims they're not trying to stir up shit, much shit is stirred.

[info]azure15 immediately jumps to the icon-maker's defense and counters with a defensive, if not wanky, reply.

[info]miss_kaiba insists the icons are in "bad taste". And a few people turn their head in confusion at that statement.

The actual quality of the icons aside, most people have a problem with miss_kaiba's attitude in her initial post.

Never mind what I said earlier because [info]wrong_trousers has a few problems with the ships but most of all, insists and keeps insisting that [info]miss_kaiba's initial comment and subsequent replies are first amendment rights to freedom of speech (translates to "the right to be an absolute asshat").

[info]alexi_serenitia tells both side to STFU because neither is helping the situation and [info]zodiacstargazer wonders when the YGO fandom went to hell in a handbasket.

And in the midst of all this, our icon-maker in question, [info]raindrop_jewel is nowhere to be seen.

Go First Amendment! I'm sure this is exactly what our forefathers had in mind. Forget about protesting unjust wars and debating "legitimate moral" issues.



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[info]ruby_tuesday
2005-04-04 07:08 am UTC (link)
Damn, you beat me to posting this! xD

But yeah. When did giving a counter-opinion become infringing on someone's constitutional right to free speech? I must've missed the memo.

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[info]hypno_jango
2005-04-04 07:12 am UTC (link)
YuGiOh went to hell in a handbasket when they decided to give Kaiba morals. Oh nevermind, I'm talking about the manga.

Those manips seem OK to me. I've seen a lot worse than that.

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(no subject) - [info]alecto, 2005-04-04 07:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-04-04 07:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alecto, 2005-04-04 07:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-04-04 07:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinterrae, 2005-04-04 07:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alecto, 2005-04-04 07:31 am UTC

[info]seto_fangirl
2005-04-04 07:17 am UTC (link)
Mmmmm....Seto.........

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(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-04-04 04:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seto_fangirl, 2005-04-05 04:08 am UTC

[info]smo
2005-04-04 07:38 am UTC (link)
Her manips are pastede on yay!

You know, if whatserbucket doesn't like the icons, she could just... not use them, you know? But then, that would require Earth logic.

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(no subject) - [info]ruby_tuesday, 2005-04-04 07:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-04-04 07:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alecto, 2005-04-04 07:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-04-04 07:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinterrae, 2005-04-04 07:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alecto, 2005-04-04 07:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinterrae, 2005-04-04 08:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]j_crew_guy, 2005-04-04 08:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-04-04 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 02:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 06:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-04-04 04:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-04-04 05:19 pm UTC

[info]ladysphinx
2005-04-04 07:44 am UTC (link)
I love it. The icon-maker cuts and runs as wank breaks out all around her. She's like those people who go to Gallagher shows in rain gear.

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(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2005-04-04 08:18 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 08:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysphinx, 2005-04-04 09:39 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 08:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alecto, 2005-04-04 03:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2005-04-04 04:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]greenling, 2005-04-05 03:45 am UTC

[info]chaimonkey
2005-04-04 08:11 am UTC (link)
What I love [info]miss_kaiba is that:

a) they're placing doujinshi under "fanart" guidelines
b) she thinks that, considering the doujinshi author can even understand the mangled babel-fish Japanese, they'd allow free use of the image what with Japan's insano-strict anti-copyright laws.

Stop trying to sound smart, honey -- it's backfiring.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 09:02 am UTC

[info]princessdot
2005-04-04 08:17 am UTC (link)
I had to chuckle at the freedom of speech card. Badly played in the whole international realm.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-04 08:50 am UTC (link)
I noticed YGO_icons was a whole lot quieter when she was gone...
STRIKING AGAIN because of pairings she doesn't like! OMGz.

It's funny 'cause the post right before it (http://www.livejournal.com/community/ygo_icons/294831.html?#cutid1) had manip-ed images (worse quality, IMO), but a hetero-couple.


I hope that silly girl leaves again. We need some peace, yo.
- darkmus

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 08:45 pm UTC

[info]semtex
2005-04-04 09:05 am UTC (link)
This wank exploded over...icons?? Good god. Who cares? They're fucking icons! Jesus.

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(no subject) - [info]sairobi, 2005-04-04 09:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]golden_pair, 2005-04-04 09:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sairobi, 2005-04-04 07:46 pm UTC

[info]xero_sky
2005-04-04 09:46 am UTC (link)
And do you make icons? Do you spend time on them?

That question makes me want to smack people.

I make icons, and occasionally I spend time on them. And I still think you're being an asshat, sweetheart.

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(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2005-04-04 10:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2005-04-04 10:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2005-04-04 12:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hearsawho, 2005-04-04 11:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2005-04-04 08:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ninja_stripper, 2005-04-05 08:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-04-04 04:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2005-04-04 08:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sitt_isis, 2005-04-05 01:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stroppy_prof, 2005-04-05 03:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ninja_stripper, 2005-04-05 08:18 am UTC

[info]golden_pair
2005-04-04 10:00 am UTC (link)
Ahhh .. Icon!Critique 101, we really need one of those classes, don't we? There's really a difference between being critical on an icon and wrapping a phrase up decoratively to basically shout out: "Your icons suck."

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[info]psychofangirl
2005-04-04 10:18 am UTC (link)
Good god! To think I actually thought of joining that place! My icons are pretty much all Alister icons though(with some Yami Yugi, Seto Kaiba and Duke thrown in). Guess that would be "bad taste" too since I SHIP him with Seto. Bad me! Bad me!

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(no subject) - [info]ruby_tuesday, 2005-04-05 02:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2005-04-05 02:51 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-05 06:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2005-04-05 07:34 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-04-04 11:02 am UTC (link)
Hmmmm.

Here's a summary in ten seconds:

raindrop_jewel: *posts icons!*
miss_kaiba: OMG, YOU IS MAKING ICONS BETTER THAN ME! Ahem, 'scuse me but those aren't that good. *wankety wank!*
azure15: HOW DARE YOU!
wrong_trousers and miss_kaiba: *wank wank wankety wank, all the way down the stairs* BLAH! FREE SPEECH! BLAAAAAAH!
raindrop_jewel: *poof! vanished- and good for her, too!*
Wank: *EXPLODES!*

End.



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(no subject) - [info]suzywongdress, 2005-04-04 06:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 08:19 pm UTC

[info]gal_montag
2005-04-04 01:05 pm UTC (link)
Isn't there a law about screaming "OMG! Freedom of speech!" When you've said something completely idiotic? Because there needs to be.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-04 01:36 pm UTC (link)
The thing about proclaiming 'First Amendment!' is not only that if you pull it on a non-American, they're either going to laugh at you (well, all non-wanky Americans will probably laugh, too) or not know what the hell you're on about. I certainly had no reason to know what the First Amendment was until the wankers started using it.

Plus there's the fact that far from shutting anyone up, you've basically just given them permission to bitch at you till the cows come home.

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[info]bohicamouse
2005-04-04 03:14 pm UTC (link)
This whole comment later in the post is great:

When it comes down to it, people are 1) jealous of your talent, 2) jealous of your publicity, or 3) just plain annoyed. I'll admit that I do not agree with you on posting these in ygo_icons numerous times...I advise that you get an icon journal. Hell, it seems enough people like your icons, so you would get the publicity you crave.
But because someone does not like your icons is no reason to flip out and be a comment whore. For example, [[info]] miss_kaiba . The only reason you're upset is because you think her manips suck. Let's see your manipulations, babe. From what I've seen, your icons suck ten times more ass. And hell, I don't particularly like this chicks icons, but do you see me commenting and complaining? No.


There's so much more gold in the second paragraph too. So . . . she's a whore for posting YGO icons in a YGO icon comm, because she gets good comments on them? But everyone ELSE is jus jelus and the icons aren't that good anyway but HE'S NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT THAT'D BE CLOSED-MINDED!

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[info]bohicamouse
2005-04-04 03:19 pm UTC (link)
Also, I clicked bakura_sama's userinfo to make sure it wasn't an RP journal and s/he wasn't just being that wanky to stay in character, and HOLY HELL THAT'S A LOT OF CRAPPY NAMES FOR 'SHIPS. Silentshipping? Flareshipping? Tabloidshipping?!

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(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2005-04-04 04:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bohicamouse, 2005-04-04 05:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]robinterrae, 2005-04-04 05:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2005-04-04 08:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2005-04-04 08:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2005-04-04 08:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 11:49 pm UTC

[info]aerobot
2005-04-04 04:29 pm UTC (link)
Can we make a new Godwin's Law? Next time someone mentions OMG FREEDUM OF SPEEH!!!11!!, they lose. I'm tired of people using that right to say whatever the hell they want without consequences.

Newsflash: Sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it. And while you can have an opinion, you can still be an asshat.

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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-04-04 05:13 pm UTC
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[info]ahiru
2005-04-04 04:31 pm UTC (link)
Sometimes I think that somewhere there's a textbook floating around informing people that what the First Amendment actually says is, "I have the right to say what I want, no matter how stupid, and you can't say anything about it, nyah nyah."

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(no subject) - [info]robinterrae, 2005-04-04 05:26 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-04-04 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Image (http://www.imageshack.us)

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(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2005-04-04 05:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]elektra3, 2005-04-04 09:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2005-04-05 02:16 am UTC
(no subject) - redwarrior, 2005-04-05 02:18 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-04-04 07:46 pm UTC (link)
It always kills me when people claim First Amendment protection in places like LJ communities, because . . . since when do privately owned online forums count as public venues? I'm not a lawyer, so I could totally be wrong, but I could swear the poor old 1st only applies on public property.

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[info]panthea
2005-04-04 07:49 pm UTC (link)
Using images from two completely different seasons does not an icon make, nor does it bode well with using images from two completely different scemes where the characters are no-where near each other.

Does this person just have no concept of what a manip actually is?

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-04-05 06:29 pm UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2005-04-04 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Uh, no. Just because she manipulated two images to make the characters look like they're kissing doesn't show talent. It shows she doesn't have anything better to do than search through KokoronoNaka.net for images with the characters having their eyes closed while facing either left or right so she can erase enough to make them look like they're kissing.

That isn't talent. That's just plain photo-mutilation and bad taste.


*just shakes her head and laughs*

Clearly, she has not seen the nasty Paul McCartney mpreg manip. THAT is bad taste. XD

Seriously, though. WTF's her issue getting all worked up over ICONS and picture manips?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-04 08:21 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-04-04 08:02 pm UTC (link)
miss_kaiba is claiming to be one of the mods for this community and isn't even following the rules of the community? Rule 2 of that community says "Please use constructive criticism when commenting on the icons" and I'd hardly call that contructive criticism. :P That's just being plain bitchy.

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[info]elektra3
2005-04-04 09:55 pm UTC (link)
Out of curiosity, have any of these asshats actually read the First Amendment? Because it doesn't say anything about having the right to be an unmitigated wanker and not have someone call you on it. All it says is that the government can't prevent you from doing so. Biiiiig difference there. So, yeah, if someone tried to pass legislation preventing miss_kaiba from flipping her shit over a few image manips, she'd have every right to scream about her First Amendment rights being violated. But here? I don't. Fucking. Think so.

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(no subject) - [info]greypearl, 2005-04-05 05:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]akairis, 2005-04-06 05:32 am UTC
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