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grapefruitzzz ([info]grapefruitzzz) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-04-11 02:45:00


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Current mood:Amazed
Current music:not much
Entry tags:fandom: doctor who

SF fans getting nearly everything they want
It's far too vague and Usenetty to call a proper wank, so I apologise for a lack of links, but reading all the rants from hardcore Doctor Who fans who hate Christopher Eccleston for leaving is too much fun to leave alone.

The posters got so heated that major registration-only board Outpost Gallifrey allegedly had to close down for a while and the bitching has overtaken discussion of the actual new series. An added layer of fun is that the original quitting announcement was made very close to April Fools' Day.

(some links might be spoilery)



(The legendary British SF show returned to TV three weeks ago after 16 years (give or take a TV movie) and just after the BBC recorded excellent ratings for the first episode and a reschedule for next year, it was announced leaked that the lead actor would be leaving at the end of this season for fear of being typecast/ not enough money/ rows with the producer/ a carefully pre-determined plan/ all of these. Eccleston is the ninth actor to take the title role)

Various random comments on Tachyon TV and suchlike hint at spoogers talking of sabotaging Eccleston's future theatre career with placards, but all the serious action is registration-only. The thought of a bunch of SF spods wandering into a production of Hamlet waving banners and chuntering about betrayal is an image of wank at its finest.




Quoted in a newsgroup

We FINALLY get a return to Doctor Who's Golden Age - the best set of episodes since Philip Hinchcliffe. Russell T. Davies has done THE most superlative job...Then the announcement of a second series of thirteen episodes and a Christmas Special, and we were all on Cloud Nine.

But now this......
I saw it coming but refused to believe it. I could not accept that an actor like Eccleston, ONE WHO ASKED RUSSELL FOR THE ROLE, could betray all the fans so badly by jumping ship just as things were getting good. Ten and a half million viewers, a bright future, a second series guaranteed, and he has to ruin it for everyone.

There was no need for this.

I adore his acting, but my opinion of him as a person has sunk lower than a cockroach.

When I THINK how hard we all fought back in the early nineties to try to save the show. When I THINK how we've suffered for sixteen years, and also really my opinion of the twelve years prior to that is public knowledge. When I THINK that we after so so so so long had a return to the glory days and had something to celebrate, yet this selfish individual has done his best to spoil it for everybody, MY BLOOD BOILS.

I put it to you all that he had no moral right whatsoever to take on this role, if he was gonna quit after thirteen episodes. What a slap in the face and a betrayal of the trust that Russell placed in him. And how unfair to Russell, who has been Doctor Who's messiah, in not only bringing the series back, but giving us a series worthy of being proud to be a fan. If Eccelston cared at all, he wouldn't have even considered quitting till at least two years had passed.

But NO, he's worried about his precious reputation.

DAMN HIM !!!!!!!!!!!

It Russell has confirmed David Tennant, lets hope they've made him guarantee at least five years. But after all the wonder and magic and brilliance and excitement and awe and thrills of topping the ratings, and joy at seeing posters everywhere, it just all seems so futile.

Why oh why oh why ???
I feel sick.
Please let it all work out in the end.
PLEASE LET DOCTOR WHO STILL HAVE A FUTURE.
PLEASE.




Futurewank alert - David Tennant, the most likely candidate for Eccleston's replacement, is appearing in the next Harry Potter film...



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[info]atalantapendrag
2005-04-11 05:47 am UTC (link)
"How we've suffered"?


Er.


I was passionately addicted to Dr. Who way back in the murky past; from the time WPIX started airing it until I moved somewhere it wasn't shown. I convinced my mother to let me go see Sylvester McCoy at a con when I was 14.

Was I sad about no new episodes being made? Of course! But "suffering"? The only "suffering" involved was the TV movie.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-11 12:46 pm UTC (link)
The only "suffering" involved was the TV movie.

We. Do. Not. Speak of it.

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[info]dana
2005-04-11 01:31 pm UTC (link)
Umm, not much suffering here. I miss The Goodies and Monkey Magic more.

It was a great show, I'm looking foward to the new series, but I won't expire of indignation if it doesn't last long.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-11 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Kitten Kong! The String Song! I want the Goodies, too. I loved the old special they showed last Christmas with the Beanstalk and the goose that laid golden eggs.

Doctor Who is getting excellent ratings, so I think it is secure for now.

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[info]darthfi
2005-04-12 11:55 pm UTC (link)
*psst* Both are available from Amazon UK on DVD.

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[info]nekoneko
2005-04-11 02:31 pm UTC (link)
Whereas my suffering has to do with losing my Talons of Weng-Chiang DVD after watching only one episode. Goddamnit. >_< I still want to see the TV movie, just for Paul McGann's awesome hair.

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[info]mpoetess
2005-04-11 06:01 pm UTC (link)
Mmmm. *pets the pretty pre-raphaelite hair which was totally a wig*

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-12 01:55 am UTC (link)
One episode? But that means you haven't got to see the giant rat, yet!

And yes, that was surely the most beautiful wig in the history of sci-fi.

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[info]pesky
2005-04-11 06:22 am UTC (link)
Nobody wanks like us SciFi wankers. We've had decades of practice. Decades.

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[info]kadath
2005-04-11 04:22 pm UTC (link)
Getting close on a century now. The letters columns in Astounding and Weird Tales were cesspools of wank.

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[info]mister_terrific
2005-04-11 06:39 am UTC (link)
Doctor Who fans have wanked since 1963. The highlight was in the late 80's with "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy", an episode about a nasty, evil circus. One of the main characters was a nerd who'd been a fan of the Circus since he was a child, but it wasn't as good as it used to be but he still was a fan, putting up with it and hoping that they'd bring someone in to fix it up....

He was killed in the third act, of course. I'm sure the producers made it as nasty and painful as possible.

Mister Terrific
Defender of Fair Play
Eccleston rocks!

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[info]platedlizard
2005-04-11 08:04 am UTC (link)
Dude, that sounds wonderful. I've only seen the TV Movie, which scared me off for life, but now I'm suddenly curious.

Hmmm, I heard somewhere that while the SW authors are pretty good to each other, the Doctor Who authors tend to rip giant bloody holes in one-another because they were mostly fanwriters (with all the wank associated with that) who got sucked in. I have no idea if that is actually true, mind you.

What is fandom, if not for wanking?

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[info]telophase
2005-04-11 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Not just the authors. Anything involving Doctor Who fandom. Time to bring up the Best. Quote. Evar. which I have carried in my memory since 1995:

"rec.arts.drwho is one of the few newsgroups that scares _me_, and I read talk.abortion without a killfile."

--David R. Henry, here


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(Anonymous)
2005-04-12 01:58 am UTC (link)
*bursts out laughing* Oh, Gawd, RADW! Does that thing even still exist?

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[info]telophase
2005-04-12 02:12 am UTC (link)
Yup. Just checked it via Google; there's plenty of discussion. No wank in the three or four threads I dipped into, but it's probably still there.

Of course, it'd be like second- or third-generation wank by now, going by how fast Internet years are.

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[info]nostalgia
2005-04-12 04:51 pm UTC (link)
It's a bit old skool. Nowadays we wank on LJ and at Outpost Gallifrey.

EMBERPOSSE MUST DIE!!11!

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[info]mireille
2005-04-12 07:06 pm UTC (link)
Oh, god. I lived on radw in, like '94 and '95. There are posters' names that can still send me under the bed whimpering. *g*

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-12 10:15 pm UTC (link)
'94-'95? Hmmmm … Do you happen to remember the name of that guy who was forever screaming about how Sylvester McCoy was the only true Doctor with the capslock on?

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[info]mireille
2005-04-12 11:43 pm UTC (link)
I am trying so hard to remember. I remember the guy, but not the name. (The only names I remember of people who regularly made me want to hit my head on things were Yads and Jill Deel.)

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[info]amaltheia
2005-04-12 04:04 pm UTC (link)
My of my (very) ex-boyfriends friends was a Doctor Who author, who was personally a sweetie, but rather wanky regarding the other authors. He then went on to write a B5 novelization with my ex, who was/is pretty wanky in his own right - just google on Starhyke.

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[info]nostalgia
2005-04-12 04:48 pm UTC (link)
Jim Mortimore? God, did he kill you all off in the end?

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[info]amaltheia
2005-04-13 03:25 pm UTC (link)
You've heard of him?

*Waves* It took me a while to register your username and notice it was you.

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[info]littlemisspiss
2005-04-11 09:54 am UTC (link)
Who wank is the Eternal. Draw close, o denizens of F_W, and learn from the masters.

I'm just crapped off cause Eccles is TEH SHIT and I would have liked to see him spend more than 13 episodes on it, but feh. The way he was talking about it in interviews I had an inkling that nobody really expected him to be about for too long anyway, etc etc no big surprise.

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[info]darthfi
2005-04-11 11:16 am UTC (link)
Ecclestone is brilliant as the Doctor and the BBC has already had to apologise to him over the whole "he's leaving" thing because a) he'd always told them that he was only going to do one series, and b) they'd promised not to say until the series was over, as he didn't want to have that overshadow the sheer awesomeness of the new series.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-17 09:36 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I was gonna mention that but I've been away for awhile.

It's too bad, because I think he's doing a spectacular job, but oh well.

(rimrunner @ LJ)

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[info]grapefruitzzz
2005-04-11 04:29 pm UTC (link)
I was stunned by the "Russell T Davies is gay and invented Queer As Folk and therefore every single thing that Eccleston does must be micro-examined for campness" wanks.

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[info]nostalgia
2005-04-11 08:02 pm UTC (link)
Did you hear the one in the tabloids about how he left because the part was TOO CAMP and people would think he was OMG TEH GAY?

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[info]grapefruitzzz
2005-04-11 08:55 pm UTC (link)
That would be the Daily Mail? Probably aloongside an article about how chocolate gives cancer to single career women, and how the government is planning to rent out people's front lawns to gypsy asylum-seekers with worms.

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[info]nostalgia
2005-04-11 09:34 pm UTC (link)
I think it was the Star or somesuch? Lower than the Mail, for sure.

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[info]amaltheia
2005-04-12 04:06 pm UTC (link)
There isn't anything lower than the mail. They just have better camouflage.

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[info]mouseybrown
2005-04-11 06:54 pm UTC (link)
Dude, everyone thought the show wouldn't make it through its first run because it would be shit. The fans bitched about that - they should be grateful they now have more bitching possibilities.

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[info]littlemisspiss
2005-04-11 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Exactly!

I mean, it could be worse. Some people are Star Wars fans, poor dears.

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[info]kicklecubicle
2005-04-11 05:09 pm UTC (link)
What are they going to do when the Doc's regenerations are up? Will BBC just say..."Oops! He shouldn't have eaten that salmon mousse! Now he's dead! Sorry, kiddies!"? Will they just bring in a new Time Lord and call him something else ("He calls himself...the Lollipop Man.")? Will he go into an illegal life like the Master and spend the rest of his days killing people and taking over their bodies?

I can't wait to see the wank when this one happens.

Shameless self-promotion: Only because the topic came up here, and I just happened to have it on hand, I offer THIS as my personal look into the Doctor's future. It's at the end- nothing says "Accurate Look at the Future of the Doctor" than a stupid Doctor Who/Ultima VII fanfiction.

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[info]telophase
2005-04-11 09:11 pm UTC (link)
I can't see series continuity winning over high ratings, if that becomes an issue.

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[info]siobhania
2005-04-12 05:01 am UTC (link)
Heh. Salmon mousse.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-11 05:45 pm UTC (link)
Mmmmm, David Tennant. Mmmmmmmm.

*dribble*

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-11 05:57 pm UTC (link)
As I was reading this, I had a horrible image of poor Christopher being locked in a dark, grimy cell and only let out, trembling, beaten and cold to film MORE and MORE episodes, whilst kerazy fans stood off-camera, eyes twitching, whip in hand in case he tried to escape yet again...

Run, Chris. Run.

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[info]darthfi
2005-04-12 11:57 pm UTC (link)
Please. Some of us are going to have fantasies for *months* based on this!

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Ahhh, radw!
[info]nostalgia
2005-04-11 08:13 pm UTC (link)

"Shut up, pub drunk!"

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Ahhh, yads!
[info]mrslovett
2005-04-11 08:54 pm UTC (link)
Cease mocking, unbeliever! Know you not that in the postings of The Incoherent One can be found all the wisdom of the universe, plus the pick-4 lotto results and a damn good recipe for apricot crumble?

--
God, Queen, and Country Until Next Tuesday!
Society MUST be saved! Dissolve extremists slowly in a vinegar solution.
Hating Bachelors. Living.

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Re: Ahhh, yads!
[info]nostalgia
2005-04-11 09:32 pm UTC (link)
and oooh, whathisname that wishes death on Sylv?

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Re: Ahhh, radw!
[info]mireille
2005-04-12 07:07 pm UTC (link)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *shrieks and hides*

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[info]random_dent
2005-04-11 09:20 pm UTC (link)
*waves her EVIL CHRISTOPHER placard*

.... wait... did someone mention David Tennant as the Doctor?

*hastily rewrites placard to GO DAVID GO*

Sci-fi fans: not only insane, but fickle.

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[info]grapefruitzzz
2005-04-11 09:57 pm UTC (link)
Oh yes, he'll do nicely. *waves YAY DAVID OMG placard and marches on BBC*

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-12 06:52 am UTC (link)
Er, isn't Dr. Who one of those series that is not only okay with losing their leads, but is almost famous for it? The Doctor is always getting "body replacements" and such, it worked into the plot perfectly.

So there'll just be another body for The Doctor to inhabit. What's the big deal?

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[info]amaltheia
2005-04-12 04:09 pm UTC (link)
Oh you poor, innocent mouse.

*Shakes head in pity*

*Waves 'Tasmin Greig for Doctor' Placard*

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[info]nostalgia
2005-04-12 04:50 pm UTC (link)
omg you f00l! he BEGGED for it and then CAST US ASIDE LIKE THE CHEAP WHORES WE ARE!

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