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random_fandom ([info]random_fandom) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-04-15 02:36:00


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Symphonia Incest Wank
An ordinary day in the Tales of Symphonia fandom, where half the fangirls huggle and squee over their favorite incestuous slash pairing, while the other half retches and cries. Then along comes ravenclaw_bebop.

Bebop makes her fandom debut by posting a snarky rant in three
different communities,two of which have a fake lj-cut leading back to the full essay on the
Slash Community where the pairing is widely worshipped by adoring fangirls.

The article is first presented as a balanced essay, examining the pros and cons of the Kratos/Lloyd relationship. But what lurks behind the cut? This:

...this pairing is a canon impossibility because it's an
IRL abomination. There is a palpable (scary) reluctance to confess that
incest in real life isn't awfully healthy, especially between lonely,
devoted, idealistic idiot savant 17 year old kids (with probable
abandonment issues and very possible attachment disorders- who really
need Special Ed, not Sex Ed) and their worldly, infinitely experienced,
four thousand year old Papas. Oh no. And the argument that maybe all
that's needed is a lovely dose of paedophile-style grooming, so Papa
can penetrate his pubescent poppet's ass with a minimum of lubrication,
tearing and general anal trauma...


gosh, the romance. Will it never begin?

Maybe Lloyd needed a hot mana injection, but shagging
Papa isn't a cheat my Gamecube put out. It's blatant BS, fuckwittery,
hokum, and self deceiving bloody insanity to pretend to anything else.
Kratos/Lloyd is a black hole of improbability and an anti-matter of
canonical likelihood whose only practical purpose is to suck in all the
truly batshit members of the fandom, corralling them safely away from
the emo wangsters shipping Zelos/Sheena - thus averting many tears,
tantrums, dramatic exits, and general online hair pulling.

Lloyd has a pure heart and is very idealistic, but his higher brain
function is about on par with Terri Schiavo's. He's your basic paradigm
of mindless emotional response and hence can be manipulated with total
ease, as he doesn't have the common sense he'd need to defend himself.
You could certainly make a good and heart rending story out of this,
but only if you wanted to make Kratos an all round evil cunt, brutally
exploiting his tender young son's vulnerabilities and manipulating his
emotions/buttocks/throbbing shaft of manhood with truly impressive
dexterity.


The OP then includes links to The American Psychotherapy Association,
NAMBLA, and a Harry Potter skullfuck story, all of which will probably
suit your interest "if you find Lloyd/Kratos in any way
realistically hot.
"

Three guesses on what happens next. Yep. Splooge!

[1]
This is a _SLASH_ site, if you you not like homosexual relationships, then you should NOT be here. If you only like "cannon" pairings FINE, enjoy them. But do it somewhere else.

[2]
This rant hurt my feelings because incest is a beautiful thing.

[3]
Yes. I agree with every word you say. Will that shut you the fuck up?

And then we have a sploogy sidequest, away from the main wank, when rosa_aquafire comes along, defending her OTP with "incest is just the same as homosexuality." Short wank here, unfortunately.

There's also a bonus fanart followup post, where people celebrate their beloved father/son pairing and rant about the original rant -- secretly and subtly, of course, in a wide-open post to the same community.



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[info]rachelmap
2005-04-15 10:50 am UTC (link)
Insest is not my cup of tea at all. That's why I DON'T GO TO THOSE COMMUNITES.

Stupid cow.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-15 10:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-04-15 12:05 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2005-04-16 09:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-04-16 09:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]boadicea, 2005-04-16 07:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]necronomist, 2005-04-17 01:34 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-17 12:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vergilsparda, 2005-04-15 08:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-04-16 02:40 am UTC

[info]iczer6
2005-04-15 10:53 am UTC (link)
Aaah the HP skullfuck story, I hope someday it'll become the new Goatse.

Jesus tap dancing Christ woman, it's just a pairing for a video game, not the downfall of Western Civilization Unclench before you hurt yourself.

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(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-04-15 12:07 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]stroppy_prof, 2005-04-15 02:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-15 02:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-15 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2005-04-16 01:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2005-04-16 03:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tyraarane_, 2005-04-15 07:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]greypearl, 2005-04-15 08:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ianthefira, 2005-04-18 12:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-04-16 07:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waltraute, 2005-04-15 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-04-16 03:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-04-15 08:52 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-04-15 10:26 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2005-04-16 03:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]killer_robot, 2005-04-16 10:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2005-04-17 01:36 am UTC

dracothelizard
2005-04-15 11:43 am UTC (link)
Harry Potter skullfuck mwuh? I DON'T want to know. *files this under 'things humans were not meant to know'.

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(no subject) - [info]platypus, 2005-04-15 06:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-04-15 09:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]waltraute, 2005-04-15 11:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-04-15 09:24 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-04-15 12:13 pm UTC (link)
Damn, this incest pairing isn't even all about mass murder and 90% of the fiction isn't rape.

How lame.

/wanders back to the den of Uchihacest

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[info]annabelle_lee
2005-04-15 12:46 pm UTC (link)
Terri Shiavo gets a mention in a rant about incestfic concerning pixels...mmm, tasteless. And it just gets better.

I love how attachment issues automatically get you a seat on the short bus, too. As a former clingy latchkey kid, I say a big FUCK YOU to that.

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(no subject) - [info]platypus, 2005-04-15 02:40 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-04-15 05:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-04-16 07:28 am UTC

[info]platypus
2005-04-15 12:51 pm UTC (link)
It does amuse me that the mod chides the poster against being "vulgar" when they are saying they don't like incest fic. It just... cracked me up. Calling them on being a blatant troll, and I'd agree. Rude, sure. "Vulgar" just makes me giggle, it sounds so prim.

I have to say I'd be squicked as well, if I went to a slash site and was met with incest. Not keen on the whole child abuse and gay comparison, either. But meh. I still call troll.

God, that fandom is wanky.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-15 01:16 pm UTC (link)
...this pairing is a canon impossibility because it's an
IRL abomination.


bitch, please. that practically guarantees that will be a major ship in any fandom.

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-04-15 05:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2005-04-16 09:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2005-04-16 09:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2005-04-16 10:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2005-04-19 10:46 am UTC

[info]eclair
2005-04-15 03:10 pm UTC (link)
I remember playing the game.
"Oh, wow, those two have some spark! Some chemistry! Very interesting, very interesting indeed."

Then Kratos pulled a Vader. Luckily, I found out before hand. Still...
Though, I did have the sinking suspicion when they were the two only brown haired story characters in the game. Also, if two characters share similar moves in an RPG it may mean (Namco loves pulling this) that they're related. Bah.

But again, a fictional pairing isn't going to doom civilization. I would surely hope not, anyway. There's far worse things out there than Kratos/Lloyd.

Especially considering my OTP is a thirteen year old girl (who can talk to phantoms) falling in love with her phantom guardian. (Who's technically eighteen, but honestly 26. Since he died when he was 18 + 8 years as a phantom...)

Okay yeah.

... god, the Skullfuck still gives me nightmares.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-15 03:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eclair, 2005-04-15 04:35 pm UTC

[info]sepiamagpie
2005-04-15 03:31 pm UTC (link)
[info]_tsuki_kitsune_ scares me.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-16 12:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-04-16 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sidhebastardess, 2005-04-16 02:44 am UTC

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-15 05:02 pm UTC (link)
incest in real life isn't awfully healthy, especially between[...] 17 year old kids[...] and their worldly, infinitely experienced, four thousand year old Papas.

And how often does this happen in real life, exactly?

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-04-16 02:46 am UTC

[info]gmth
2005-04-15 05:05 pm UTC (link)
Am I a horrible, horrible person because I thought that skullfuck fic was hysterically funny?

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(no subject) - [info]parkagirl, 2005-04-15 05:07 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]soleta, 2005-04-15 07:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fandom_bitch, 2005-04-17 01:08 am UTC

[info]parkagirl
2005-04-15 05:06 pm UTC (link)
Jesus Christ. Every time I think that I've forgotten the skullfuck, someone has to drag it up again. And then I throw up a little in my mouth. Ahhh, just like the first time.

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[info]aloysius
2005-04-15 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Wow. Who knew ToS had such a huge father/son sub-fandom. I must get into this show. Now.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2005-04-15 05:24 pm UTC
>D - [info]ruaki, 2005-04-16 05:59 am UTC
Re: >D - [info]loki, 2005-04-17 01:55 am UTC
Re: >D - [info]ruaki, 2005-04-17 03:18 am UTC

[info]megmurry
2005-04-15 06:01 pm UTC (link)
You know, the username "ravenclaw_bebop" makes me wonder if anyone's written a Harry Potter/ Cowboy Bebop fic where Ed goes to Hogwarts.

What? Wank? Eh.

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[info]sarajayechan
2005-04-15 06:29 pm UTC (link)
Teehee. I love people who think fiction is just like real life!

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[info]ladyofviolets
2005-04-15 06:42 pm UTC (link)
//This is a _SLASH_ site, if you you not like homosexual relationships, then you should NOT be here. If you only like "cannon" pairings FINE, enjoy them. But do it somewhere else.//

No one thinks of the canonly gay cops from FAKE. Or the gay military gus in Legen of Blue Wolves. Or the gay idol singer and his novelist boyfriend in Gravitation.

*sniiiiif*

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(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2005-04-15 11:04 pm UTC
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[info]rosa_aquafire
2005-04-15 06:52 pm UTC (link)
DUDE. I GOT WANKED :D! WHAT A THING TO WAKE UP TO, WUT! :D

For the record, though, Kratos/Lloyd is far from my OTP, it's kind of a casual side-ship. Lloyd/Colette is my OTP by eons.

Whee wank~

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(no subject) - [info]iris, 2005-04-15 06:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosa_aquafire, 2005-04-15 07:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-04-15 09:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]redjackcash, 2005-04-16 04:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosa_aquafire, 2005-04-19 03:07 am UTC

[info]rosa_aquafire
2005-04-15 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Oh, and ... thanks. Now that I know exactly what a bitch she's been around, she's getting banned from my community >:D

I doubt she'll ever post again, anyways, since she seems to have joined with the express purpose of pissing people off :D

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(no subject) - [info]platypus, 2005-04-15 07:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosa_aquafire, 2005-04-15 07:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-17 04:57 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-04-15 07:36 pm UTC (link)
This is a _SLASH_ site, if you you not like homosexual relationships, then you should NOT be here. If you only like "cannon" pairings FINE, enjoy them. But do it somewhere else.

Awww don't be hating the Howitzer/Columbiad OTP ... their luv is so tru!!!

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Re: I Agree You Have 'Problems'... - [info]rosa_aquafire, 2005-04-15 08:58 pm UTC

[info]judyhazeleyes
2005-04-15 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Holy crap, there's Symphonia fic? My roommate just started playing that game awhile ago, and I'm totally hooked (and more than a little bit in fictional-character-love with Raine).

*puts on splooge-waders to peek around the comm*


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(no subject) - [info]pikacharma, 2005-04-15 10:01 pm UTC
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[info]croik
2005-04-15 10:36 pm UTC (link)
I blame Laguna/Squall. I don't seem to remember all that much parent/child OTP-ing until them, but...maybe I was just out of the loop... >.>

(On a side note, when people start arguing "incest can be beautiful [IRL]" it reminds me too much of the Gravitation fans who claim "rape can be romantic", and that's...when they need to step back. Seriously)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-16 02:15 am UTC

dodyskin
2005-04-16 02:05 am UTC (link)
...[info]hugsnkisses?

omg I'm so confused.

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(no subject) - [info]random_fandom, 2005-04-16 04:32 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-04-16 02:11 am UTC (link)
I brought my briefcase because Gamecube incest is obviously Serious Business. And beautiful. For the love of fandom, would somebody -please- think of the god damned pedo!mercs?

-Some kind of Mouse

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-21 03:33 am UTC

[info]sidhebastardess
2005-04-16 02:42 am UTC (link)
Aside from really not liking the conflation of homosexuality with incest (which I admit to finding mighty squicky, though as far as fandom goes I'm a "to each their own" sort) . . .

It can be argued that most homosexuals had issues with their parents, or experienced abuse, which is true

Wait, what?

I mean, true, plenty of GLBTQwhatever folks have some parental friction, but "most"? And the first time I read through that, it sure sounded as though there was an implication that homosexuality has something to do with having been abused (in a cause-and-effect sort of way). I'd imagine 'twas not intentional . . . I hope. But still, eesh.

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