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791point43 ([info]791point43) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-04-17 13:14:00


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Current mood:Peckish

Their PhDs are pastede on yay!
This is quite old, but I don't think I've seen it on FW before...

Buffy Studies, is, as everyone knows, a serious academic discipline. But when fandom and academia collide, the results can be mighty splodgy.

Bluntinstrument.org.uk is a fansite dedicated to Christophe Beck, the composer of, among other things, BtVS. An anonymouse submits a report on the first Buffy Studies conference, focusing on the two music panels. The anonymouse criticises the first panel, calling the session "academically ... disappointing - to the more intelligent members of the audience at any rate", accuses one of the presenters of Teh Plagirism, and speculates that "perhaps she was expecting the event to have been more along the lines of a fan convention than an academic research conference, but her work really was out of place at the latter."

Academic A is first off the mark with, "I ... am a musicologist and a senior lecturer in music, and the paper is thoroughly grounded in theory, despite the writer's implication that it wasn't."

Academic B, the one criticised for reportedly not knowing the difference between a fan convention and an academic conference, also responds; the essence of her reply can be summed up with, "My work is enjoyed by both waitresses and college professors" < /Anne Rice>.

A sockpuppet random academic also in the audience during the presentations takes great offence to the anon reviewer's insinuation that the members of the audience were unintellegent, and chimes in with, "As a senior lecture, I clearly regard myself as an intelligent academic and I am one who has particular research interests in this field."

Academic C attempts to defend his colleague from Teh Plagirism accusation, but does so in a curiously backhanded manner, before dismissing her work as mere "useful groundwork", and summing up the whole conference as not "the kind of conference where one would necessarily expect to encounter profound, groundbreaking research." He goes on to dispute the sockpuppet's "Senior Lecture"'s claim to be all that intelligent.

Teh alleged Plagirist comes back two months later: "Apologies for the delay in replying as I was in San Juan, Puerto Rico, researching in various popular music archives for the last three months." After defending her use of somebody else's idea, and using equipment problems and health issues to explain her responses to the audience's questions, she asserts that, "Whilst some in the audience may have felt patronised by listening to something they could have delivered ... they didn't."

Anon attacks - check! Teh Plagirism - check! Accusations of being a stupidhead - check! Sockpuppets - check! Incessant flashing of credentials - check! Mmmm, AcademicWank...



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[info]ashenmote
2005-04-17 03:35 pm UTC (link)
Before we can evaluate the matter at hand more thoroughly, I must voice my dissapointment that your post doesn't hold up to academic wank standards.
It is only waitresses in trailer parks who cherish the unedited literary efforts of A.R., not the collectivity of female waiting personnel, as suggested by your partial quote.

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[info]birdyexmachina
2005-04-18 01:29 am UTC (link)
...your icon has struck me dead with its beauty, I hope you know.

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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-04-18 07:27 am UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2005-04-17 04:13 pm UTC (link)
I'd love to read this wank, but black-on-red text is OW LIEK WHOA!!11one

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-17 08:07 pm UTC (link)
Same here. I tried to read it, but it actually started to hit my migraine trigger spot. Yeeeesh!

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[info]sitt_isis
2005-04-17 11:07 pm UTC (link)
Same here.
But I was so curious, I copy & pasted it into Word, but I admit, I'm now regretting it. Weekends are for resting my brain. Silly me, frying it on Sunday afternoon.

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[info]kijikun
2005-04-17 05:56 pm UTC (link)
Wait...wait...this is about the serious academic study of....

Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

*is ded*

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-17 06:56 pm UTC (link)
*headdesk* You know, it's people thinking BtVS is capable serious academic analysis who are the same people who turn their noses up at my theology undergraduate dissertation on doctrines of immortality as expressed in Sci-Fi... double standards like whoa!

*cries and huggles her pet research interest*

Maisy Mouse

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(no subject) - [info]necronomist, 2005-04-17 09:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fatesarchitect, 2005-04-18 04:14 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-04-17 07:42 pm UTC (link)
hold the phone.

i could've done my major on Buffy?

shit. *goes off to continue with stupid English degree*

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-18 02:16 am UTC (link)
Because English degrees are useless. You should have done your degree in something useful. Like architecture.

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(no subject) - winterfox, 2005-04-18 02:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]selenis, 2005-04-18 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-04-18 04:57 pm UTC

[info]reinhardt
2005-04-17 07:47 pm UTC (link)
People actually take Buffy seriously enough to actually study it on an academic level? Color me 100 shades of boggled.

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(no subject) - [info]waysmeanstonola, 2005-04-17 08:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arien, 2005-04-17 09:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]reinhardt, 2005-04-17 11:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-18 03:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]reinhardt, 2005-04-18 04:46 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-18 07:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]funwithrage, 2005-04-18 08:36 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-24 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-04-18 05:01 pm UTC

[info]waysmeanstonola
2005-04-17 08:08 pm UTC (link)
the title of your post begs to be on an icon.

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(no subject) - [info]morgothik, 2005-04-18 12:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fandom_bitch, 2005-04-18 01:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]morgothik, 2005-04-18 03:03 am UTC
Note to self: Do not drink while looking at icons - [info]fandom_bitch, 2005-04-18 06:50 am UTC
Re: Note to self: Do not drink while looking at icons - [info]waysmeanstonola, 2005-04-19 06:13 am UTC
Re: Note to self: Do not drink while looking at icons - [info]fandom_bitch, 2005-04-20 09:21 pm UTC

[info]sajasma
2005-04-17 08:35 pm UTC (link)
...*has a Senior Seminar on Buffy at her school*

*facepalm*

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-18 02:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sajasma, 2005-04-18 09:29 pm UTC

dracothelizard
2005-04-17 09:23 pm UTC (link)
Can't these people do, I don't know, webdesign studies first? 'Cause that left frame is fugly, and all the buttons look all weird and ugly and it doesn't make any sense!

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(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-17 09:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2005-04-18 01:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-18 01:37 am UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-04-18 01:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-18 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-04-18 03:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-18 03:59 am UTC
From your bluntinstrument webmaster... - (Anonymous), 2005-04-26 06:10 pm UTC

[info]eclair
2005-04-17 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Teh alleged Plagirist comes back two months later: "Apologies for the delay in replying as I was in San Juan, Puerto Rico, researching in various popular music archives for the last three months."

...San Juan is the most advance city on the island, I'm sure there are internet cafe and what have you. No, don't look at me like that! We know what a computer looks like, REALLY.

Please stay away from my island, we're wanky by nature down here.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-04-18 06:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eclair, 2005-04-18 07:41 pm UTC

[info]arien
2005-04-17 10:00 pm UTC (link)
Academic wank is very special. I am always entertained by academics shouting long words and credentials at each other in passive voice, waiting for that uppity grad student to shout, "Bitch, PLEASE!" and promptly be blacklisted by her fellow grad students for embarassing the scholars with her coarse language.

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(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-17 10:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-04-17 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arien, 2005-04-17 10:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cill_ros, 2005-04-17 10:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-17 10:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arien, 2005-04-18 12:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-18 12:28 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-04-17 10:04 pm UTC (link)
I particularly like the bold use of status indicators at the bottom of the responses. 'I have a serious job with a title and all so I must be right!' Plus the last 'Sorry I couldn't respond I was in San Juan doing important things, why don't I just point that out' is classic academia.

My last encounter with academic fan studies involved having to listen to someone seriously arguing that all written imitations of other works should be considered fanfiction and thus the Aeneid was (voila!) fanfiction. I had to resist the urge to argue that if that was the case I felt Aeneas was not only OOC but the first recorded Mary Sue.

I find it hard to take some of the people who work in this feild very seriously - so much of it is just jamming the show du jour into some shiny box o'theory whether it works or whether they actually know anything about that theory or the show itself.

lesbiassparrow on lj

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(no subject) - [info]entelodont, 2005-04-17 11:55 pm UTC
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[info]heddychaa
2005-04-17 10:11 pm UTC (link)
My university has an entire COURSE dedicated to the works of Anne Rice. I'm hoping to death it's "Creative Writing 102: Learning the Value of Editors"

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-17 10:58 pm UTC (link)
Buffy academic conference, Nashville, TN: mutual mental masturbation.

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[info]sitt_isis
2005-04-17 11:03 pm UTC (link)
Whoaaaaaa.... Stupid me, thinking of getting a PhD in a scientific area! Especially when there's a lack-of-Buffy-PhD's crisis!

Would someone be so kind as to let me know if they come up w/ a PhD for Harry Potter? Thanks bunches!

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-17 11:52 pm UTC (link)
There's at least one theology grad student who is writing their thesis on good and evil in the Buffyverse, plus a philosophy student who's analysing gender identity issues in slash writers.

But really, is it any more useless than doing microscopic analyses of coprolites to understand the diet of preClovis hunter-gatherers, really?

Archymouse

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(no subject) - [info]linzee, 2005-04-18 02:10 am UTC
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[info]annaham
2005-04-18 03:59 am UTC (link)
Last quarter, I wrote a nine-page term paper on gender dynamics in PJ Harvey's and Rufus Wainwright's music. I got a 93.

Hopefully, my senior thesis will be as fun to research. The best part of that particular term paper, by far, was that I found a few serious academic essays on PJ Harvey's music which had actually been published in music journals.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-18 04:14 am UTC (link)
This actually gives me hope.

I mean, if Buffy the Vampire Slayer is considered to have enough merit that an entire academic field is devoted to it, then perhaps writing an 108-page analysis of Labyrinth (http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/lorelei/labyanalysis.html) wasn't a total waste of my time, either.

And this is the second time I've brought up my Labyrinth analysis on FW. Is that in itself wanky?

--Freya Lorelei (http://www.livejournal.com/users/freyalorelei)

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(no subject) - [info]fatesarchitect, 2005-04-18 04:19 am UTC
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[info]slothrop
2005-04-18 10:03 am UTC (link)
Buffy. Studies.

Ahahahahahahha!

Do any of them contain seminars on how to say, "You want fries with that?"

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[info]kadath
2005-04-18 04:53 pm UTC (link)
I went to a tech school where the blowoff courses have names like "The Mechanics of Alpine Skiing." Humanities wank is blowing my mind.

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[info]oddplaces
2005-04-19 02:05 am UTC (link)
... Ah, no one can wank like an academic.

((coughs)) PlagiArism.

This is (one among many reasons) why I'm glad not to be a Buffy fan. I couldn't keep myself from laughing.

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