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pyrrah ([info]pyrrah) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-04-22 14:15:00
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Current mood:Mildly Amused
Entry tags:fandom: death note, sub vs. dub

Death Note License Wank
It wouldn't beat FMA licensing drama, still...


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(Anonymous)
2005-04-22 02:37 pm UTC (link)
I'm still waiting to find out just what is so horrible about Viz that people think it's the end of the planet if a manga gets licenced by them. They seem to do all right to me.

But then, I'm not a raging die-hard scanlation monkey, thus I can't possibly know the truth.

-Vappa on LJ

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[info]jaseroque
2005-04-22 02:58 pm UTC (link)
Hrmph. I like Viz. They picked up my childhood anime love and released it first, and it didn't suck and at that point there were no such things as scanslations and it blew my little world because here it WAS and it was ON PAPER and I was sooo happy...

...

and then it got dubbed and I was even happier because, uh, well, at least one of the commercial releases of my baby didn't suck.

So Viz is my friend.

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[info]hypno_jango
2005-04-22 05:32 pm UTC (link)
VIZ is OMGSOEVIL because sometimes they edit things so minor only the most anal retentive of the fans would care, translate into English, and they changed Zoro name to Zolo for legal reasons.

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(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-04-23 02:42 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-04-22 08:47 pm UTC (link)
I'm not a particularly large fan of Viz because they, more than any other manga translation company, have been known to edit their manga. Although I laugh, and I mean LAUGH, when I think of what's going to happen to their precious "Must Keep The PG13 Rating" Edition of Yami no Matsuei when they hit later in the series. If they try to censor what MIGHT be a blow-job now, what on earth are they going to do when they get to a naked man being tentacle-raped by a giant snake? But I digress.

Really, though, Viz isn't as bad as some people make them out to be. I don't agree with how they edit some of their titles and don't state anywhere that they have been edited, but that doesn't mean that their translations aren't good or that their quality is bad.

- Xel-ko on LJ

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(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-22 09:13 pm UTC
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[info]skat
2005-04-23 04:07 am UTC (link)
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that the reason Viz bothers me so much is really as a result of their policy in terms of names. I get it - in the West we use first name, last name, not last name, first name. But when you've got a character driven manga and you change the names, you're changing the character relationships, and thusly, the manga itself. If you go to the trouble to keep honorifics - which I think would confuse more Westerners than name order - it's not too much trouble to keep the name order the same too.

Honestly. It's Captain Tezuka, not Captain Kunimitsu. Urgh.

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[info]aloysius
2005-04-22 02:56 pm UTC (link)
I don't actually see a lot of wank there, but this one is precious.

natsukigirl, is that you?

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[info]eclair
2005-04-22 04:07 pm UTC (link)
No, it's not! They butcher the art and scam off japan! If you appreciate the series then buy it in japanese, not some cheap diluted copy!

ARGH!!!!

...Jesus, what? This isn't the Tenjou Tenge manga!
Come on people, atleast wait until it comes out to bitch about how "awful" it is.

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[info]sarajayechan
2005-04-23 02:46 am UTC (link)
No, it's not! They butcher the art and scam off japan! If you appreciate the series then buy it in japanese, not some cheap diluted copy!

OH NOEZ!!1!!1!

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[info]jaseroque
2005-04-22 03:05 pm UTC (link)
for the love of GOD why doesn't Tokyopop have it?

Hnar, hnar, hnar.

*bitter manga-fan who can't read Get Backers because the translation is so spectacularly wrong*

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[info]hypno_jango
2005-04-22 05:19 pm UTC (link)
Well, the real answer is VIZ is owned (or something like that) by the Japanese company who owns Shonen Jump also. (Some stupid fans had to learn that the hard way.) VIZ has the SJ line of manga and people are shocked it got another SJ title?

At least TokyoPop is doing a great job with the Slayers novels but I'm not really a fan of any the manga they picked up so so I have no idea about any of that.

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[info]crysiana
2005-04-22 05:39 pm UTC (link)
Apparently they abandon the slang after a few books. (I haven't gotten the later ones yet.) Also, they apparently apologized for the gender thing. ...which is not to say that I particularly trust the translation, just that to my understanding it greatly improves. (...but they killed the "S in Getbackers" line and must therefore be punished.)

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[info]phosfate
2005-04-22 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Oh, yeah. They're sensitive artistes at Tokyopop.

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[info]mistressrenet
2005-04-23 05:57 am UTC (link)
In my experience, it really depends on what book you get with Get Backers. Saiyuki and Fruits Basket are both really good.

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[info]krazycat
2005-04-22 04:01 pm UTC (link)
Didn't I scan that page for a second then ignore read this already?


Oh wait, that was in fandom_lounge.

Is it wankier now?

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(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-22 08:26 pm UTC
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[info]shun_mcdaddy
2005-04-22 04:38 pm UTC (link)
Why always when americans can now get anime easily, do people act like the snobs of the 90's?

What's so wrong with new people, who might not be fanbrats, getting into it?

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-04-22 04:47 pm UTC
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[info]smo
2005-04-22 04:44 pm UTC (link)
If it makes anyone feel any better, Viz did an excellent job with Rurouni Kenshin.

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[info]suzywongdress
2005-04-22 05:15 pm UTC (link)
You know what? I LIKE Viz over Tokyopop. At least Viz doesn't plaster an ugly red symbol on everything they print.

[is still bitter that she can't finish her Wish collection without said ugly red symbol]

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[info]phosfate
2005-04-22 05:55 pm UTC (link)
Death Note sounds like one of those fake movies they go to see on Seinfeld. "Prognosis Negative is sold out. Ya wanna go see Death Note?"

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(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-22 08:22 pm UTC

[info]redjackcash
2005-04-22 10:41 pm UTC (link)
Translation: Blah blah blah OMG I LUV JAPAN AND VIZ IS BENT ON DESTROYING ITSKHDFKJSDHFKJLH!!!!

Christ on a cracker, folks, there's nothing wrong with comics being in a language you can understand. And it's not like scanlations are that spot-on. Or have you forgotten that Light's name was translated wrong for several chapters of Death Note?

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(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-04-22 10:50 pm UTC
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[info]lessis
2005-04-22 11:34 pm UTC (link)
Am I weird that I generally don't care who licenses manga just so long as I can buy and read it, instead of just looking at the pretty pretty pictures?


I will admit to being a bit pickier on anime simply because I get used to hearing certain voices for characters thanks to fansubs. But then that's what dvds are for.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-04-23 06:05 am UTC
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[info]dawnswalker
2005-04-23 12:41 am UTC (link)
My god! A manga series with a large fan-following got licensed! By the company whose parent company owns the magazine! Who could have seen this coming?!

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normally not a mouse with possible wank
(Anonymous)
2005-04-23 01:47 am UTC (link)
http://p205.ezboard.com/fcafepressstoreownersforumfrm11.showMessageRange?topicID=394.topic&start=101&stop=108

Not on my own name cause I'm too lazy to post this one myself. But someone has actively tried to trademark the word "caution" in a diamond shape and chases around anyone on Cafepress who dares to use the design--and Cafepress basically rolls over for him.

--normally logged in

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[info]crysiana
2005-04-23 03:11 am UTC (link)
...you know, I just realized that the only way I ever find out that something big is licensed is through fandom_wank. Hm.

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(Anonymous)
2005-04-23 08:51 pm UTC (link)
*ded by your icon*

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