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The Sinister Dr. Larimer ([info]phosfate) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-05-02 10:55:00


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Current mood:Candy-Coated
Current music:So Long and Thanks for All the Fish earworm for all eternity

Update: Sorry, Lee, but...
Apparently being a "hardcore Trekkie" means that you own some Star Trek DVDs.



http://slate.msn.com/id/2117320/&#pedotrekkies

The Secret Star Trek/Pedophilia Connection! The multiple layers of experienced editors at the Los Angeles Times signed off on the following astonishing paragraph that appeared in yesterday's story about the Toronto police Sex Crimes Unit:

On one wall is a "Star Trek" poster with investigators' faces substituted for the Starship Enterprise crew. But even that alludes to a dark fact of their work: All but one of the offenders they have arrested in the last four years was a hard-core Trekkie.

Det. Constable Warren Bulmer slips on a Klingon sash and shield they confiscated in a recent raid. "It has something to do with a fantasy world where mutants and monsters have power and where the usual rules don't apply," Bulmer reflects. "But beyond that, I can't really explain it." [Emph. added]

http://www.corante.com/importance/archives/2005/04/28/la_times_claim_about_pedophiles_wrong.php

LA Times Claim About Pedophiles Wrong
Posted by Ernest Miller
This has very little to do with the normal topics of this blog, but yesterday the LA Times (reg. req.) published an article regarding the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit that focused on their fight against child pornography (Sifting Clues to an Unsmiling Girl). They are the law enforcement organization that photoshopped the victims out of child porn photos in order to get the public's assistance in identifying the backgrounds (it worked). In any case, the article had this amazing claim:

On one wall is a "Star Trek" poster with investigators' faces substituted for the Starship Enterprise crew. But even that alludes to a dark fact of their work: All but one of the offenders they have arrested in the last four years was a hard-core Trekkie.
Wow. All but one in four years. Seemed rather unlikely to me.

So, I called the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit and spoke to Det. Ian Lamond, who was familiar with the LA Times article.

He claims they were misquoted, or if that figure was given it was done so jokingly. Of course, even if the figure was given jokingly, shouldn't the Times' reporter have clarified something that seems rather odd? Shouldn't her editors have questioned her sources?

Nevertheless, Detective Lamond does claim that a majority of those arrested show "at least a passing interest in Star Trek, if not a strong interest."

They've arrested well over one hundred people over the past four years and Det. Lamond claims they can gauge this interest in Star Trek by the arrestees' "paraphenalia, books, videotapes and DVDs." I asked if this wasn't simply a general interest in science fiction and fantasy, such as Star Wars or Harry Potter or similar. Paraphrasing his answer, he said, while there was sometimes other science fiction and fantasy paraphenalia, Star Trek was the most consistent and when he referred to a majority of the arrestees being Star Trek fans, it was Star Trek specific.

A weird factoid. Nevertheless, it is not correct that "all but one ... in the last four years" was a hard core Star Trek fan.



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[info]__kat__
2005-05-02 08:00 pm UTC (link)
if any fandom encourages pedophilia I'd say it would be anime.
Anime, where they draw characters that look 18 and then tell you that they're 15. But... But... I don't want to be a pedo! But...

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[info]panthea
2005-05-02 09:11 pm UTC (link)
Or characters that are supposed to be 18, and look, like, five.

Son Goku, I'm a-lookin' at you.

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[info]llama_treats
2005-05-02 08:48 pm UTC (link)
I would think that owning Voyager DVDs would make you a masochist, not a pedophile.

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[info]phosfate
2005-05-02 09:00 pm UTC (link)
*nods* Or a coprophile.

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[info]selenis
2005-05-03 07:33 am UTC (link)
But... I like Voyager more than DS9... Is that so wrong?

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[info]sassyinkpen
2005-05-02 09:00 pm UTC (link)
I own Babe too...I must have a latent desire for beastiality.

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[info]dragonscholar
2005-05-02 09:07 pm UTC (link)
Only if you own the sequel. THEN that shows how dedicated you are.

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[info]notjo
2005-05-02 09:20 pm UTC (link)
No, apparently to be that you need to have a furry based icon.

Or is it just an animal based icon? I can't keep all the "proof that everyone who's a fan of something is obviously evil" straight some days.

*grin*

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[info]backfromspace
2005-05-02 09:21 pm UTC (link)
It has something to do with a fantasy world where mutants and monsters have power and where the usual rules don't apply

This man has never watched an episode of Star Trek in his entire life.

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[info]phosfate
2005-05-02 09:24 pm UTC (link)
Or he minored in physics.

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(no subject) - [info]backfromspace, 2005-05-02 09:25 pm UTC

[info]soleta
2005-05-02 09:25 pm UTC (link)
sounds more like X-Men to me. Because, of course, they're so easily confused.

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[info]ladysorka
2005-05-02 11:15 pm UTC (link)
He's too afraid of catching pedophilia.

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-02 09:28 pm UTC (link)
OT but check out the traffic spike on journalfen! (http://www.grokads.com/buy.aspx?zone=137) No doubt it's because of all the meta and the current anon hanging in [info]fw_debate.

*boggles at the wank*

*paranoidly deletes taped star trek epsisodes*

There are some scary and twisted people about.

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ataniell93
2005-05-02 09:31 pm UTC (link)
You're just annoyed that they're going to be putting out D-Con in Fandom Wank.

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[info]soleta
2005-05-02 09:36 pm UTC (link)
and the ads are only visible to anonymice.

do I smell a conspiracy? or are those Hinkeh's unwashed socks?

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-05-02 09:39 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-05-02 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Apparently being a "hardcore Trekkie" means that you own some Star Trek DVDs.

I guess I'm out of that club. I could pay rent for the price of the entire Star Trek: TOS.

Anon-o-trek

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[info]ladysorka
2005-05-02 11:17 pm UTC (link)
When they say "passing interest", what, does that mean "owns a copy of a The Wrath of Kahn"?

Because, you know, owning a copy of the Wrath of Kahn just means you like good movies. Now, if they own a copy of Star Trek V or the complete run of Voyager, then we can talk.

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[info]llama_treats
2005-05-02 11:36 pm UTC (link)
[Insert obligatory Khan link here]

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Is it wrong... - [info]castellated, 2005-05-03 12:59 am UTC
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[info]gorogoro
2005-05-03 01:33 am UTC (link)
Somebody better turn in Lee Goldberg while they're at it.

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[info]aycelcus
2005-05-03 01:56 am UTC (link)
O.o I was into Trek from a very young age. Did owning ST:TNG vhs tapes at age 12 make me into an underage pedophile? Did making my own uniform out of black and red turtlenecks mean that I was secretly USTing over the other kids in my neighborhood? And what now? I still like trek, but I don't follow it with the fervrent passion I did as a kid. Does that mean I am reformed, or something? Maybe I am just in remission, and the next good Trek movie will make me roar back into life and start lusting after hot young anime bishies children? *ponders the batshit insane-ness of it all*

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-05-03 06:13 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-05-03 02:14 am UTC (link)
Paraphrasing his answer, he said, while there was sometimes other science fiction and fantasy paraphenalia, Star Trek was the most consistent and when he referred to a majority of the arrestees being Star Trek fans, it was Star Trek specific.

'Cos it's not, say, because Star Trek is one of the oldest and most market-saturated media franchises out there, so even people with no real interest in sci-fi stand a fair chance of having a video or two. And of COURSE it's not because "Trekkie" has been synonymous with "maladjusted loser" for well on thirty years now, so even hopelessly out-of-touch cops know what to think when they find Trek stuff.

I guess we're all lucky that the cops didn't glom onto Harry Potter. Imagine what a firestorm that would be.

/wank off

-- Issendai

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(Anonymous)
2005-05-03 05:15 am UTC (link)
anyone want to take this sg-1 wank (http://www.livejournal.com/users/tafkarfanfic/108143.html?thread=1018991#t1018991) and run with it??

Major players include: our own nostalgia [info]nostalgia_lj, [info]tafkarfanfic, [info]carolyn_claire and various anonymi.

Includes: hetfen = homophobes, slashfen = misogynists (no jennyo, tho, sorry), featuring [Unknown LJ tag] as a gaytopia, percentages of gayness, probabilities of gayness, revenge stories being written, disavowal of said story by author, deleted posts by author, mysterious anonymous "sister" coming to the defense... also lions, tigers, bears, and a little Daniel Jackson bashing (yay!).

more reasoned discussion, but still erring on side of wank goes on in [info]nostalgia_lj's journal here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/nostalgia_lj/755697.html).

Have fun!

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[info]narcissam
2005-05-03 04:48 pm UTC (link)
And here I thought the Toronto vice crime squad were all in jail at the moment.

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Joining in the mocking the LA Times logic
[info]necronomist
2005-05-04 03:59 am UTC (link)
You know, I was once told that the single most conficated items from child molesters were children clothing catalogs.

So, Sears catalog = potential pedo?

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[info]jun_motomiya17
2005-05-04 11:35 am UTC (link)
I wonder if someone has pointed out that factoid to Michael Jackson's lawyers? No one expects the Star Trek Inquisition, after all.

Okay, I'm terrible at jokes.

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