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clover_elf_kin ([info]clover_elf_kin) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-05-21 21:40:00


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Entry tags:anime/manga, fandom: fruits basket

War is peace. Love is hate. Canon is fanon.
My first reported wank! Thanks to Aya (whose JF name I don't know) for directing me to it.

Over on [info]fruits_basket, [info]kouri_shien asks for spoilers about Rin and Haru's relationship beyond book eight. [info]meli_p replies, "Haru/Yuki is purely cannon, unfortunately. ;_; "

[info]kouri_shien's reply is only to mourn the lack of yaoi, without asking what [info]meli_p meant by calling a nonexistant romantic relationship "cannon". No wank so far.

However, [info]meli_p then repeats her mistake by saying, "It's sad. All the gay we wanted, in the end.. it's all proven canon." Buh? It's possible she just got "canon" and "fanon" mixed up, since they are only one letter off from each other . . . a few lines down, [info]kireisarah speaks up with, "I think you mean 'fanon.' And o noes!!1"

The wank begins when [info]meli_p replies, "I think I don't."

In a different subthread, [info]linachu points out again that fanon is very, very different than canon. [info]meli_p retorts, "Personal opinion, I think that pairing is canon. I know the difference, thanks." When it's pointed out that Haru/Yuki is more fanon than canon, she argues, "No, Haru/Rin is the storyline." [info]meliachu wins the thread for her answer, "So... in other words, you're saying that if you want a pairing to be canon, then it is? Does that mean that if I decide I wanted to say that Hitler/George Washington were a real pairing, it would be true?"

The rest of the thread has its interesting moments too . . .



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[info]sarajayechan
2005-05-22 08:19 am UTC (link)
The heterophobic yaoi-humping gab session between meli_p and kouri_shien is just precious. *snickers and honors it by using this icon*

I like furuba_ooc's icon, though. Rin has some NICE cleavage.

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[info]teleute
2005-05-22 12:46 pm UTC (link)
Yuki/Tohru/Kyo love is always a good thing.

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[info]hypno_jango
2005-05-22 08:27 am UTC (link)
I'm about to get into Fruits Basket because my friend wants to do a FB cosplay next year. I can't wait to get into it but I'm staying away from the fandom. I'll just make a shrine to the author or something to make up for not caring about the pairings. (I only saw two episodes so far but I have to worship the author after what she did to the fanbrats.)

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[info]spiderflower
2005-05-22 08:30 am UTC (link)
Oh, everyone secretly knows that the one pairing in the show is The Entire Sohma Clan x Tohru anyway. Including the bunny boy who looks as if he is eight.

I love the "Ew I hate het stuffs I'm not reading the rest of the series!".

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[info]mistressrenet
2005-05-22 07:15 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, one of the things I found so appealing about FB was it wasn't canon gay but it wasn't het het het either-- there was Haru's crush on Yuki and Aayame's...existence, and it feels like later books of the manga really back away from that. "No! Everyone's straight! Look at Haru's Great Love for a Girl!" I haven't actually read anything not published in the States yet, so I don't want to pass judgement, but that...I don't know, freewheeling aspect of it was really appealing to me and I'm sad if it's gone.

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(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-05-22 09:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-05-22 09:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tarahime, 2005-05-22 09:37 pm UTC

[info]visp
2005-05-24 08:28 am UTC (link)
*snicker* and the entire Sohma Clan on their own.

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2005-05-22 08:38 am UTC (link)
Bzuh ... ?

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[info]penguinfaery
2005-05-22 09:30 am UTC (link)
Call me crazy, but wouldn't Haru constanly glomping the guy and declaring his love for him make it a bit canon?

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[info]clover_elf_kin
2005-05-22 10:31 am UTC (link)
Not to mention that he told Tohru (whom he'd just met) that Yuki was his FIRST LOVE . . .

But sadly, much as I love that pairing, in canon it's completely one-sided. Haru means it when he declares his love, yes, but he also does it to drive Yuki nuts. ^^ I can see Yuki returning the affection, maybe, but unless the mangaka does a Tsubasa-eque AU it's not going to happen.

Now, Kakeru . . . XD

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(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2005-05-22 11:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]clover_elf_kin, 2005-05-22 11:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2005-05-22 12:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wonderfish, 2005-05-23 06:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ianthefira, 2005-05-23 06:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]koyomi_mizuhara, 2005-05-23 04:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]penguinfaery, 2005-05-23 07:16 am UTC

[info]annabelle_lee
2005-05-22 10:46 am UTC (link)
Thank you, anime fandom of Fruits Basket! You may be short and woefully animated, but you have never been full of the batshit the manga is. but if the sequel ever comes, I don't know you.

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[info]hypno_jango
2005-05-22 02:43 pm UTC (link)
Unless FUNimation gets its way, then there'll be another season.

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(no subject) - [info]redmenace, 2005-05-23 12:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-05-23 01:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-05-23 04:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-05-23 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-05-23 05:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-05-23 05:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-05-24 12:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hooverdam, 2005-05-24 04:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-05-24 04:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hooverdam, 2005-05-24 04:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-05-24 04:25 am UTC

[info]kannaophelia
2005-05-22 01:42 pm UTC (link)
The term canon or cannon is used

Not if the user doesn't want a large lead sphere stuffed down their throat, thanks.

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[info]tapedeck
2005-05-23 03:08 pm UTC (link)
The cannon of extreme canonical justice?

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[info]loopywafflehead
2005-05-22 03:04 pm UTC (link)
Does that mean that if I decide I wanted to say that Hitler/George Washington were a real pairing, it would be true?

Can someone please reassure me that I'm not the only one who would totally read this fic if it were written? Pretty please?

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orangutan
2005-05-22 03:36 pm UTC (link)
I would so totally read it. Honestly, I think I would read any piece of fanfic which involved George Washington.

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[info]hypercubed
2005-05-22 07:21 pm UTC (link)
Hell no. I'd read it. And shudder, shudder, shake.

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(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-05-22 09:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2005-05-23 11:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2005-05-22 11:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-05-23 05:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2005-05-23 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-05-24 04:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2005-05-24 12:19 pm UTC

[info]shun_mcdaddy
2005-05-22 04:04 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I've got a friend who refuses to read anything past 8 juuuust because of the hetero.

Then are you reading the manga just for official jack-off material, ass?! Honestly, why can't you still enjoy the damn story and still slash the characters? If everybody were to play by the rules of the author's het couples, there would be no slash/yaoi fan pairings in general series at all in fanfics.

I think this girl reeks of Weiss Kreuz/Gundam Wing syndrome, if you know what I mean.

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-05-23 12:13 am UTC

[info]buttercat
2005-05-22 05:56 pm UTC (link)
Hitler/George Washington

Yay for Whose Line reference!

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[info]cyn
2005-05-22 07:15 pm UTC (link)
People who would rather not think of Rin see it as canon. I'm sure that everyone who sees the anime itself sees it as canon.

For some reason, I find her thickheadedness strangely endearing. I must be in one of my good moods. *pets the dingy*

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-05-22 10:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyn, 2005-05-24 04:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pepperlandgirl4, 2005-05-23 08:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyn, 2005-05-24 04:26 am UTC

[info]hypercubed
2005-05-22 07:21 pm UTC (link)
Does that mean that if I decide I wanted to say that Hitler/George Washington were a real pairing, it would be true?

ooh! Anne Rice/LKH, OTP!!

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(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2005-05-22 07:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hypercubed, 2005-05-22 07:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kachi, 2005-05-23 02:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hypercubed, 2005-05-23 07:24 am UTC

[info]jewishninja
2005-05-22 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Am I the only one very amused that "canon" was brought from "canon law", which is Catholic Church law. And then the irony that the fandom is calling a gay couple canon?

No, it's just me.

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OT, icon love. ^^ - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-05-22 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dakotapratt, 2005-05-23 03:51 am UTC

[info]jedi_miki
2005-05-22 10:36 pm UTC (link)
Thank you Fruits Basket fanon/canon for bringing more wankage into our lives!

I mean, I like yaoi as much as the next person, but I'd rather Rin/Haru anyway. Especially because it brings more angst to the yard via Akito. XP

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[info]oxydosic
2005-05-22 11:41 pm UTC (link)
So, this means if i write enough smut with my OT3 then it becomes canon? Sweeet.

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-05-23 07:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2005-05-23 01:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]killer_robot, 2005-05-23 09:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2005-05-23 01:27 pm UTC

[info]diamonde
2005-05-23 12:03 pm UTC (link)
This girl gets bonus points. Usually when people are abusing fanon/canon/cannon I can at least decipher what they probably mean. Having no idea of the actual canon probably doesn't help, but I honest to god have no bloody idea what on earth she's trying to say.

Really. None. I got so confused I couldn't even figure out the genders of the characters.

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(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-05-23 07:15 pm UTC

[info]redjackcash
2005-05-25 03:14 am UTC (link)
Fer reals, it seems like this girl confused the words "fanon" and "canon" and then tried to cover it all up with bad logic.

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