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Who knew Armageddon could be so barbecue-tasty ([info]mistressrenet) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-06-21 22:14:00


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Current mood:Gobsmacked

FMA, you may try, but you still got nothin' on Harry Potter!
This is all from the mousies at [info]wank_report, with a little more detail from me because, hey, I loves the detail.

Potter_cliche is an LJ comm devoted to, you guessed it, complaining about Harry Potter fic cliches.

A post about Lucius Malfoy is made. There are some pointed remarks about "Lucius fangirls" in the comments.

Lucius fan ataniell93 complains about it in a post. Her post is BAHLEETED, but she reproduces the full text here.

The mod then explains the Proper Way to Complain. (There's a good deal of spooge in the comments.)

Ataniell notes the deletion on her own LJ.

Is there more? Of course there's more!

Junediamanti complains about having to deal with wank in her own journal, and vents about the situation on another person's journal, calling the whole thing a personal vendetta (which hey, it may be-- who's got background info? Anyone? Bueller?)



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[info]memii
2005-06-22 06:10 am UTC (link)
I believe the mod said in the "How to Complain" post and said wanky or wank filled posts would be deleted for fear of being Fandom Wanked. (Irony!) Ataniell just got pissy because the mod saw her post as F_W fodder, it seems.

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ataniell93
2005-06-22 07:59 am UTC (link)
In the comments of my original post to Potter-Cliche, someone commented that they thought we would all end up on F_W. My response was basically, 'bring it' because I thought everything was fairly civil thus far and I don't particularly care if my public posts end up here, cause, well, they're public. June decided, after that comment, that I had staged the whole thing on purpose to get here. Or something. As if I couldn't get on here without involving her!

I told her if I wanted to wank I knew how. Unfortunately she either locked or bahleeted that conversation between me and her. It was on her journal. She was mad that I wouldn't email her privately, but, like I want to give someone I don't know who doesn't like me my email?

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(no subject) - [info]memii, 2005-06-22 08:16 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 08:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]baskinglizard, 2005-06-22 03:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-23 08:54 am UTC

[info]dommichan
2005-06-22 06:19 am UTC (link)
Dear people who get angry when their fave minor HP character is picked on---

Dude, the books are from Harry's POV. That means, everyone not Harry is treated somewhat insignificantly, including Hermione and Ron. So acting offended when someone points out the insignificance of your minor character du jour is really unwarranted.

Stop making those of us who are fans of Blaise and Seamus look stupid.

Sincerely,
Dommi

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[info]livii
2005-06-22 06:47 am UTC (link)
Seamus! God, I love Seamus. Ever-so-pleased to see another real Seamus fan about.

I also adore Dean and basically every Hufflepuff who ever breathed, but that's another story.

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(no subject) - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2005-06-22 09:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dommichan, 2005-06-22 05:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deludedvision, 2005-06-22 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]theamazingrando, 2005-06-22 08:53 pm UTC

[info]megmurry
2005-06-22 08:00 am UTC (link)
On the other hand, acting like Harry's perspective on any given character is all they can ever be in fanfic or analysis and giving them depth is pretentious fangirling is also unwarranted.

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(no subject) - [info]dommichan, 2005-06-22 05:32 pm UTC
*looks shifty eyed*
[info]prettyveela
2005-06-22 09:09 am UTC (link)
Seamus

*waves "Seamus is MY Half Blood Prince!" flag*

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Re: *looks shifty eyed* - [info]ailei, 2005-06-22 04:05 pm UTC
Re: *looks shifty eyed* - [info]dommichan, 2005-06-22 05:57 pm UTC
Re: *looks shifty eyed* - [info]deludedvision, 2005-06-22 08:13 pm UTC

[info]marylake
2005-06-22 11:04 pm UTC (link)
I fricking love Blaise. I'm actually terrified of HBP coming out because he's supposed to be in it and you just know that canon!Blaise will never live up to fanon.

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(no subject) - [info]moriath, 2005-06-23 12:10 am UTC

[info]rogue
2005-06-22 06:21 am UTC (link)
Trying to read the comments (in the mod's post) is mind-bending. I don't blame ataniell93 for getting so riled up - I'm ready to reach through the internet and slap some of these people, and I don't even like Lucius.

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[info]mortifyd
2005-06-22 06:25 am UTC (link)
Agreed. She's got strong opinions, but she generally states them fairly clearly and the wank is not automatically her fault. I've been watching this one develop on my flist.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-22 12:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2005-06-23 07:25 am UTC

[info]livii
2005-06-22 06:39 am UTC (link)
I don't blame her, but I am unbelievably amused by the fact that she made at least five posts in a row on her journal about it (possibly more, who knows what got flocked?)

I mean, there's getting riled up, and then there's just exploding all over the place. I dunno.

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(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-06-22 06:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 06:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-06-22 06:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 07:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]biichan, 2005-06-22 07:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 07:59 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 08:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 08:14 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 08:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2005-06-22 06:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 06:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2005-06-22 07:52 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 08:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 08:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-06-22 07:13 am UTC

[info]katienichol
2005-06-22 07:07 am UTC (link)
I agree. Junediamanti made one of those obnoxious posts questioning the reading skills of Lucius fans that pissed me off hugely, and I'm not much of a Lucius fan either. I just think that people should be able to choose which characters they like without having their intelligence called into question. You fantasize about what other large appendages Dobby might besides his ears? Neat! I probably will pass on your fic, but I also won't call you an idiot. Because I'm not judgemental (you sick bastard).

Besides, I thought Ataniell was pretty polite, and the responses she got were also very civil.

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(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 07:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]katienichol, 2005-06-23 04:13 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-23 08:25 am UTC

[info]isobelsomething
2005-06-22 06:28 am UTC (link)
I think a lot of people knew from day one that Potter Cliche would be a wankfest. I'm kind of surprised it took this long.

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[info]gmth
2005-06-22 05:11 pm UTC (link)
You and me both.

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[info]cheezdanish
2005-06-22 06:29 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but the pink on Ataniell's LJ is of the evol. I looked at it for one second and my retinas ran off screaming, dragging the rods & cones behind. I am now typing this completely blind. I am surprised ia do not make mroe typose.

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[info]squib
2005-06-22 06:31 am UTC (link)
Add "?style=mine" on the end of the HTML link, it will reproduce the page in your LJ style.

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(no subject) - [info]cheezdanish, 2005-06-22 06:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squib, 2005-06-22 06:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2005-06-22 06:52 am UTC

[info]kannaophelia
2005-06-22 06:53 am UTC (link)
Pish and tush. I love commenting there because all the pretty pink makes me very, very happy. It's pink. Unfortunately I don't seem to have a properly pink icon on journalfen, so Chibiusa will have to do.

~sigh~ I want to kind of step in on one of the discussions and say that I think pretty nearly all of the wizard and witch folk feel threatened by Muggles and channel it into feeling superior, not just Voldemort's followers, but I don't have the energy for longwinded debate with strangers.

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(no subject) - [info]cheezdanish, 2005-06-22 06:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-06-22 07:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-22 08:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loki, 2005-06-22 08:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]biichan, 2005-06-22 10:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - bankai, 2005-06-23 06:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squeakytoy, 2005-06-22 11:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-06-22 12:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]squeakytoy, 2005-06-22 01:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-06-22 12:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2005-06-23 04:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]slackerbitch, 2005-06-22 07:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 07:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-06-22 07:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2005-06-22 08:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-06-22 04:52 pm UTC

[info]im_nucking_futs
2005-06-22 06:43 am UTC (link)
Anyone who isn't a Malfoy and signs them self as *blank* Malfoy automatically gets the WTF? card.

Anyway, I can understand ataniell93 position. God, the Lucius hate man. These people make me wish I had a "YOU out of my fandom" icon.

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(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-06-22 06:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-06-22 07:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2005-06-22 07:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-06-22 07:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2005-06-22 07:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-06-22 07:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]im_nucking_futs, 2005-06-22 07:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-06-22 07:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cjk, 2005-06-22 04:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2005-06-23 12:08 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 07:47 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 07:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]im_nucking_futs, 2005-06-22 07:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-06-22 09:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-23 12:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-06-23 12:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hobbitsexual, 2005-06-26 07:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-26 07:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]redjackcash, 2005-06-22 08:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]redjackcash, 2005-06-22 08:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]im_nucking_futs, 2005-06-22 08:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]princessdot, 2005-06-22 09:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-06-22 10:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 08:51 am UTC
Icon! - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 08:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-22 12:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]drworm, 2005-06-22 07:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-22 09:44 pm UTC
*rolls eyes*
[info]prettyveela
2005-06-22 08:00 am UTC (link)
For about two minutes, then she started bragging about her frequent appearances on fandom_wank, and I thought "Not via my comm, you don't!" and deleted the entire post.

I don't know ataniell did this or not but if she did, I never knew being wanked so many times was like a shiny new prefect badge wank of honour in my fandom scribbles "bighead wanker" on it.

If the community is about JKR canon, then I don't care what our interpretation of canon is, it's pretty cut and dry what Lucius is in her world. No matter how WE see him or complain about it, I wish people would get this through their heads when talking about JKR canon.

If it's killing you that Draco isn't going to be redeemed and fuck Harry in the ass while bartending in a goth night club in the dark, Remus/Sirius won't have the dream wedding with the reception at the Hilton, or that Lucius isn't going to cry on Dr.Phil that he was OMGABUSED by his mummy which is why he beats up Narcissa, then don't read book 6.

*wipes splooge off my face*

Dear JKR,

Just kill em all, our fandom deserves it.

Thank you,

PV

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icon! - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 08:06 am UTC
Re: icon! - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-22 08:14 am UTC
Re: icon! - [info]cynicelle, 2005-06-22 04:28 pm UTC
Re: icon! - [info]livii, 2005-06-22 05:13 pm UTC
*is amused* - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 08:26 am UTC
Re: *is amused* you should be - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-22 08:34 am UTC
Bwa? Put the crackpipe down. - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 08:46 am UTC
Re: Gah? I'm Rick James bitch! - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-22 08:56 am UTC
How nice for you :D :D :D - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 09:02 am UTC
(no subject) - ealusaid, 2005-06-22 09:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-22 09:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lavachequirit, 2005-06-22 11:07 pm UTC
Re: Bwa? Put the crackpipe down. - [info]adinaj69, 2005-06-22 10:28 am UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]white_serpent, 2005-06-22 11:41 am UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-22 12:59 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-22 01:07 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]nekoneko, 2005-06-22 05:04 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-23 07:34 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2005-06-22 06:17 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-23 07:32 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]iczer6, 2005-06-22 11:01 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-22 11:03 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-06-22 01:32 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2005-06-22 06:18 pm UTC
Re: *is amused* - [info]frau_eva, 2005-06-22 09:12 pm UTC
Re: *rolls eyes* - [info]im_nucking_futs, 2005-06-22 08:36 am UTC
Re: *rolls eyes* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-22 08:59 am UTC
Re: *rolls eyes* - [info]iczer6, 2005-06-22 09:36 am UTC
Re: *rolls eyes* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-22 09:43 am UTC
Re: *rolls eyes* - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 10:48 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2005-06-22 10:30 am UTC (link)
my problem has never been with bashing characters, but rather with bashing their fans.

*waves her [info]atainell93 fangirl flag*

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:D Thanks! - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 10:51 pm UTC

tourette
2005-06-22 03:18 pm UTC (link)
Has JD got rid of her horse's bum icon? It was great, it was a picture of a horse's bottom with the caption "Meet Lucius Malfoy". I personally thought that was a highly mature response that nobody could possibly argue with.

"You like Lucius? Well, Lucius is A HORSE'S BUM!!! Refute that, fangirls!"

Also, Potter_Cliche is already starting to stagnate, because there are only so many cliches in HP fanfiction and only so many ways of saying "There's no evidence that Draco Malfoy is abused." or "Tonks is NOT A MARY-SUE!" before it starts to get a little stale.

Plus, character-bashing is allowed, and JD is clearly using her powers to act the prize cock. It's one thing to say "We can't allow certain behaviour here" and another to say "You don't like being treated like crap on crackers? Well, hard cheese, it's MY COMM!"

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(no subject) - [info]electricchick, 2005-06-22 07:07 pm UTC

[info]funkyhelix
2005-06-22 05:04 pm UTC (link)

Has Atanielle told us anymore about her vagina yet? It's not a complete wank unless she overshares.

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(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2005-06-22 06:15 pm UTC
So sorry to disappoint you. - ataniell93, 2005-06-22 10:50 pm UTC
/blood tears
[info]supertetris
2005-06-22 08:56 pm UTC (link)
I hate hate hate hate hate Harry Potter wank. Because it is always too stupid to comprehend.
FINE, HP FANDOM. FINE! Keep wanking! Maybe I'll DIE!

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[info]ymfaery
2005-06-22 10:26 pm UTC (link)
...I'm surprised it took this long for a wank post.

Although I don't get the "4-5 posts in a row" finger-pointing other people are doing, since, you know, they were all within a day or two. Isn't it kind of natural for people to do sequential posts for batshit stuff later developments in the same day? It's not a guaranteed sign of "obsession" or whatever it's being called.

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(no subject) - [info]megmurry, 2005-06-22 10:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2005-06-23 12:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-23 12:13 am UTC

[info]snacky
2005-06-22 11:01 pm UTC (link)
This is the absolute best comment from the whole wank:

the HP books are, fandom notwithstanding, written as children's books

They're...WHAT? What's that you say? CHILDREN'S BOOKS? OMG NO SAY IT AIN'T SO!

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(no subject) - [info]mirabellawotr, 2005-06-23 02:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]quantify, 2005-06-23 02:52 am UTC
(no subject) - bankai, 2005-06-23 06:46 am UTC

bankai
2005-06-23 07:06 am UTC (link)
...fuh?

Okay. Thoughts:

1. The original post in question does not sound too wanky. Perhaps the mod is simply wank-sensitive. Either way: her comm, her rules, according to livejournal (unless I've misread their TOS).

2. Five posts about this? Five? Really. You needed five posts. Five. As in the number after four. Because this is CNN-worthy. Constant updates are a MUST on simple post deletion. Five.

3. If someone says "I don't care if this ends up on f_w" I'd suspect them of trying too hard. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't mention it. I suggest you get a dictionary and look up the word apathy.

4. If Lucius were on Survivor, I'd want an alligator to eat him after fifty wasps stung his privates and Mrs. Figg set fire to his hair...and Mrs. Norris took a crap on his knee. He's a bad man.

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(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-23 08:28 am UTC
(no subject) - bankai, 2005-06-23 08:38 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-23 08:50 am UTC
(no subject) - bankai, 2005-06-23 09:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]biichan, 2005-06-23 07:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - bankai, 2005-06-24 07:06 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-24 07:38 am UTC
(no subject) - bankai, 2005-06-24 08:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]goblin, 2005-06-24 11:36 am UTC
(no subject) - bankai, 2005-06-24 11:37 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-24 07:36 am UTC
(no subject) - bankai, 2005-06-24 08:08 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-06-24 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-06-26 07:30 pm UTC

 
   
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