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	hugsnkisses 2003-03-20 12:01 am UTC (link)
	coughsnortquack (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ereshkigal 2003-03-20 12:06 am UTC (link)
	gigglesnort Quack quack! The new OTP! Kittens/Ducks. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kimera 2003-03-20 09:07 am UTC (link)
	So would their pairing name be "Kicks"? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	phosfate 2003-03-20 12:13 am UTC (link)
	Every time I think I can't find a fuglier message board... (Reply to this)

	katemonkey 2003-03-20 12:15 am UTC (link)
	Yesss...and the Buffy/Angel fans got a whole bunch of people to donate money towards an ad in the Hollywood Reporter for "Angel/Buffy crossovers" and instead did an ad about Buffy & Angel's True Luuuuuuuuv! They are brilliant. I wish I could get a heck of a bunch of people to donate money for an ad... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	phosfate 2003-03-20 12:18 am UTC (link)
	It looks like a DeBeers ad. That is not a compliment. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	deeablo 2003-03-20 12:24 am UTC (link)
	I knew somebody here would know where to find that link. Thanks, katemonkey! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	katemonkey 2003-03-20 12:46 am UTC (link)
	I have also found, to prove that Buffy fans are officially fucking insane... All the Buffy campaigns. Okay, yo, I have got to start my own campaign. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2003-03-20 01:09 am UTC (link)
	I wonder if the Bring Back Doyle folks are still plugging away... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	The Bring Back Doyle folks (Anonymous) 2003-03-24 02:47 am UTC (link)
	Well, actually, we were ... until Glenn Quinn died this past December. That did put a rather final end to that particular campaign. Nice to see all those old banners are still preserved for posterity though! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: The Bring Back Doyle folks croneofelderfen 2003-03-24 03:36 am UTC (link)
	No longer anonymous! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: The Bring Back Doyle folks phosfate 2003-03-24 04:09 am UTC (link)
	The dead thing being kind of my point... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: The Bring Back Doyle folks croneofelderfen 2003-03-24 04:14 am UTC (link)
	... and mine. We didn't give up until then. Obsessive? Who, me? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ereshkigal 2003-03-20 01:11 am UTC (link)
	clicks the link and just fucking dies Though actually, I don't see any Kittens stuff on there... The poor little kittens are so left out. sobs dramatically, then snerks (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sorchar 2003-03-20 01:17 am UTC (link)
	How about a campaign to have these people committed, yo? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	darthtall 2003-03-20 01:28 am UTC (link)
	Oh my god, the MUSIC! dies (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lulinda 2003-03-20 01:43 am UTC (link)
	Dang, I didn't know that Glenn Quinn died. I need to get out from under my rock more often. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sajasma 2003-03-20 03:05 am UTC (link)
	It was barely a footnote anywhere, so it's understandable. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-03-20 03:12 am UTC (link)
	I'm all for the "Angel is dead. Get over it." campaign. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	giggle. snort. dafnap 2003-03-20 06:05 am UTC (link)
	ah, irony, it goes down smoothly like your mom.... -dafnap (Reply to this)(Parent)

	backfromspace 2003-03-20 03:57 am UTC (link)
	Lindsey/Dawn forever. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kimera 2003-03-20 09:11 am UTC (link)
	Bah! Bobby/Dawn is the TRUE OTP. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2003-03-20 04:55 pm UTC (link)
	Dude! Willow/Adam! It's so right! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	embitca 2003-03-20 03:20 am UTC (link)
	That ad makes me embarrassed to wear a Claddaugh ring :( (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lm 2003-03-21 11:11 pm UTC (link)
	Yo, at this point? I would think wearing a claddaugh ring would make you embarrassed to wear a claddaugh ring. My SOs and I briefly discussed the idea of wearing them, but then we watched that episode where Angel gives Buffy one, and about halfway through his "eternal love" speech we all retched and dropped the idea entirely. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	embitca 2003-03-21 11:24 pm UTC (link)
	Heh. That might be the case if I hadn't been wearing one since I was five years old, long before the existence of Buffy. Everyone in my family wears one. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lm 2003-03-24 11:08 am UTC (link)
	You know you could totally hold that against all the B/A fans, right? "I'm the biggest B/A fan ever! I was wearing the symbol of their eternal love before I was even born! It's in my genes and it's not in yours!" (Um. I'm not getting e-mails telling me about replies to my comments. That's...weird.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-03-20 12:35 am UTC (link)
	OMG! I can't believe you guys have never done the Ducks before. There is some priceless stuff there. Priceless. Whenever new spoilage came out last season it was always so funny to see how they'd try to put a B/A spin on it. Wankarrific. ~ipomoea~ (who has never posted here before, but waves hi to all the lovely, snarky bitches anyway) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	singe 2003-03-20 12:50 am UTC (link)
	Snarky Bitch waves back (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kyuuketsukirui 2003-03-20 02:38 am UTC (link)
	~~stabs you in the back while flinging shit~~ smiles and waves back Grace (Reply to this)(Parent)

	thepiratequeen 2003-03-20 04:40 am UTC (link)
	Whenever new spoilage came out last season it was always so funny to see how they'd try to put a B/A spin on it Because Buffy screwing Spike in alleys and at the Bronze and everywhere else was so obviously about Buffy and Angel's one true love. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

gelasius
2003-03-20 08:17 am UTC (link)

Because Buffy screwing Spike in alleys and at the Bronze and everywhere else was so obviously about Buffy and Angel's one true love.

Well, duh, Buffy _obviously_ only went for Spike because he's a vampire sired by the Childe of her One True Love unless you go by original season 2 canon in which case Spike's a vampire sired BY her OTL which really makes screwing Spike just like screwing Angel who she can't screw anyway because if she did, he'd go evil and walk around in hot leather pants blabbing on and on about how he's going to torture and kill Buffy and all her friends but really all he'll do is get better fashion sense and make Spike jealous by screwing HIS One True Love and rubbing it in his face, unless you're a BDSM A/S slasher in which case he's chaining Spike up in the basement and screwing HIM while Dru watches and then with Angelus on the loose Willow would have to go all black-eyed and scary again in order to return Angel's soul but maybe she'd do it differently this time and take away the curse so that Angel is allowed to have a moment of perfect happiness without turning evil and wearing leather because the love of Buffy and Angel knows no boundaries and will go on and on for all eternity until Buffy dies at a young age in the line of duty just like every other Slayer ever has but their souls will still know no other match for all eternity! bUufee 4nD 44nG33LLL 4-Ev3RRRRR!!!1111!!1!!LOLOLOMGwtf!!!1!!11!! D1sagRe33 and DI33 U B4STRARRRDDDSZZ!!111!!!

Buffy fans are weird. I don't know how people can follow that show.

Pfft.

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	sagralisse 2003-03-20 04:50 pm UTC (link)
	OgM WtF!!!!!11111~~~~ Thran si here~~~~~~ OLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 babeLaMeR, you R0Xo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1~~ Didja bring your Kalashnikov? (Reply to this)(Parent)

kirarose
2003-03-20 05:38 pm UTC (link)

Breathe! Whew, you okay? I almost passed out trying to read that all in one breath.

heh, I originally said something else here, but realized it was stupid so... take two... 9_9

Anyway, try following the entire X-men universe thing from beginning to end particularly when you get to the Jean Grey, Maddie Pryor, Phoenix, yadda yadda yadda, then the different time line children of the different pairings that invariably always end up in the same time stream at some point not to mention when the entire universe goes bonkers and decides to flip flop and you end up with strays showing up in the real one once things are 'straightened back out'.

::takes a deep breath::

Trust me, you haven't lived till you've tried to map out X-men. It is like a soap opera on crack!

BB

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allen
2003-03-21 08:00 pm UTC (link)

On crack, heroin and LSD. I've found it's best if you don't try to actually follow along, just nod and look at the pretty pictures.

I finally had to quit reading the books after Chris Claremont came back to writing them. I thought it would be better and no, we just got eighteen thousand NEW villains, eighteen thousand NEW characters that appeared for three issues and were never seen again, and... oh look! more recycling of storylines. Bleah.

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	rhi_silverflame 2003-03-20 02:35 am UTC (link)
	uncontrollable snickers from a Kitten Board escapee (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2003-03-20 07:17 am UTC (link)
	flashes back to Mulder/Scully shipper wars develops uncontrollable nervous tick (Reply to this)

	kimera 2003-03-20 09:17 am UTC (link)
	Why does the phrase "the one who holds your heart" make me think of that ep where Angelus gave Dru a human heart as a present? (Reply to this)(Thread)

the one who holds your heart

gelasius
2003-03-20 09:36 am UTC (link)

***
ANGEL: 'Cause I could see your heart. You held it before you for everyone to see. And I worried that it would be bruised or torn. And more than anything in my life I wanted to keep it safe... to warm it with my own.
BUFFY: That's beautiful. Or taken literally, incredibly gross.
***

I have no idea why I posted that. It seemed relevant.

~ "There was nobody getting over Buffy and Angel. Just nobody." Joss, on season 4 and the failure of B/R ~

Yeah, poor Riley, man. Most underappreciated nice guy in fandom. The characters all liked him, which is more than you can say for any of Buffy's other boyfriends, and yet the fans just couldn't realize that true love does not overcome all and IT NEVER WORKS OUT YOU SUCKERS!!! MUAHAHAHAHAH!!!

That's what it's really all about. Sabatoging our god-given right to cling slipperily to the idea that first love is true love is forever. Screw you, Joss Whedon.

::strews confetti::

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	Re: the one who holds your heart lulinda 2003-03-20 09:40 am UTC (link)
	But Riley was boooooooooooring! Heck, Angel was pretty booooooooooring too! Buffy/Angelus was much more exciting. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: the one who holds your heart gelasius 2003-03-20 09:56 am UTC (link)
	But Riley was boooooooooooring! What?! Blasphemer! How durst thou sully the good name of Riley Finn, corn-bred Iowan? I oughta -- okay, so he was boring. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: the one who holds your heart pradaloz 2003-03-20 05:04 pm UTC (link)
	Buffy/Angelus 4EVA!!!!!!111 (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2003-03-20 03:44 pm UTC (link)

But really, if you're not reading the Spike-bashing, you're just not getting the full Ducks experience. That's where the real insanity is. Check out this thread (http://pub165.ezboard.com/ftheducksversefrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=3688.topic&start=1&stop=20) where they were trying to start a letter writing campaign to EW after they picked Buffy and Spike as one of "TV's Hottest Couples." Ah, the righteous anger just goes down so well in the morning.

I'm appalled that your magazine would promote such an unhealthy relationship that involved attempted rape, violence and abuse, let alone imply that the two characters involved are *soulmates*.

Yeah, cause Angel trying to kill her and end the world was just such a healthier relationship. Heh. I'm not sure what's more amusing. The attempt to turn a TV relationship into a social debate, or the fact that their real anger seems to be about EW daring to use the word "soulmates" for a couple other than B/A.

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	pradaloz 2003-03-20 05:03 pm UTC (link)
	Feh! I think the abuse in the Buffy/Spike relationship is evidence that they are the One Twu Soulmates 4EVA!!!!111 I mean, you only hurt the one you love, right? Right??? You know what Buffy fandom needs? An Anti-Ship movement. It'll be the movement that hates everybody. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2003-03-20 06:05 pm UTC (link)
	Wow. Sign me up for that one! (ostentatious) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-10-07 01:55 pm UTC (link)
	sheepish former B/A shipper. Um, I wish I could deny all this, but like, I pretty much used to make the same comments from within, so... hypocritical. Also, there used to be a 'Screw Men, Buffy needs a Vibrator' movement. Which never quite got off the ground enough to be interesting. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-03-21 03:41 am UTC (link)
	Both the ducks and the kittens are where I go when I'm missing my daily dose of delusion. I just fucking hope that Joss doesn't make them RIGHT by bringing B/A together at the end of the show. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2003-03-23 07:56 am UTC (link)
	I just fucking hope that Joss doesn't make them RIGHT by bringing B/A together at the end of the show. That wouldn't make them right - it would make them a mob of squawking two-year olds that Joss tosses a packet of chocolate biscuits to, to make them shut the fuck up. (Reply to this)(Parent)