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Roffling all over the wanking world ([info]adora_spintriae) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-06-26 15:58:00


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Current mood:back in the wank
Current music:Mia -EPK

Because it's about more than the ships...
[info]connielane posts commentary on fan behaviour she has supposedly observed recently.

We have "Harry and Draco not being a super evil-fighting duo = nonredeemed!Draco" (cos we all know there's only black-&-white in the HPverse), abuse of the term "irony", everyone's favourite ESL Molly-hata pointing out the obvious, "Criticism gives critics a bad name" and canon nit-picking and interview canon, among other things.

It then spreads out from here, to here in [info]gryffindor_phan's journal, and yeah, it's still not about the ships</s>.



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bankai
2005-06-26 10:25 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but I agree with the OP. There are inconsistencies in other author's books as well - and when people make wanky posts about it, I think "WTF? Didn't you just say you LIKED the book? Why the hell do you keep reading if they're such a hack? Nevermind that: why do you keep writing fanfic based on crappy writing?!"

JKR is not my favourite writer but any means. My favourite author (see icon) makes tons of punctuation mistakes. I still read him because what the hell, it's a small detail and it doesn't take away from the story if he forgets to close quotation marks. Getting uppity about prefect points or some shit...I just don't get it. You've got TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS WHICH YOU SHOULD SPEND PETTING SHEEP AT THE ZOO, in my opinion.

It's fine to mold a character in fanfic to the way you see them. But I think it sucks to get mad at the author for not allowing your fanficcy dreams to come true.

They're HER characters, HER story - she's got the copyright, not us. Bitch all you want, I guess, but you look stupid doing it.

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bankai
2005-06-26 10:26 am UTC (link)
Er, this was the icon I meant to use.

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*hic* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-26 01:39 pm UTC
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[info]prettyveela
2005-06-26 01:01 pm UTC (link)
*nods* See and the thing that Connie was saying was "Go ahead and bitch!" she gets that(book 5 was not a favorite of many of my friends, while I loved it) her main thing in posting that was because in the wanky part of the fandom(shippers, Draco fangirls, Snape fangirls, whutever) a fair amount of us have decided ahead of time that if JKR writes XYZ(or if she doesn't write it a certain way) that JKR is a hack and SUCORZZZ!11!! as a writer.

Well heck can we all wait until book 7 and have all the pieces before we crucify JKR as the suckiest writer of all time? I'm just sayin. :\

I personally think you can critise work and still love the author, but some of these people need to cut the shit and just admit that they want a ship to happen to stick it to ABC on XYZ ship.

Oh July is going to be wanky, yes it is. *rubs hands together* Wooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

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[info]mistressrenet
2005-06-26 07:33 pm UTC (link)
Well...I agree to a point. Yes, it sucks to get mad at the author for not allowing your fanficcy dreams to come true. But I think it's legitimate to express disappointment, anger, frustration at a storyline you don't like, or a plot twist that seems unearned, or whatever (not in the HP fandom, just talking in general terms). One of the big appeals of Fruits Basket for me was the sort of freewheelingness of sexuality there-- Haru's crush on Yuki, Aayme's...existence, and it seems like the mangaka in later volumes leans more toward THESE PEOPLE ARE HETEROSEXUAL, yo. It's her manga, and she can do what she wants. But I'll still be disappointed if that's the case because one of the things I liked most about the series will be gone.

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ataniell93
2005-06-26 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Hope you feel the same way about Anne Rice, Joss Whedon, Laurell Hamilton, and George Lucas. It's not possible at all for a creator to fuck up. Not a bit.

You know what else?

It's my free time, and I only like sheep on my plate or as clothing. So bite me, if I have free time I'll do what I feel like doing, and if that's writing a 10 page deconstruction of JKR's universe, well, the lj-cut is there so you have a choice about reading it.

I'm so tired of hearing people say that if you spend a lot of time criticising something you must not like it. If you don't know what it feels like to really love something and at the same time find it flawed in ways that are sometimes really disturbing, good for you. Have fun at the zoo.

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Wooooooooooooo!!! - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-27 12:06 am UTC
*baffled amusement* - ataniell93, 2005-06-27 12:18 am UTC
Re: *baffled is right* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-27 12:25 am UTC
Ew. - ataniell93, 2005-06-27 12:31 am UTC
Re: *grin* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-27 12:33 am UTC
Re: *grin* - bankai, 2005-06-27 01:17 am UTC
Re: *AHAHAHAHAHAHA* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-06-27 05:45 am UTC
*DED* - ataniell93, 2005-06-27 07:42 pm UTC

[info]squeakytoy
2005-06-26 10:58 am UTC (link)
*sings*

Fandom! How I love ya! How I love ya!
My HP Fandom!

There's gonna be spooging after HBP comes out. So much spooge.

I can't wait!

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[info]nights_mistress
2005-06-26 12:00 pm UTC (link)
You have to love a fandom that splooges about HBP before it comes out. That amazed me.

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[info]xero_sky
2005-06-26 11:18 am UTC (link)
*embraces the nice, normal, shiny fandom bitchiness*

I can't wait until July.

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[info]prettyveela
2005-06-26 01:03 pm UTC (link)
Remember the wank about the D/Hr shipper who was so upset about JKR sinking her ship that she sent a letter to JKR with evidence of the t00by love of D/Hr? XD

July will be like that times 10, lol

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(no subject) - [info]reddiej, 2005-06-26 02:28 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2005-06-26 06:27 pm UTC
found it! - [info]loopywafflehead, 2005-06-26 06:36 pm UTC
Re: found it! - [info]coffee_mug, 2005-06-26 07:17 pm UTC
Re: found it! - [info]rogue, 2005-06-26 08:14 pm UTC
Re: found it! - [info]singe, 2005-06-26 09:54 pm UTC
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[info]mindset
2005-06-27 01:48 am UTC (link)
HPB MAD GIP!

(and for my next trick, I'll make another coherent post entirely in abbreviations and/or caps)

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(no subject) - [info]marumae, 2005-06-28 08:03 pm UTC

[info]reddiej
2005-06-26 12:52 pm UTC (link)
Still trying to figure out why that bitch, gryffindor_phan, deleted my comment saying that the OP was reeking of wank, ah well.

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I'm so sorry, did you mean this one? - [info]gryffindor_phan, 2005-06-26 11:53 pm UTC
Re: I'm so sorry, did you mean this one? - [info]reddiej, 2005-06-27 12:02 pm UTC
Re: I'm so sorry, did you mean this one? - ataniell93, 2005-06-27 08:10 pm UTC

[info]photosinensis
2005-06-26 03:12 pm UTC (link)
Ah, I love the smell of HP wank in the morning!

No comment on this, as I really don't feel like wanking today, as if I do comment, I will wank. Too tired.

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[info]llama_treats
2005-06-26 05:03 pm UTC (link)
Quoth the whiny shippers, "Cater to MEEEEEEE!"

(P.S. - Guys, I read the advance copies of books 6 and 7, and everybody dies, alone and sexless. In my opinion, that makes JKR the best writer EVAR!)

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-06-26 11:22 pm UTC
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[info]coffee_mug
2005-06-26 05:21 pm UTC (link)
I'm trying not to have any large expectations (shipwise, theorywise) because I don't want to be largely disappointed.

Lessons learned in the HP fandom:

1. There will always be people in the fandom who don't like the books. Much or at all. They'll point out every single flaw they happen to think is there.

2. At the other extreme, there are the people who really like the books and will defend ANY decision made by Rowling until it kills them.


Sanity is usually located somewhere in between.

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[info]im_nucking_futs
2005-06-26 06:04 pm UTC (link)
Fresh wank in the morning...

I so agree with the OP. I mean, my ships will never become canon and I hope that H/G never ever becomes canon but I won't hate JKR if she makes it canon. i'll just continue to write fic and mock all of the wankers.

God, July is going to be great for wank..

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(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2005-06-27 03:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-06-27 04:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2005-06-27 06:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-06-28 03:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]im_nucking_futs, 2005-06-27 05:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2005-06-27 07:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marumae, 2005-06-28 08:04 pm UTC
Denial, ain't just a river in Egypt...
[info]ballseyboo
2005-06-26 07:47 pm UTC (link)
It's always about the ships, always [ insert facepalm here ]. If there isn't a law out there, there should be one about the truthfulness of a claim being proportional to the amount of denial of the claimee.

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[info]absurdwords
2005-06-26 08:33 pm UTC (link)
I'm looking forward to July because of two reasons:

1. HBP: If JKR keeps up her standard, it will be a very entertaining read.
2. Splooge.

I &hearts my fandom.

Note to self: lay popcorn and booze in stock.

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(Anonymous)
2005-06-26 09:11 pm UTC (link)
Oho! Not use 'supposedly observed'. Here (http://s4.invisionfree.com/HMS_Harmony/index.php?showtopic=37) it is in all it's glory; enough JKR hate for everybody!

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What the... Am I out of the loop or something? - [info]ignatius, 2005-06-26 10:01 pm UTC
Re: What the... Am I out of the loop or something? - (Anonymous), 2005-06-26 10:13 pm UTC
Re: What the... Am I out of the loop or something? - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-06-26 11:24 pm UTC
Re: What the... Am I out of the loop or something? - [info]mindset, 2005-06-27 01:54 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-06-26 10:09 pm UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-06-26 10:47 pm UTC
I want to grab her and force her to use a spelling/grammar checker, does that count? - ataniell93, 2005-06-26 11:41 pm UTC
Re: I want to grab her and force her to use a spelling/grammar checker, does that count? - (Anonymous), 2005-06-27 12:11 am UTC
Well, I meant Blind-Eyed Diana, but yeah JKR could use some editing too. - ataniell93, 2005-06-27 12:37 am UTC
Re: I want to grab her and force her to use a spelling/grammar checker, does that count? - [info]funwithrage, 2005-06-27 11:52 pm UTC
Re: I want to grab her and force her to use a spelling/grammar checker, does that count? - [info]bunny, 2005-06-28 03:08 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-06-26 10:31 pm UTC (link)
I like not shipping. Life is simpler.

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(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-06-27 03:05 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-06-27 03:12 am UTC
Well, I lke the mice. - [info]supertetris, 2005-06-27 09:40 am UTC

[info]pyratejenni
2005-06-26 11:12 pm UTC (link)
Even if it is about the 'ships, so what?

All the "If (fill in ship of your poison) doesn't happen, I'll never read the books again/JKR is a shitty author/I'll leave the fandom!" is still right up there with "JKR doesn't write the Slytherins properly!" for sheer stupidity.

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[info]fandom_bitch
2005-06-27 01:53 am UTC (link)
Yanno, I kinda hope nobody ends up with anybody specific by the end of book 7 and there's one massive orgy, so even Snape will get a bit of nookie.

Either that, or Harry wakes up and it was all a dream.

That would piss a lot of people off.

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[info]karina
2005-06-27 01:04 pm UTC (link)
I must be weird or something. I just really enjoy the books on a superficial level and don't care that much about analyzing it oo deeply.

That said, I'm looking forward to new canon, period.

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(Anonymous)
2005-06-28 10:49 am UTC (link)
If I'm not mistake... Your icon is from Three Wolves Mountain right?

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(no subject) - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-06-28 10:50 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-07-08 09:19 pm UTC (link)
Okay, am I the only one who thinks that JKR needs to shut up about everything in interviews? It seems that she's just causing more drama. Allow the speculation, allow people to guess at what is going to happen. People ARE total drama queens when it comes to their favorite characters, and WILL stop reading if you tell them it's not going to be a certain way. Utterly idiotic.

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