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	(Anonymous) 2005-07-06 09:13 am UTC (link)
	For full amusment value, you should know that Cynthia Potts publishes with Torquere Press, an imprint founded by fanfic authors and other fen. Beautiful. A wank so self-fulfilling, even the Circle of Life can't top it. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	Oh Look. aycelcus 2005-07-06 09:14 am UTC (link)
	Lee Goldberg and his pack of pretentious writer friends are wanking. Again. Don't they ever get tired? Shouldn't it begin to burn after a while? Or are they using extra strength wanker lube? And Cynthia... you aren't making yourself look credible. Not at all. Bravo. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	sunhawk 2005-07-06 09:22 am UTC (link)
	ugh them again. so bored with that circle. (Reply to this)

	azhidahaki 2005-07-06 09:23 am UTC (link)
	So lets see...Lee bitches about fanfic writers not writing orginal fiction; fanfic writers write orginal fiction; Lee bitches about that too. My conclusion: Lee needs an enema (or five) to get his head out of his ass. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	sharonapple 2005-07-06 09:28 am UTC (link)
	Doesn't Lee ever stop jacking off? I don't even want to imagine the state of his boxers/computer chair/keyboard. Damn, I hope he pays his cleaning lady well. I wouldn't touch his laundry/computer area without a biohazard suit. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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mpoetess
2005-07-06 09:29 am UTC (link)

For full amusment value, you should know that Cynthia Potts publishes with Torquere Press, an imprint founded by fanfic authors and other fen.

That was in fact worth a guffaw or two. Though reading the discussion on Ms. Potts' blog, it looks like she wasn't aware of TP's fandom connections. Which, if you're not in fandom, is actually not that hard to miss - most Torquere writers, including the owners and editors, write under pseudonyms that are separate from both their more well-known fannish pseuds, and their real names. Many of the writers are fannish, but not all of them, and I'd imagine Cynthia Potts wasn't the only one who came in through completely mundane channels. (To which I say go Torquere; it's a sign of business success for a bunch of folks I really like.)

(That said, still funny - just because she's not being hypocritical doesn't mean it's not ironic as all hell.)

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pepperlandgirl4
2005-07-06 09:29 am UTC (link)

So Cynthia publishes with an e-publisher and runs with Lee's pack?

So fanfiction really is practice for writing...if you want to write for an online magazine featuring homoerotic stories.

I have a vague feeling that Lee's pack probably doesn't consider e-publishers to be real publishers, and thus, the writers they publish aren't real writers, and homoerotic stories aren't real literature.

Cynthia, sorry, but you're not a Real Arteest either. Better find a new pack to run with.

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flightstothesea
2005-07-06 09:57 am UTC (link)

I must confess to not having bothered to read Lee & co's self-aggrandising bullshit for fear of aneurysms, but am I the only one who sees a little homophobia lurking in the bit that

pepperlandgirl4 quoted?

Also, I found it amusing that Cynthia commented in

makesmewannadie's journal thanking her for being rational and telling people not to argue with the troll pack.

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	dark_puck 2005-07-06 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	The number of people worldwide into a particular segment of fanfic would probably have trouble filling a bar for a Thursday night set by your average garage band. Those who read it are even fewer. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! Oh, man, someone better tell the Harry Potter, LOTR, Star Wars, and varied anime fandoms that. I'm sure they'd be surprised. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	telegramsam 2005-07-06 10:11 pm UTC (link)
	Logic... does not... compute... explode My non-existant respect for the human race his dwindled further. I think I'm getting into negative numbers now, actually. (Reply to this)

(Anonymous)
2005-07-06 10:31 pm UTC (link)

I first found out about Lee a year or two ago at Godawful Fanfiction. If I remember correctly, he barged onto the GAFF boards with the mistaken impression that they were anti-fanfic in general, and proceeded to get pwned like a greased-up, spread-eagle Wilt Chamberlain groupie. I see little has changed. And after following all his wankery I'm still not sure what exactly he does. What does he write? Is it any good? Should I give a good goddamn?

Dear Mr. Goldberg: You're not as famous as you wish you were. At least not for your writing.

-B

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	inalasahl 2005-07-06 10:33 pm UTC (link)
	You know, I bet a lot of fen read Torquere Press stuff. I wonder if Ms. Potts has any clue she just pissed off a large segment of her potential audience. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	mastervex 2005-07-07 12:54 am UTC (link)
	Ha ha, Lee Goldberg again! (Reply to this)

	lurker32 2005-07-07 01:12 am UTC (link)
	Oh my God, Lee. Why have you not choked to death on your own bile yet? (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	shakeandbake 2005-07-07 01:21 am UTC (link)
	Doesn't Lee Goldberg seem to have an awful lot of spare time? (Reply to this)

	gorogoro 2005-07-07 03:00 am UTC (link)
	Oh my god, not Lee and his cronies again. The circle-jerk continues... I want to look, but I'm afraid my marathon-debugging-session-induced headache will suddenly and violently attack again if I do. (Reply to this)

	lock down (Anonymous) 2005-07-07 03:36 am UTC (link)
	I think he's sick of people trolling there. He's locked the journal down. The endless fascination Fandom Wank has with him is amusing. Now the trolls move on to Ms. Potts. Is there only one politically correct view to have on fanfic? And everybody else has to either toe the line or keep buttoning things down to avoid harrassment? No need to answer. Mouse in the House (Reply to this)(Thread)

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And again - I think it has a nervous twitch. - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 06:43 am UTC

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	ealusaid 2005-07-07 05:19 am UTC (link)
	I have this sudden urge to write 1632 fanfic and flaunt it just to make Lee Goldberg's head explode. Eric Flint actually knows how to treat fanfic writers: publish them! hides away her copies of soulsucking derivative junk. That is, the Grantville Gazette (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	Um...who the fuck is Cynthia Potts? (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	My favorite part on the Lee wank was when a fanfic hater compared fandom to Led Zeppelin. "They're loud, but there's only four of them." AHaha. I assume we should take that as a compliment, since Led Zeppelin had a MASSIVELY PROFOUND EFFECT ON THE WORLD. Talk about a backfired argument. -<3, wifey (Reply to this)(Thread)

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issendai
2005-07-07 07:44 am UTC (link)

It seems unlikely to me that Lee cares whether he is on fandom wank now, tomorrow, or forever. He is not in fandom. Only those in fandom care about fandom wank.

Hands up, everyone who wants to make him an honorary member of fandom? He's got the meager social skills, he's got the tenacious arguing style, he's even got a big ol' sheaf of fanfic--he could be Geeky Fanboy Type 23, subset "I'm not really a fan, I just act exactly like one."

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	pet 2005-07-07 06:18 pm UTC (link)
	I heart Lee Goldberg wank. It's just so hysterically sploogey! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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hearsawho
2005-07-08 04:36 am UTC (link)

Oh Lord, I can't not involve myself in new Goldberg wank.

Lee claims that he was "assailed" by a rabid fan lynch mob when he started writing for seaQuest. What he doesn't mention in his blog is that he made first contact, not the fans.

Anyone who watched seaQuest DSV in its first two seasons can attest to the drastic shift the series took when it entered its third season. Characterization went out the window, previously established relationships that were established in canon (not in fanfic, as Lee claims) were ripped asunder (here I refer specifically to Lucas and Captain Bridger's character-defining bond, as well as Lucas and Ben Krieg's friendship) for no particular reason, and the entire seaQuest world itself was turned on its head thanks to a convenient fastforward in time. The fans, predictably, thought it was crap and spent a good amount of time bitching on fandom forums about it.

Lee, somehow or another (it's entirely possible that some fans wrote to him directly, I'm not sure) learned of the forum discussions, and took it upon himself to wade into the fray under the pretext of "answering fans' questions" which is Lee-speak for telling them to fuck off and die for not understanding his ARTISTIC VISION. Things degenerated quickly and an all-out flame war erupted in which Lee flung just as much shit as any of the fans.

Eventually, to calm things down, the producers told the fans they had permission to do whatever the hell they wanted (this referred specifically to fanfic) just as long as they'd calm down and stop sending hitmen to the production staff's houses.

Lee has hated the seaQuest fans with the fiery passion of a billion suns ever since, and by extension, fanfic, because OMFG THEY WON and what's more, dared to suggest that their fanfic was truer to the show than his scripts were (which is the basis for his statement in his blog that fans said he should look at their fanfic).

Since that time, he's been on a one-man crusade for revenge. Recently in one of his last fanfic rants, he posted a link to a journal which belonged to a seaQuest fanfic writer (who is a friend of mine) in an attempt to humiliate her in particular and discredit fanfic writers in general. He claims someone "sent" the link to him, but it's rather obvious that he continues to follow the seaQuest community and takes every opportunity to fire pot-shots when he can.

If you've ever wondered why he spends so much time bitching about fanfic and fans, well there you go.

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I need a bath now - (Anonymous), 2005-07-14 09:40 pm UTC

those arrogant slashers!
(Anonymous)
2005-07-08 07:13 am UTC (link)

Too bad Widdle Wee locked down his thread *koff* CHICKENSHIT *koff* because I'm sure this so-very-entitled nancyboy would have resurrected Teh Wank quicker than Lazarus:

There are also plenty of fanficcers who aren't all that keen on homoerotic fiction (mainly written by virginal women - yes, like they'd have ANY clue...), who are hardly homophobic (and may even be gay ourselves) and who are rather fed up with sharing their lot with this bunch of self-absorbed megalomanics. Regardless of fanfic's rightness or wrongness, I doubt many people would have a problem with it if it weren't for slashers' militant attitudes. They are clueless, unapologetic and arrogant and give the rest of fandom a worse name than it might already have had. I have no problem with slash itself, but wholeheartedly believe the people who write it and read it tend to go far beyond the pale in overstepping their rights and bounds.

Because you know, women have NO RIGHT to write about gay men.

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	(Anonymous) 2005-07-08 01:12 pm UTC (link)
	This guy drives me nutso. The thing is, he's just so damn arrogant. I bet he's never even tried to see it from the other side's view. - muhunny (Reply to this)

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