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El Juno ([info]eljuno) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-07-06 22:20:00
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Current mood: working

Just as an FYI, Journalfen has a new TOS. You might want to read it over.

Very carefully.


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[info]kannaophelia
2005-07-07 05:25 am UTC (link)
Oh.

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[info]xero_sky
2005-07-07 05:33 am UTC (link)
Journalfen.net also reserves the right, without limitation, to resell any portion of a user’s Journalfen journal back to that individual;

Hostages!! They're taking our journals hostage! *flails*

...

I have no idea what that means.

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[info]kadath
2005-07-07 05:37 am UTC (link)
This popped up in the LJ TOS when SA bought them. It means they reserve the right to sell an archiving/printing service in the future.

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(no subject) - [info]guineapig, 2005-07-07 05:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-07-07 05:48 am UTC
*points at your icon* - [info]the_wanlorn, 2005-07-07 05:52 am UTC
Re: *points at your icon* - [info]adora_spintriae, 2005-07-07 10:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2005-07-07 07:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shadowed_blade, 2005-07-07 10:57 am UTC

[info]kadath
2005-07-07 05:36 am UTC (link)
Huh. No severability clause.

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[info]miss_kitten
2005-07-07 05:43 am UTC (link)
Okay, so why'd elfy get the boot? Can somebody 'splain?

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[info]krazycat
2005-07-07 05:56 am UTC (link)
Elfy's account has been unsuspended.

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[info]eljuno
2005-07-07 05:57 am UTC (link)
Likely under this one.

We can terminate anyone's account if we feel that user is a detriment to the journalfen community. We won't do it lightly, but we do retain the right. If termination is due to violation of terms of service, no refunds will be made if the account is a paid account.

Or maybe this one.

We reserve the right to refuse service to or terminate the account of any user or potential user whom we determine has been involved in fan community conflicts, past or present, in excess of what most communities deem usual. Termination may be for an indefinite period of time.

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[info]xero_sky
2005-07-07 05:58 am UTC (link)
A look at his or her journal shows elfy was suspended for "verbal abuse of an admin". I'm guessing that included the part where s/he accused Robin of reading everybody's flocked journal entries.

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(no subject) - [info]miss_kitten, 2005-07-07 06:00 am UTC
Squeak squeak?
(Anonymous)
2005-07-07 06:32 am UTC (link)
All Fat People Suck. (http://www.livejournal.com/community/cosplayfucks/74252.html)

In other words, [info]cosplayfucks managed to come up with a wanky post again thanks to someone finding a cosplayer so overweight that they decided to harass her about it over MSN. Oh, and dragged a friend into it as well to make it two-against-one. Not to mention managed to annoy the majority of the community...

[/mouse report]

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Re: Squeak squeak?
(Anonymous)
2005-07-07 06:34 am UTC (link)
Sorry, didn't know about [info]wank_report. I'll toddle over there now.

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[info]shakeandbake
2005-07-07 06:49 am UTC (link)
But I really wanted to make a post about an exciting new investment opportunity that I learned about through an email from a reputable Nigerian businessman. I like to spread the word!

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[info]hellespont
2005-07-07 08:04 am UTC (link)
Screw your Nigerian businessman, the daughter of Saddam frickin' Hussein wrote me offering a chance to get in on the deal of the century! Also, someone Vietnamese wants me to do something, but since I learned all my Vietnamese from war movies I don't know what it is. Unless they want me to play a very dangerous game of Russian roulette, in which case I'm good to go.

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-07-07 04:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hellespont, 2005-07-07 06:17 pm UTC

[info]msilverstar
2005-07-07 07:06 am UTC (link)
Wow, that's a lot of room for interpretation. I'd like to see a committment to warnings before suspensions, cos it would be really depressing to lose one's whole journal suddenly.

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[info]sunhawk
2005-07-07 07:20 am UTC (link)
and?

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[info]aerobot
2005-07-07 09:58 am UTC (link)
4. You must be a participant in some entertainment media fandom.

7. No political or religious-based journals. They're not entertainment media related.

... So we have to be fans of some sort to use journalfen? Wuh?

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[info]wankprophet
2005-07-07 10:08 am UTC (link)
That's always been the case. Hence the "fen" part of Journalfen.

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(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-07-07 03:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-07-07 04:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2005-07-07 05:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-07-09 12:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2005-07-14 02:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-07-07 12:28 pm UTC

[info]lindentreeisle
2005-07-07 10:41 am UTC (link)
I think this is MY favorite part:

You agree that Journalfen.net, in its sole discretion, may terminate your journal or account, and remove and/or discard any content within the Service, for any reason . . . Paid accounts that are terminated will not be refunded . . . We reserve the right to refuse service to or terminate the account of any user or potential user whom we determine has been involved in fan community conflicts, past or present, in excess of what most communities deem usual.

Doesn't that include, like, everyone and everything associated with FW?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 11:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]teza, 2005-07-07 11:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 01:40 am UTC
Dude - [info]castellated, 2005-07-08 09:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]guineapig, 2005-07-09 07:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lindentreeisle, 2005-07-12 12:32 am UTC

[info]kraken_sleeps
2005-07-07 11:40 am UTC (link)
Under the You Will Not section: 8. Interfere with or disrupt the Service or servers or networks connected to the Service, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or regulations of networks connected to the Service; Journalfen.net reserves the right, at our sole discretion, to terminate any user suspected of network abuse;

I'm guessing that means no more HP/Lotrips/Cassie Claire/Crystal wanks, then...

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hmmmmm.. - [info]morgothik, 2005-07-07 01:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lasha, 2005-07-07 08:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-07-07 10:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]canisetlupus, 2005-07-07 11:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]guineapig, 2005-07-09 07:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]guineapig, 2005-07-09 07:10 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-07-07 01:38 pm UTC (link)
No political or religious-based journals

There goes [info]political_wank

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Re: BAD USERNAME, BAD! - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 03:18 pm UTC

[info]esorlehcar
2005-07-07 05:37 pm UTC (link)
Hmmmm. I'm glad it's actually written into the TOS now that people can be banned for pissing Robin and Zorro off, whether they break TOS or not - this isn't an unusual clause (we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, basically), but after the whole fandom_love thing they were claiming that wasn't case, and I think it's good that it's laid out now. Not making the site owners angry lays out a very different code of conduct than merely following TOS, and I think it's a good thing that people who use JF know that.

Abusing the server... I wish there was a bit more detail, because that's really vague. Did fandom_love count as abusing the server? Crystalwank was a smallish wank that blew up in a way no one could have expected... does that count as abusing the server? Lord, does acknowledging that the server crashes frequently count as abusing it?

Finally, it looks as if wank communities are now specifically banned by TOS, so I'm really unsure how that works regarding FW or any of the spinoff communties.

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(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2005-07-07 05:38 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-07-07 07:46 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-07-07 09:53 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]anatsuno, 2005-07-07 11:47 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-07 11:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-07-07 11:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-07-08 12:34 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-07-08 12:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-07-08 01:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-07-08 01:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]guineapig, 2005-07-08 12:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-07-08 01:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-07-08 01:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anatsuno, 2005-07-08 07:57 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2005-07-08 01:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 02:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-07-08 03:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 05:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-08 11:05 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-07-09 02:31 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-09 02:53 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]funkyhelix, 2005-07-09 03:34 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-09 03:53 am UTC
Better late than never - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-09 11:18 am UTC
Re: Better late than never - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-09 10:13 pm UTC
Re: Better late than never - (Anonymous), 2005-07-10 05:35 am UTC
Re: Better late than never - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-10 08:08 am UTC
Re: Better late than never - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-10 10:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]funkyhelix, 2005-07-10 06:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-10 06:13 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-07-11 01:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-11 02:01 am UTC
Re: Better late than never - [info]anatsuno, 2005-07-09 11:52 pm UTC
Re: Better late than never - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-09 11:58 pm UTC
First official act of mad with power - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-10 10:25 am UTC
Re: First official act of mad with power - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-10 12:01 pm UTC
Re: First official act of mad with power - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-07-11 09:41 am UTC
Re: First official act of mad with power - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-11 09:49 am UTC
Re: First official act of mad with power - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-07-11 09:52 am UTC
Re: First official act of mad with power - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-11 09:55 am UTC
Re: First official act of mad with power - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-07-11 09:57 am UTC
Re: First official act of mad with power - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-11 09:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-07-10 02:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oulangi, 2005-07-10 07:50 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2005-07-07 09:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-07-07 05:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2005-07-07 05:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]msilverstar, 2005-07-08 12:51 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-07-07 05:57 pm UTC (link)
It seems to me that a huge number of users could be booted under several of those terms.


The TOS are Robust!

Did [info]petpeeves have anything to do with the new additions? I know they were pushing for broken links to be fixed and offering to rewrite some sections.

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[info]photosinensis
2005-07-07 07:52 pm UTC (link)
We need to start planing for an exodus. NOW. JF has turned unfriendly to FW.

Might I suggest going to a self-hosted, Slash based system in which everyone has mod powers? It'd help get the trolling under some control.

We could even set up the entire F_W system there and have our own, more friendly TOS.

Mark my words: next time the servers go down, F_W will be TOSed from JournalFen.

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(no subject) - [info]memii, 2005-07-07 08:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-07-07 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 01:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-07-08 01:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 05:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2005-07-08 05:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-08 11:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-09 10:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]arielchan, 2005-07-07 09:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-07-07 11:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 01:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]guineapig, 2005-07-08 12:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 01:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]soleta, 2005-07-08 02:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]apoplexia, 2005-07-08 05:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 05:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-08 05:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2005-07-08 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]soleta, 2005-07-08 06:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-09 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2005-07-08 06:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2005-07-09 02:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2005-07-09 07:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-07-10 05:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-07-10 05:41 am UTC

[info]yamashitaaki
2005-07-07 08:44 pm UTC (link)
The little Yoda voice inside my head says "Boned, we are."

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(no subject) - [info]shakeandbake, 2005-07-07 10:06 pm UTC

[info]simkin_mouse
2005-07-07 09:51 pm UTC (link)
But what I fail to understand is whether even in the event of the new TOS changes affecting f_w critically, the community can or can't be moved. By all rights, should there be major changes to the code under which we've activated for so long, shouldn't the f_w mods be inquired whether they still want to continue with this service here? After all, these wouldn't be the same conditions under which they signed up for the community to be hosted, things will have changed...

...am I making any sense at all? Probably not. *le sigh*

Any a how, if people decide to move f_w to a forum base, give me a sign of sorts. I know some network programming, perhaps I could help.

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Stupid question, yes...
(Anonymous)
2005-07-07 11:57 pm UTC (link)
...but can someone tell the clueless, distracted mouse exactly who Zorro and Robin are? Mods of the community, or LiveJournal 'staff'?

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Re: Stupid question, yes... - [info]sunhawk, 2005-07-08 12:12 am UTC
Re: Stupid question, yes... - (Anonymous), 2005-07-08 12:23 am UTC
Re: Stupid question, yes... - [info]sunhawk, 2005-07-08 08:25 am UTC

  
   
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