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I'm in ur ljz, voilating ur safe space ([info]sabinelagrande) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-08-08 22:35:00


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Current mood:*sporfle!*

Harmony: The Reckoning
Over on LJ, angua9 posts an incredibly long anti-Harmionian manifesto, wherein she names names and accuses Harmionians of misunderstanding love and being elitist bitches.

The comments start out as shouts of "Word" and the like, though there's a lovely comment comparing Harmionians to Death Eaters in the middle. Somewhere around page two, the Harmionians show up, wondering why we can't all just get along.

There would be more links, but her layout makes it hard. It's been linked over at fanthropology, wherein the H/Hr shippers have thus far been compared to Randites and angua9 has been compared to the Sith.

Not too much wank yet, but it seems past the [info]clairvoyantwank stage.

Many thanks to the mousie on [info]wank_report.

ETA: Seems muddgutts, purveyor of the "Why can't we all just get along?", is no stranger to militant shipping. The wankiest bits:

This is muddgutts on angua9's LJ.

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Wow this is sad. Not the fact that you wrote this, but the fact that people of different ships just cant stop taking shots at each other.

I'm a H/Hr shipper and fan-artist. I'm not a crazy person that has jumped off the deep end because my chosen ship did sail. I dont debate these ships in forums or battle to prove which is the "right" one. I like the H/Hr ship because its my personal taste. I enjoy reading the fanfics and enjoy creating artwork for them too.

Now I'm not here to justify my ship or to convert anyone. Never was my thing to preach.

I'm posting a reply to ask if we can simple set all the fighting aside. All things like this post creates (and anti-Heron posts you sited) is more hate.

Isn't this about book? In a fantasy world? Can't we get back to having fun, and stop the all the finger pointing? Like I told other before. Its time to move on and get back to enjoying HP.

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Then there's muddgutts's latest post on his LJ.

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So I have 3 other co-workers in my group that read HP. Of course we had to go over this book too. I should first tell you that they are not shippers, and really don't know that I am either. So we started out clean.

All of them at first said, "I love this book it was the best one yet. Don't you think so too?"

Me: ". . . .not really, it was weak and had so many plot holes. I found it to be the worst honestly."

All of them: O.O ". . . . . . . . . . . wth are you talking about??"

hehehe and then I started pointing out all the mistakes and the shortcomings of the book. Two of them began to see my point and after a few minutes agreed with me. Hell one of them (an editor here at HC) started pointing out things that didn't follow the past books and really needed to be edited or changed. There was only one girl who stood her ground and didn't give in. Only to come to find out she really thinks Ron is a cutey and this book was great for him. sigh.......ok

The best part was they all loved Ginny and thought H/G pairing was great. Until I told them of her as his equal. The quote from JK. They shit a brick! "WTFOMG she is in no way his equal!!! HERMIONE is Harry's equal!!" Ahh the light has shown through and now they see the truth. Soon they where talk and saying, "Theres no way Hermione can stay with Ron very long. He's too dumb for her. It may be cute for a little bit, but she'll get frustrated very soon and dump him."

I was falling out laughing at this point. My work was done and two out of three big-fans of Hp see the truth of the new book. Life is funny that way. I find great joy in showing them the errors in the book and how easy it is to predict the future in book 7.

Have a great weekend everyone.

ETAA: And then, Falcon the Harmionian showed up and everything went really wanky. He replies to being wanked on his LJ, which more or less boils down to "LOL, I did it on purpose!"

ETAAA(?): He replied again after the last edit, which was more of the same boring posturing. Not linked, because it seems to be what he wants.

ETAAAA: She of little English phoenixwriter chimes in here. And by chimes in, I mean reposts large portions of the essay followed by "WRONG!"




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(no subject) - [info]thebratqueen, 2005-08-09 06:03 pm UTC

[info]senor_pinata
2005-08-09 07:09 am UTC (link)
I wouldn't be surprised if more wank came later, but I don't think there really is any now. The "Why can't we just get along?" bit seemed more naive than wanky and was only a brief splurt besides.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:39 pm UTC
Uhm... - [info]darkeyes, 2005-08-09 08:36 pm UTC
Re: Uhm... - [info]elektra3, 2005-08-10 06:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamtheenemy, 2005-08-09 09:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fandom_bitch, 2005-08-10 01:36 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 02:34 am UTC
WAHHHH I'M LOCKING MY JOURNAL! WAHHHH - [info]prettyveela, 2005-08-11 03:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-08-09 07:27 am UTC
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[info]pyratejenni
2005-08-09 07:09 am UTC (link)
Er... it's only been bandied about in the last three or four HBP wanks, but aren't the Harmonians the ones calling themselves the smartest HP fans?

They want to be elitist bitches. Sad, but there you go.

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(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-08-09 07:13 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 04:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 05:41 pm UTC

[info]tinybubbles
2005-08-09 07:16 am UTC (link)
Like the late, great Clara Peller, I'm spreading the buns and wondering, Where's the wank?

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[info]ctrlaltdlt
2005-08-09 07:16 am UTC (link)
All hail the power of ?style=mine.

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(no subject) - [info]alpheratz, 2005-08-09 07:21 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-08-09 07:25 am UTC (link)
Somewhere in China another fetus is being aborted thanks to the evil OBHWF shippers and their nasty essays.

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[info]ironymaiden
2005-08-09 07:39 am UTC (link)
...

Dammit, now I have to go play Suikoden again.

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(no subject) - [info]loki, 2005-08-09 04:39 pm UTC

[info]narcissam
2005-08-09 08:11 am UTC (link)
The Anonymous Wank report that inspired this is also rather amusing:

"This person seems to believe she has the right to judge the oppositor shippers and do an analisis of their motivations. The wanker needs to kick to fallen tree just to feel better herself."

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(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-08-09 08:15 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-08-09 10:09 pm UTC

[info]willywanka
2005-08-09 08:35 am UTC (link)
In a way, all this H/Hr wank makes me happy.

"Well, at least we're not as crazy as those nutty Harmonians" will be my new mantra.

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(no subject) - [info]ctrlaltdlt, 2005-08-09 10:23 pm UTC

[info]carylic
2005-08-09 08:46 am UTC (link)
And just as I was thinking it was over ... we had 3 non-hp wanks in a row. All good things ...

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(no subject) - [info]omega, 2005-08-09 05:30 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ultimate_cin, 2005-08-10 03:08 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-09 08:54 am UTC (link)
Oh look!

A reunion of Angua9's friendslist on Fandom Wank!

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(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2005-08-09 09:38 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-08-09 10:00 am UTC
(no subject) - thebitingfaery, 2005-08-09 10:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2005-08-10 12:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]thehunter, 2005-08-10 02:36 am UTC
(no subject) - thebitingfaery, 2005-08-10 02:43 am UTC
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(no subject) - thebitingfaery, 2005-08-11 12:32 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 10:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waltraute, 2005-08-09 04:42 pm UTC
I don't fucking think so! - ataniell93, 2005-08-10 01:39 am UTC
Re: I don't fucking think so! - [info]prettyveela, 2005-08-10 01:49 pm UTC
Re: I don't fucking think so! - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 08:15 pm UTC

[info]xero_sky
2005-08-09 09:07 am UTC (link)
Jesus fuck, that was scary.

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[info]hearsawho
2005-08-09 09:18 am UTC (link)
Ignoring for the moment what it must say about my life (or lack thereof) that I read the entire essay when a) I don't even like the books, and b) I don't know the first thing about the fandom aside from what I've learned here...

Let me just say that I'll give the HP fandom credit where credit is due -- they always make me feel better about my own mis-steps in my fandoms of choice.

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[info]jaina
2005-08-09 09:18 am UTC (link)
Well, it was on the verge of tl;dr, and it was pretty overblown and faux-academic...

...but it was true. Really, frighteningly true. I think I was happier before I started thinking about the H/Hr types in this much detail.

*goes and hides under her H/G rock*

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(no subject) - [info]the_mouse, 2005-08-10 09:47 pm UTC

[info]kerukeru
2005-08-09 09:25 am UTC (link)
I don't think I've slept since HBP came out. F_W/Insomnia OTP!

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[info]chikane
2005-08-09 09:34 am UTC (link)
Exactly what I was thinking when reading the essays on, say, Hermionepotter or portkey.

It is not wanky though. Some of the responses might be, but the essay is not. First, because it is simply true, second, because it does not target all H/Hr people and makes a point in doing so..
It has a reason certain H/Hrs are getting offended nevertheless. They know it is true, too. But who wants to look in the mirror after having acted that way?

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(no subject) - thebitingfaery, 2005-08-09 09:54 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-09 09:44 am UTC (link)
Wow, that essay is... long. I think those wankers are taking HP a little too seriously.
I wonder what happened to the: "MY SHIP IS BETTER" "NO, MY SHIP IS BETTER" "MY SHIP IS BETTER BECAUSE MY DOG HAS A TERMINAL ILLNESS" wanks. They were much more funnier!

It seems like the H/Hr wanks won't ever die...

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(no subject) - chief, 2005-08-09 02:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 10:01 pm UTC

thebitingfaery
2005-08-09 09:53 am UTC (link)
WANK WANK WANK WANK WANKITY WANK WANK

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[info]linzee
2005-08-09 12:31 pm UTC (link)
Woah.

That essay was...um...educational? Also, I'm not sure what it says about me that I sat and read the entire thing despite a) having never picked up an HP book or seen a movie and b) not giving a flying fuck if Harry ends up with Ginny, Hermoinie, Ron, Draco, Snape or the third Oompa Loompa from the left in the "Chocolate Room" scene in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Nonetheless...that explains a lot. And now every time I think *I* or my fandom is crazy, I will read that essay and say to myself, "at least I am not a Harmonian."

:goes to bed feeling validated as a human being through the craziness of others:

Linzee

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[info]aerobot
2005-08-09 01:38 pm UTC (link)
WHY IS THE HP FANDOM SO BATSHIT CRAZY!? WHHHYYYYYYYY!?!?

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Falcon the Harmonian posts
[info]prettyveela
2005-08-09 01:39 pm UTC (link)
Falcon was doing just fine with his post, and then teh crazy starts to seep out:

Harry was at birth equal to every other child, but by Voldemort selecting him, he became superior. Hermione was equal to every other child at birth, but by her diligence to her studies, she became superior. Ron has NO qualities that elevate him above the masses, nor does Ginny, or Neville. Now, JKR CHOSE to elevate Harry and Hermione, and she also CHOSE to keep the other characters inferior. She did this through writing them as being more powerful and smarter than their peers and having everybody and their dog remark upon it.

Not exact, but similar to Part 2 of the essay:


In the Harry Potter world (pre-Book 6) Harmonians universally agree that Harry and Hermione are important, morally worthy characters -- the hero and heroine of the books. Other characters that most Harmonians class this way are Dumbledore, Neville, Lily, and sometimes James, Remus, or Luna. Most other characters in the books are deeply flawed and on a lower level of humanity. Most particularly, Ron and Ginny Weasley are fatally flawed and unworthy.


More from Falcon:
To us, Hermione was someone that little girls could look up to and strive to be like. With HBP, all her rants about fairness and equality were forgotten and she became a hypocrite. We still love Hermione, but we mourn her transformation into somebody that we don't recognize.

From the essay:


It is important to keep all of the above in mind if you wish to understand the serious offense that J.K. Rowling has committed in "killing" or "raping" Hermione in Book 6. It took me a while to understand this. What Rowling did is give Hermione behaviors that, according to the Harmonian value system, moved her from the category of "worthy and important" to the category of "unimportant and unworthy."

*snip*

At some point, the Harmonian forgiveness and excusing of Hermione's foibles stretched beyond its breaking point, and the rebound was ferocious. As a result, not only is Hermione Granger "dead to them" in the style of Victorian parents in a melodrama, but she is now subject to the kind of treatment formerly reserved for unworthy characters like Ron and Ginny.



By George I think I'm finally GETTING IT. *jumps around like Tom Cruise*





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Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - thebitingfaery, 2005-08-09 01:48 pm UTC
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Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - [info]darkeyes, 2005-08-09 07:03 pm UTC
Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - [info]chikane, 2005-08-09 02:38 pm UTC
Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 03:33 pm UTC
Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - [info]prettyveela, 2005-08-09 04:29 pm UTC
Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - [info]waltraute, 2005-08-09 04:43 pm UTC
Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - [info]phosfate, 2005-08-09 05:58 pm UTC
Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - [info]omnicrom, 2005-08-09 06:00 pm UTC
Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:35 pm UTC
Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - [info]marks, 2005-08-09 06:55 pm UTC
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Re: Falcon the Harmonian posts - [info]altoidsaddict, 2005-08-09 08:16 pm UTC
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[info]melloniel
2005-08-09 02:30 pm UTC (link)
Why is most wank tl;dr these days? I miss the simple "U SUK" "NO U SUK" "MY BALLZ AHAHHAA PWNED".

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(no subject) - [info]squib, 2005-08-09 03:34 pm UTC

[info]ingrid
2005-08-09 03:26 pm UTC (link)
When did boring = wank?

Wank is just the opposite of that. It's glittery, covered with sparkly splooge. It makes you giggle and dance and bash your head against your keyboard in bemused joy.

It's bubbly with laughter and glorious stupidity. It's the champagne of Teh Internets, dahling.

This ... this isn't even flat club soda. Take it back. *shoos it away*

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 05:12 pm UTC
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[info]kadath
2005-08-09 04:29 pm UTC (link)
I'd be supercilious...but I write essays about how lightsaber combat works. So, to each her possibly-unhealthy obsession.

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The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay
(Anonymous)
2005-08-09 05:19 pm UTC (link)
Nice job.

First thing I gotta say is props to you, Angua, this essay is surprisingly well done and accurate. However, we do not deal in absolutes the way you state.

We do have an ideal version of love, but that does not mean we do not recognize or accept all forms of love.

It's been said that Harmonians abhor bickering or sexual interest in favor of exalting friendship into love, and that is simply not true. ANY relationship that GROWS to have the deep trust and loyalty we admire is fine with us. But we want to see the progression and the bickering must become playful bantering once one side or the other recognizes their feelings. I personally enjoy bantering couples and even bickering when it is built up and stated by one or the other that they have feelings for their opponent, or when one or the other insinuates that their opponent has feelings for them and don't want to admit it. Romantic jealousy is expected in some cases and not in others.

In literature, we expect whatever form of love the author chooses to use to be built up and SHOWN through the characters' interactions. The problem with HBP was that Rowling broke the Golden Rule of Writing, Show Don't Tell. Had she shown Harry and Ginny consistently having deep conversations wherein Harry walked away feeling better, then most of us Harmonians would have accepted the H/G ship. However, Rowling did NOT show us Harry and Ginny having these deep heart to hearts, but rather she TOLD us. She TOLD us that Harry and Ginny spoke for hours and that is simply not good enough.

JKR’s statement that Ginny is powerful and has done some impressive things makes us scratch our heads because she hasn’t SHOWN Ginny do a thing that merits such praise. We have YET to SEE this famous hex she seems so adept at. Hiding Ginny’s development from Harry is fine, but you can’t hide it from the reader. Plus, if an author has to explain a character in an interview then they didn’t do their job in the books. Show Don’t Tell, that is the author’s mantra, and agents and editors alike are very persnickety about that.

To us, Hermione was someone that little girls could look up to and strive to be like. With HBP, all her rants about fairness and equality were forgotten and she became a hypocrite. We still love Hermione, but we mourn her transformation into somebody that we don't recognize.

(more)

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Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 05:20 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]isntitironic, 2005-08-09 05:51 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]phosfate, 2005-08-09 06:00 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:03 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]phosfate, 2005-08-09 06:09 pm UTC
Falcon On Pet Care - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:22 pm UTC
Re: Falcon On Pet Care - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-08-09 06:35 pm UTC
My love for Ms. Larimer knows no bounds! - [info]snacky, 2005-08-10 04:23 am UTC
More Falcon on Pet Care - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:37 pm UTC
Re: More Falcon on Pet Care - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 09:08 pm UTC
Re: More Falcon on Pet Care - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 11:45 pm UTC
Re: More Falcon on Pet Care - [info]the_mouse, 2005-08-10 10:12 pm UTC
Re: Falcon On Pet Care - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:37 pm UTC
What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 06:47 pm UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - [info]eljuno, 2005-08-09 09:50 pm UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - sharonapple, 2005-08-09 10:11 pm UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2005-08-09 10:14 pm UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 11:18 pm UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 11:25 pm UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - [info]narcissam, 2005-08-09 11:27 pm UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 12:50 am UTC

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Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 07:58 am UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - [info]the_mouse, 2005-08-10 10:15 pm UTC
... - (Anonymous), 2005-08-11 12:23 am UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2006-02-16 03:06 am UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - [info]original_dessie, 2005-08-10 01:20 am UTC

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Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - [info]original_dessie, 2005-08-10 11:31 am UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 06:15 am UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2005-08-15 09:57 am UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - [info]the_mouse, 2005-08-18 12:38 am UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - [info]prettyveela, 2005-08-10 03:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-08-10 04:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]allison, 2005-08-10 06:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-08-10 11:44 pm UTC
Re: What About Falcon on Child Abuse? - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 04:06 am UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]rowsdower, 2005-08-09 06:16 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]mister_terrific, 2005-08-09 06:40 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]marks, 2005-08-09 06:59 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]mister_terrific, 2005-08-09 10:21 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 06:19 am UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]xero_sky, 2005-08-09 09:01 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]selene_avis, 2005-08-09 11:36 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 09:12 am UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - soula, 2005-08-09 07:56 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]iczer6, 2005-08-09 08:51 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - soula, 2005-08-10 12:02 am UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]fandom_bitch, 2005-08-10 02:24 am UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]dontgiveahoot, 2005-10-21 06:09 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]ethelbert, 2005-08-09 11:49 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]theamazingrando, 2005-08-09 07:37 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]funwithrage, 2005-08-09 08:08 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]funwithrage, 2005-08-09 08:05 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]allison, 2005-08-10 06:53 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]funwithrage, 2005-08-10 08:42 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - (Anonymous), 2005-08-09 11:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-08-10 04:45 am UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2005-08-10 10:36 am UTC
Actually, people DO agree with him. - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 08:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-08-10 11:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-11 05:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-08-11 08:27 am UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]chikane, 2005-08-10 09:18 am UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - (Anonymous), 2005-08-10 01:01 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - soula, 2005-08-10 09:53 pm UTC
Re: The Entirety of Falcon's Response to the Essay - [info]dontgiveahoot, 2005-10-21 06:25 pm UTC



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