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Dani ([info]hypno_jango) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-08-11 11:45:00


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Elitism No Jutsu!
Thanks to a mousy.

With Naruto going to be appearing on Toonami, YTV, and products in Hot Topic soon, there's bound to be plenty of wank. On the chuunin community, ino_ helpfully explains the Naruto fandom generations.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/chuunin/1382246.html

Depending on when you began watching it or reading the manga.

People who started before it was in America, as in when it was in manga format or when the anime first started = First Generation.

People who came in halfway through the anime or when the manga came to America, say.. a year or two after it came out. = Second Generation.

People who started watching it around episode say.. 100 or so, this group is many made up of two groups.

- People who are actually smart and were only late on the fandom because someone showed it to them or they found it after trying to not watch it a while and found it is actually good.

and the people we like to call .. Narutards.

- People who only watch it because it's 'popular' and because it's something everyone else is doing so they want to be in with the crowd.

That is third generation-- as you see that wave of fans .. varies. From the respectably late fan, to the idiotic - OMGITSPOPULAR fan.

Now comes.. fourth generation..*shudder*

Once again we have the late bloomers .. but we have a lot more idiots added to the fandom. The ones who will only watch it because it's dubbed in America and on Cartoon Network. These are the type of people that will most likely flood our communities and piss off a lot of the first two and maybe third generation.

It varies in how long you've been watching, and how sane you are I suppose.


It doesn't take long for people to call out the elitism. But as the mousy on wank_report sums it up: "But they were meant to be HELPFUUUUL!"



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[info]dragonkit
2005-08-11 08:25 pm UTC (link)
Why can't fans just be fans anymore? -_-

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(no subject) - [info]dragonscholar, 2005-08-11 08:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-12 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonscholar, 2005-08-13 07:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-08-11 09:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-12 01:09 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 08:34 pm UTC (link)
Taking elite snobbery to a dangerous new level.

-IM

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 08:37 pm UTC (link)
I propose another category: People who could give a fuck about Naruto and would much rather be watching stuff get blown up on the Science Channel.

Honestly. Why do these folks take anime so seriously? It's a cartoon, people, not Mississippi Burning.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-11 08:46 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-08-11 09:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iris, 2005-08-11 11:40 pm UTC

[info]dragonscholar
2005-08-11 08:37 pm UTC (link)
When Naruto hits, we can enjoy whole rich new fields of fanwars. Between this an HP fandom it'll be like Christmas for wankwatchers, fananalysts, and the like.

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(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2005-08-11 09:39 pm UTC

[info]shylu
2005-08-11 08:46 pm UTC (link)
Oh, Naruto fandom, I was surprised they weren't in here more often. *snerk*
They have a lot of wonderful fanartists, though.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-12 10:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shylu, 2005-08-13 10:34 am UTC

[info]__kat__
2005-08-11 08:55 pm UTC (link)
didn't we go through this when FMA came out?

I remember the days on fm_alchemist (all 3 of them before it got really annoying and everyone quit) where you had to label your posts.

I think it had something to do with keeping the spoilers away from the dubbies.

OH! and then came the "open letter" to the community!

Ahhhh.... memories

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(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-08-11 09:00 pm UTC

[info]coffee_mug
2005-08-11 09:16 pm UTC (link)
Tough caste-system is all I have to say about that.

Also, I have honestly never met a person who has willingly watched Naruto without *actually* liking it but just started watching because it's very popular.

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(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-08-12 02:29 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-08-12 01:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gorogoro, 2005-08-12 06:37 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-12 09:48 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pipssister, 2005-08-12 03:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xanos, 2005-08-14 11:29 am UTC

[info]made_by_kali
2005-08-11 09:20 pm UTC (link)
I can't wait until the show's actually on and everyone has a hissy fit over how much they cut out of the show to make it past censors. I've been avoiding the Naruto forums for the past few months because they're already whining about it.

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(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-08-11 09:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonkit, 2005-08-11 09:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-08-11 10:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonkit, 2005-08-11 10:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-08-11 10:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-08-11 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-08-12 07:19 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-11 10:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-12 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]made_by_kali, 2005-08-12 05:20 am UTC

[info]omnicrom
2005-08-11 09:23 pm UTC (link)
How 'bout the 4.5 generation, people who are going to watch it on CN to try and figure out WTH people are on about because it looks fairly uninteresting to them.

Seriously though this is the sort of the thing that happens whenever a popular anime comes to America.

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(no subject) - [info]moonlitsiren, 2005-08-11 10:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]terra_katta, 2005-08-11 11:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]made_by_kali, 2005-08-12 12:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]terra_katta, 2005-08-12 12:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2005-08-12 06:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rashaka, 2005-08-12 12:19 am UTC

[info]xero_sky
2005-08-11 09:24 pm UTC (link)
Holy crap... that makes me one of the First Generation elite!!! Now, what was I supposed to do...? Oh, yeah.

*is offended and pissed off by teh evil noobs*

*writes "OMG! I'm leaving!" post*

*doesn't really leave*

*creates sekrit elite community and wanks till it bleeds*

*debuts on F_W*

*"OMG! I'm leaving fandom!" post, but still doesn't leave*

Lather, rinse, and repeat.

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(no subject) - [info]dragonkit, 2005-08-11 09:27 pm UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2005-08-11 09:46 pm UTC (link)
"oh noes waaa newbies will ruin our pweshus fandom waa waa"

What's next, they're gonna petition the comapnies to give intelligence tests to everyone who wants to buy the DVDs?

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 09:47 pm UTC (link)
And we have the sweet sound of clairvoyance in this thread (http://www.livejournal.com/community/chuunin/1382246.html?thread=20358758#t20358758).

In a big fandom like this, people start to want to classify themselves as 'better' fans in order to stand out from the thousands of others. Then they usually end up on Fandom Wank eventually and we all laugh at them.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-11 11:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zarla, 2005-08-12 02:26 am UTC

[info]azhidahaki
2005-08-11 09:51 pm UTC (link)
Ahhh...the typical "anime caste" system, where n00bs are the "untouchables".

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(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-08-11 09:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-08-11 10:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-08-11 11:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]made_by_kali, 2005-08-12 12:23 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-12 06:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-08-12 06:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iris, 2005-08-11 11:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-08-11 11:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2005-08-12 06:53 am UTC

[info]phosfate
2005-08-11 10:21 pm UTC (link)
I hope the Naruto anime is more engaging than the manga.

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(no subject) - [info]somnambulicious, 2005-08-11 10:58 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-08-12 02:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-08-12 12:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-08-12 06:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-08-12 07:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lukita, 2005-08-12 12:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]emlan, 2005-08-12 04:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2005-08-12 05:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2005-08-12 06:26 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]afuna, 2005-08-12 04:58 pm UTC
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[info]ahiru
2005-08-11 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Considering the state of Naruto fandom as it is, I have my doubts that they'd even notice if a new flood of idiots and crazies come in.

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(no subject) - [info]omnicrom, 2005-08-13 12:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]provetheworst, 2005-08-13 05:37 am UTC
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[info]chikane
2005-08-11 11:01 pm UTC (link)
And what am I? I liked the slashability of the first few chapters, and eventually got bored and left for good. Zero generation fan? Can I get a badge? I want to feel elite too =(

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[info]soraphilia
2005-08-11 11:19 pm UTC (link)
I saw that post a few days ago and it had 100-something comments that I didn't even bother to read because I knew that with that meager amount, only a a couple would be "OMGSTFU you elitist!" comments among tons of people congratulating themselves for being First Generation fans.

So I just skipped over it and waited for it to end up here. Finally! I was beginning to think it'd be missed.

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(no subject) - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-08-14 04:53 pm UTC

[info]pokecheck
2005-08-12 12:16 am UTC (link)
I particularly liked the small-text disclaimer saying how the entire post was specially designed in a laboratory to be non-offensive and helpful.

Because NO ONE asked her to do it.

Considering this is Naruto, I'm surprised she's not calling the generations Shodai, Nidaime, Sandaime etc.

(Cuz dude, being Yondaime wouldn't be so bad...)

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[info]oneiropolos
2005-08-12 02:47 am UTC (link)
Incidentally, there's backlash from Ino's post here:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/chuunin/1383585.html
and here:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/chuunin/1383732.html

Neither of those posts are really wanky, but for anyone who wanted to read how the community responded elsewhere.

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[info]rachel
2005-08-12 02:57 am UTC (link)
Can't we all just be "fans"?

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YOU COMMUNIST! - (Anonymous), 2005-08-12 07:27 am UTC

[info]aerobot
2005-08-12 06:54 am UTC (link)
"All fans are equal, but some fans are MORE equal than others."

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-12 11:09 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-12 07:23 am UTC (link)
AHAHAHHAAA! Elitism! I have come in my pants from the Elitism!

People, it's a cartoon. You are ranking people based on when they started watching a cartoon.

Thanks for this. It makes me die, but it's a cathartic kind of death, and makes my life feel that much less pathetic by comparison.

-Lukadia on LJ

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(no subject) - [info]omnicrom, 2005-08-13 12:21 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-12 09:18 am UTC (link)
My semi-sarcastic "I wonder what generation I'm in" comment spurred the gal to write the post. I am so proud of myself.

donna_c_punk on LJ, if y'all care.

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[info]annabelle_lee
2005-08-12 09:38 am UTC (link)
[facepalms] Goddamnit, chuunin. This is why the Naruto fandom can't have good things. Now clean up the rug! Bad fans! Bad!

(and that's why I would rather stay at the Naruto yaoi communities then at gen communities like chuunin. Less asshats and more illiterates!)

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(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-08-12 11:59 am UTC
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[info]monkeywrench
2005-08-12 12:01 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe these people are being elitist over Naruto. You are Naruto fandom. You willingly watch/read Naruto, which is, like, the least deep/thought-provoking/indie/cool thing ever. By doing so you lose any right to be snobby and pretentious. And every fan of Naruto is a Narutard, period. *is a First-Generation Narutard (y hallo thar low-quality Toriyama World scans!) and damn ashamed of it. Okay, not ashamed, but I would never put fandom n00bs down because WE'RE ALL NARUTARDS DAMMIT*

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(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-08-12 12:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]monkeywrench, 2005-08-13 06:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]omnicrom, 2005-08-13 12:24 am UTC
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