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Dragonfangirl ([info]dragonfangirl) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-08-12 16:53:00


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Current mood:*thud*

A coda to the FMA wank
A followup to the previous wank: same players, new game.

The comm founder, [info]neneno, starts looking for new mods to replace [info]naruto and [info]mother. She gives potential new mods a deadline to submit their resumes and be considered for moderator status. People are enthusiastic and optomistic at first, until someone brings up doubts regarding one of the nominations, [info]samaside, about her possible past merchandise connection</a> with Hot Topic.

Things quickly begin to fall apart as posters react with outrage to what is perceived as an attack. Things get rather bitter rather fast. Most people don't see the Hot Topic issue as a problem, but a few other people weigh in agreements to the objection, pointing out other problems with samaside, such as highly controversial posts she's made in the past, and her record of deleting comments to her posts that disagree with her. More outrage, on both sides. [info]neneno gives samaside her full support, and indeed goes all the way and gives her mod status over the deadline and resume process. The wank continues, and spills over into personal journals. (There are more, but they're either under 18, or locked.)

[edit] neneno announces that samaside's promotion to maintainer status is only temporary, because samaside wanted to delete some comments. Whose comments isn't clear, since samaside is perfectly capable of deleting her own comments without being a moderator.

[edit2]: [info]herongale posts an open letter to the comm founder concerning samaside's appointment.




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[info]narcissam
2005-08-13 03:39 am UTC (link)
Your friend is taking it up the ass from a huge corporation and you can't even see it. She's being used to virally market Hot Topic and you not only don't care, you're defending her right to be used like that.

Right. Backing away slowly.

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(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2005-08-13 06:24 am UTC

[info]rogue
2005-08-13 03:43 am UTC (link)
This is why I just make my friends co-mods of any communities I run right off the bat and don't bother with applications. If anyone calls a mod biased - well, yeah, we're all in the same super secret mod cabal. Nyahaha.

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2005-08-13 03:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-08-13 03:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2005-08-13 04:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-08-13 04:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yeats, 2005-08-15 08:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-08-15 11:11 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-13 03:44 am UTC (link)
Internet sure is serious business.

/theFirebottle (http://thefirebottle.livejournal.com/) @ LJ

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[info]oneiropolos
2005-08-13 03:45 am UTC (link)
Wow. Anax! The one Dragonfangirl corrected me on being the star of the Roy's Eye Color wank. Talk about amusing... Hasn't Herongale been involved in wanks elsewhere too? For some reason that name is ringing a bell and not in a nice way.
Honestly, this whole thing boggles my mind, especially for that community. There's dozen of posts about, "Look what I found today!" So what if Samaside talks to someone who works at Hot Topic and gets them to make us stuff that we *gasp* actually want? I didn't know Samaside had gotten a free hoodie out of it, which is the only bit that seems even SLIGHTLY questionable, but anyone would have accepted it. Honestly, I'm losing more and more faith in that community. (Yes. Just now. I was in denial before.)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 03:49 am UTC
*sporfle* - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2005-08-13 03:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oneiropolos, 2005-08-13 03:55 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 04:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oneiropolos, 2005-08-13 04:10 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 04:15 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 03:58 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 10:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 03:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-08-13 04:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oneiropolos, 2005-08-13 04:04 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 10:38 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-13 03:59 am UTC (link)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/herongale/122525.html#cutid1

Herongale weighs in, calling fandom_wankers "dumb cunts", among other things. Oh no, wait. She doesn't mention the name. It must be some other wank community on JournalFen. Silly me.

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(no subject) - [info]somnambulicious, 2005-08-13 04:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-08-13 04:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2005-08-13 07:00 pm UTC

[info]sashenka
2005-08-13 04:01 am UTC (link)
Um... OH NOES!!! You have some small connection to a store I don't like!!

Someone call them the Waaaahhhmbulance. I don't even understand what one thing has to do with another. You know, when Hot Topic carries Anime stuff, they're making it more popular and readily available to people who don't like being ass-raped for import crap. If you don't like big corporations, don't shop there, but stop telling other people where to shop and work. They know they're supporting a big corporation and they don't care... oh, no... I'm a poor college student and I buy my food at Wal-Mart, are you going to decide I can't ever be a mod somewhere to? (Well, I shouldn't be a mod, but that's because I'm a tad insensitive towards other's feelings).

This seems like the same thing as not letting someone be a mod because they're a Republican. I once ran a group and when I decided to leave it, I just emailed one of the big posters who seems moderately intelligent and told her she could have the ownership if she wanted. Sometimes it's best to just choose mods behind closed doors... or at least not have them put their resumes up for the group... because the group will be biased. That was just asking for wank.

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(no subject) - [info]sashenka, 2005-08-13 05:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shylu, 2005-08-13 07:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sashenka, 2005-08-13 08:00 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 01:37 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-13 04:22 am UTC (link)
Good grief, not again!

Are they really trying to out do the HP fandom in wanking power? Are they?

Am I forever forced to wear a tshirt that says "Get out of the FMA fandom, you are make me look stupid"?

...god, I miss the good old days...

E.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 10:03 pm UTC

[info]sabinelagrande
2005-08-13 05:22 am UTC (link)
Can FMA fans stop being lame, and go back to writing porn?

It worked for Gankutsuou.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 10:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-08-15 03:58 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-13 05:45 am UTC (link)
Considering, the support she's recieved, worrying that being a moderator will give her greater influence seems moot to me, since Samaside, already has the influence... She's already known, most of the people at the board like her, so it really probably won't make a difference if she's a mod or not.

I can see Heron's point, and I do think that the company is _very_ happy to have samaside, speaking about them. But honestly I don't think it makes a difference if she's a mod or not to them.


But samaside, has not always given complete support, she's made complaints on what they do.

What samaside, has done is she's given people the chance to ask what they want. How often do people bitch, that such and such a company completely stuff up? She's reminded people that they have control on the situation. That their voices can be heard.

Honestly in anime fandom, it can be really annoying when everyone bitches that, oh theirs nothing I like. Personally I think that what she does helps prevent wank.

I don't understand why a moderator should change their general posting habits. Since its how they behaved before hand that had them nominated for the job?

~Qem_chibati @ lj

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-13 05:45 am UTC (link)
Gah. This must be the new record or something. Two wanks straight. --;

I'm still waiting for someone to yell, 'PUNK'D' and tell me this post is part of a soap opera for the old ladies.

-zodiacstargazer (LJ)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 06:46 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 06:55 am UTC

[info]stickmarionette
2005-08-13 06:00 am UTC (link)
Staying out of the Hot Topic debate, since I don't know enough about it to comment, but samaside's previous behaviour is a little bit concerning.

Okay, more than a little. But it's not like anyone other than the comm owner can do anything about it. I could say that other people on that list of nominees are more experienced, less prone to wanky behaviour and might do a better job, and it wouldn't make a bit of difference. (and besides, I am biased - several of those people are on my friendslist.)

And I guess the real point of my comment is 'URGH can we stop wanking for one day and go back to doing what a fandom usually does? Please?'

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[info]prettyveela
2005-08-13 06:49 am UTC (link)
As a fma n00b(dances around) I don't give a damn about the hot topic issue, I give a damn about the deleting comment issue. If samaside has a history of deleting comments of people simply because they disagree with her, then hell yeah I have a problem with her being a mod. The Hot Topic issue is a nonissue, IMO.


With that said, I really like neneno so far, most mods won't come in their own community to say "Yeah I fucked up." Gotta respect that.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 07:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-08-13 07:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-08-13 07:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-08-13 07:34 am UTC

[info]annabelle_lee
2005-08-13 07:36 am UTC (link)
Eeeeh, there are points there, but they're so hidden and spooge encrusted that they've lost their meaning. Tl;dr much?

However, any asshole who uses the mod like that to delete someone else's comments is a grade-A wanker as well. I wouldn't want her within fifty feet of my fandoms.

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[info]oneiropolos
2005-08-13 07:49 am UTC (link)
Anax: And yet another attack dog weighs in. Of course you agree. Get an original opinion before you hit "reply to this" next time, please.
From this thread: http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/2806737.html?thread=38214609#t38214609

-_-
Pot. Meet Kettle. Kettle, Pot. Good grief, Anax and Created Memory are all over the comments in Herongale's post and their sole purpose seems to be just to insult anyone who disagrees with Herongale. I'm all for being there for your friend, but gyeh...

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 08:05 am UTC

[info]zannechaos
2005-08-13 08:04 am UTC (link)
......... oh for the lov'a... -_-

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[info]nights_mistress
2005-08-13 09:35 am UTC (link)
Wow. Love the manga, think the anime's pretty decent, but why is the fandom SO DAMN BATSHIT? It's a LJ community. It's not the official LJ community, sponsored by anyone, it's an unofficial fanclub.

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(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-13 01:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2005-08-13 01:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-13 02:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2005-08-13 02:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-13 02:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2005-08-13 02:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-13 03:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2005-08-14 05:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-08-14 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2005-08-14 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-14 06:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dark_puck, 2005-08-13 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-14 01:57 am UTC

[info]rashaka
2005-08-13 10:21 am UTC (link)
I think this whole thing could have been avoided if the founding mod had just picked who she liked best, offered modship to them in a private email, and then announced the new person to the community. Fuck the democratic process-- it's LJ, it's not the government. She should pick someone she likes and trusts, and say "hey, here's your new mod." That's what I'll do if I ever don't want to mod my community anymore.

In Herongale's post she's even said that she felt obligated to bring up her complaint since members were asked. If Samaside was just announced out of the blue as the new mod, it might not even have come up.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-13 10:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rashaka, 2005-08-13 10:41 am UTC

[info]rashaka
2005-08-13 10:39 am UTC (link)
You should link to this as well: the newest nominee for moderator!

http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/2809329.html#cutid1

...because it cracks me up.

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(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2005-08-13 01:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zannechaos, 2005-08-14 06:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rashaka, 2005-08-14 09:14 am UTC

[info]shylu
2005-08-13 05:42 pm UTC (link)
Aand we have survivor banners!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/Ragweed/VictimModWank.png
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/Ragweed/Isurvived.png
Please credit ragweedtd if you use it.

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(no subject) - [info]shylu, 2005-08-13 05:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]oneiropolos, 2005-08-13 06:12 pm UTC

[info]whimsy_chan
2005-08-13 11:05 pm UTC (link)
Wow. I missed a whole lot of that, except for [info]herongale's post. And I still can't really see what the big deal is. There's going to be more than one mod, so if someone is abusing their mod privileges, I'd think one of the other mods would call them on it.

And really. Can anyone be worse than [info]naruto and [info]mother?

Anyway, look at my really cool icon that was inspired by all this wank! I always wanted a "My fandom...." icon. XD

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[info]freya
2005-08-14 12:19 am UTC (link)
Jesus Christ, why can't they just shut up?

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[info]oneiropolos
2005-08-14 12:48 am UTC (link)
Is this our first official leaving post? Or did I miss others?
Lady Metaka: http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/2813747.html
and for more, Apparently CreatedMemory hated the leaving post so much that they went over to Lady Metaka's journal and wanked here:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladymetaka/354274.html?nc=13
Saved for Posterity:
CreatedMemory- No one wants to hear about your pitiful story of leaving fm_alchemist so stop trying to stir up more things. Kthxbia!

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(no subject) - [info]whimsy_chan, 2005-08-14 12:53 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-14 06:49 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-14 10:20 am UTC

[info]rachel
2005-08-14 02:46 am UTC (link)
There's still wanking all over the community.

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(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-14 03:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oneiropolos, 2005-08-14 05:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-14 06:46 am UTC

[info]devils_devotion
2005-08-14 03:26 am UTC (link)
...omgwtfbbqshitbyobasap...*zepplin'd!*

...You know, for old times' sake.

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(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-08-14 06:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]devils_devotion, 2005-08-14 04:41 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-14 07:38 am UTC (link)
It just (http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/2813747.html) won't (http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/2813665.html) STOP. (http://www.livejournal.com/community/fm_alchemist/2816133.html?#cutid1)

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