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Irony ([info]isntitironic) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-08-15 08:15:00


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Current mood:Fan-Tabulous
Entry tags:community: deleterius, entitlement, mod wank, suck it up and deal

[info]lurgy thinks the new layout at [info]deleterius sucks, and requests that it be changed. The mod, [info]tviokh, refuses to do so. Both wank.

As regular posters will know, Tviokh only recently installed the current template for this site. Sadly, the text was microscopic and unreadable, a fact aggravated by the low contrast between page elements. So, missing my daily fix, I went along to Tviokh’s LJ to make the following request.


Lurgy:

Um... please can we have Deleterius back the way it was? I can hardly read a thing on screen with the new style. And there doesn't seem to be any way to add comments...?



To which I was stunned to receive this:


Tviokh:
Can't be arsed.

I have no issues navigating, and can read it just peachy with my glasses on.
Without my glasses, I don't read much of anything.



Somewhat stung, I returned with:


Lurgy:

So... not so much a canon Nazi as a Nazi, period?



And was immensely amused to find this in my inbox the next day:

Tviokh:

Nobody forces you to read and/or be a member there.

If you don't like it, watch me sit here and not care.



So I made the irresistible observation:


Lurgy:

ROTFL You sound just like a Suethor sock puppet!



And when I got back from the weekend, I found TWO lovely replies. Sadly I was unable to respond because, in line with the maturity level exhibited thus far, milady had excluded me from making posts in her journal:


Tviokh: (1)

Good for me.
My community and out of nearly 2000 people less than 25 have complained.

Majority wins.
Don't like it? *waves*
One less Deleterius member isn't going to make me cry.
In fact, I think a bunch of people tried that "You won't cater to my every whim so I'm leaving!" tantrum over an icon.

Most of them have since reapplied for membership, and the community did not (as they swore it would) lose all of its members and turn into a wasteland.

Tviokh: (2)

Mm, and in case you've been to busy trying to be snarky to actually go and look, I did raise the font size a bit and switched comment views back to the old style.

There's nothing wrong with the colors; not sure what messed up sort of monitor you have, but I've looked at it in IE, Firefox, Mozilla, Safari, and Netscape on Win2k, Windows 2003 Server, Redhat, SuSE, OSX, and Win98 and have no need to highlight to see anything.

Furthermore, finding comment links is as difficult as finding the little linkie that says "SPORK"; if you can't find that, you need to just...go away before my head explodes.

Of course, it's much more fun to come over here and irritate me in my personal LJ with failed attempts at wit, isn't it?



Quite surprised, and somewhat impressed to discover I can still post in Deleterius. However, I imagine that’s about to change any day now, so let me have my final say:


Reply to (1)
Well yes, but out of nearly 2000 members, only about 50 ever post. So if less than 25 complained (so that would be 24, would it?), that could actually amount to around 40% of your active membership.

I've been fascinated by your attitude throughout. I made a perfectly polite request, and you have been as objectionably bitchy as possible in return. Why? The argument that "I like it so I don't care who doesn't" belongs to a ten-year old, not, as I assume, a woman somewhere in her thirties. And it is so ironic that you who founded this community should resort to such an argument when it's one of the things suethors say which makes us laugh most.

And why don't you care about the opinion of one of your members? It said on your page that this was a paid-for community, so you'd prefer people to join rather than simply breeze through as an anonymous poster... that would seems the opposite of this "I've got nearly 2000 members so fuck you" argument your giving me here.

As for your pathological rudeness... the only comment which really comes to mind is, "beware lest you become the thing you hate".

Reply to (2)
Actually I’ve been busy with my life. Deleterius is my aid to sanity when I’m doing something boring at work. So no, I didn’t notice you’d changed the font size until today. What inspired that sudden U-turn? Did the other 26 people who actually use your site complain as well? And yes, now it’s rendered in a font size which is actually visible, the “spork” link is fine.

I’ve got 1,600+ members on the Snape list I moderate, and while I’ve booted loads of them off (with, I confess, the same logic of “there’s plenty left” ;> ) I’ve never needed – or wanted, for that matter – to be gratuitously nasty to any of them. Maybe you should rethink your hatred of James and Sirius. The elitist who shits on someone, without any provocation, just because she can, has far more in common with the mindless bully than she does with the quiet loner forced by circumstance and naivety down a path he later comes to regret.



Wish I'd had time to do an actual spork report myself at some point, but it's finding the time. But I have immensely enjoyed this community, so best wishes to everyone - even Tviokh ;>

So long, and thanks for all the sporks.




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[info]marlo
2005-08-15 05:50 pm UTC (link)
Heh. Least surprising wank EVAR. [info]tviokh makes layout, someone complains (and is wanky about it, to boot!). [info]tviokh is her usual delightfully wanky self. We need to her make her her very own pointed WANKER hat, because she should be wearing it 24/7.

::uses new icon. yay!::

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[info]dunc
2005-08-15 05:53 pm UTC (link)
Props to Sarafinapekkala for suggesting ?style=mine. That thing is a godsend. As a bit of style Nazi myself, I've used it on various occasions.

Deleterius looks fine to me, though. Not my favorite template, but readable enough. It's not like Tviokh stuck everything to a 2-inch iFrame topped by a 5 inch JPEG in blinding colors, which is what first comes to mind when I think of bad LJ design.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-08-15 05:57 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-08-16 07:31 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]jyuu, 2005-08-17 12:45 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-20 05:46 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 05:55 pm UTC (link)
I like the parts where Lurgy thinks she's said something witty and scathing.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-15 07:03 pm UTC
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Word - [info]agony, 2005-08-16 01:28 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]angstymcgoth, 2005-08-15 11:14 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tviokh, 2005-08-16 08:15 pm UTC

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(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-08-15 08:21 pm UTC
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[info]theamazingrando
2005-08-15 06:09 pm UTC (link)
Is it me, or is there a strange version of Snacky's law invoked towards the end?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-15 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]theamazingrando, 2005-08-15 06:27 pm UTC

[info]hangingfire
2005-08-15 06:13 pm UTC (link)
Is there some kind of [info]jurisimprudence law that covers the "OMG I'M LEAVING" post in which the OP continues to follow up with comments and rebuttals?

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(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2005-08-15 09:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hangingfire, 2005-08-15 09:48 pm UTC

[info]cat_mcdougall
2005-08-15 06:17 pm UTC (link)
I was thinking of posting this, and came over to double check someone didn't beat me to it.

I was really laughing. Am I the only one who uses filters on her friends pages and hence don't go to the community to read?

I just read my f-lists. Those darned filters!

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-15 11:20 pm UTC

[info]wanktastic
2005-08-15 06:33 pm UTC (link)
My favorite part is where [info]lurgy confused sockpuppets with asslicking minions. Or maybe she really does think everyone defending [info]tviokh is ACTUALLY [info]tviokh?

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(no subject) - [info]speshulduck, 2005-08-15 07:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]slackerbitch, 2005-08-17 02:36 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tviokh, 2005-08-16 12:04 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rimrunner, 2005-08-16 06:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tviokh, 2005-08-16 02:48 pm UTC

[info]wankismyfandom
2005-08-15 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Wow, Lurgy, that's an awfully big sense of entitlement you're lugging around there.

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[info]captainecchi
2005-08-15 06:48 pm UTC (link)
I can never remember if we're supposed to love or hate [info]tviokh here at F_W. I'm so confused!

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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2005-08-15 07:24 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2005-08-16 01:03 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-16 04:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-17 04:53 am UTC

[info]jetamors
2005-08-15 07:04 pm UTC (link)
*sighs* Not that I'm denying that the girl is all kinds of wanky, but couldn't [info]tviokh give a civil answer to someone just once? It seems like any time anyone advances the mildest, politest little complaint, she acts as if it were the most unreasonable thing in the world. (See: swastika wank)

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(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2005-08-15 07:11 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]txvoodoo, 2005-08-16 08:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-08-16 01:22 am UTC
Yep - (Anonymous), 2005-08-16 03:36 am UTC
Re: Yep - [info]rustybitch, 2005-08-16 10:15 am UTC
Re: Yep - [info]platedlizard, 2005-08-16 11:35 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-17 04:01 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-17 05:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-08-15 08:24 pm UTC
In the immortal words of Coach Z... - [info]nebbieq, 2005-08-16 09:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]omega, 2005-08-17 02:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]slackerbitch, 2005-08-17 03:02 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 07:15 pm UTC (link)
So... not so much a canon Nazi as a Nazi, period?

Huh?

ROTFL You sound just like a Suethor sock puppet!

Bwah?

These insults make no sense. Why don't you just call her an Eskimo and a ventriloquist, while you're at it?

--jim_smith

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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2005-08-15 07:25 pm UTC
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Icon fear! - [info]xero_sky, 2005-08-15 09:08 pm UTC
Re: Icon fear! - [info]theamazingrando, 2005-08-15 09:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-16 03:48 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-16 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]somnambulicious, 2005-08-16 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shakeandbake, 2005-08-16 02:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nebbieq, 2005-08-16 09:18 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-20 05:52 am UTC
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[info]emlan
2005-08-15 07:55 pm UTC (link)
I'd say something but I'm just so happy it's not black w/white text anymore, finally I can browse without losing eyesight ♥

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[info]xero_sky
2005-08-15 09:05 pm UTC (link)
If you set up a community [...] and if that community is all about making fun of other people's pretentions, you should be above the same kind of thing yourself.

Christ, where would the fun in that be?

This is hilarious!

That word doesn't meant what she thinks it means.

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(no subject) - [info]xero_sky, 2005-08-15 09:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - mizuki, 2005-08-16 07:11 am UTC

[info]kicklecubicle
2005-08-15 09:29 pm UTC (link)
I think this whole thing is all bananas, but man...even I wanted to hurt something when Lurgy pulled out the "ROTFL". Good DOG. "Hur hur, lookit me! I'm FUNNY! LOLZ! :p"

*SMACK FU*

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 09:30 pm UTC (link)
I love how lurgy says s/h/it is laughing at all the people posting. In my experience, that defense never works.
I, too, had a bit of trouble reading the font when it was first changed, but I didn't complain. It no longer takes forever to load.
Psst, Bush related possible wank at GAFF Godawful News forum.

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dodyskin
2005-08-15 10:22 pm UTC (link)
Snippy, yes. But, god, I can relate. What is the deal with people following you home (so to speak) with their complaints? The email address is right there, dude. Would you go round to your butcher's house to complain about his chicken? Or something that is a better and less bizarre analogy?

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(no subject) - [info]stinkwrinkle, 2005-08-15 10:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]original_dessie, 2005-08-16 12:55 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Hard to say which layout was harder to read.

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[info]teruhiko
2005-08-15 11:37 pm UTC (link)
I know Lurgy or whatever was annoying, but god. Am I the only one who's sick of people like [info]tviokh who take every tiny opportunity to assert their HOOJ BITCHness?

I'm pretty sure I complained about this before, but whatever. I dislike people who are all "I'm such a bitch" lolz and use it as an excuse to be needlessly rude to people. If they don't want to deal with my crap as they like to put it, they shouldn't expect me to deal with theirs.

Mmmm, new appropriate icon...

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(no subject) - [info]ruby_tuesday, 2005-08-16 12:38 am UTC
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(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2005-08-16 07:37 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-16 12:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]teruhiko, 2005-08-16 12:43 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]teruhiko, 2005-08-16 01:28 am UTC
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[info]tviokh
2005-08-16 12:03 am UTC (link)
Oh, now let's be fair, I did up the font and set the comments back to the old style once I was back from vacation. ;)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-18 01:15 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-25 10:25 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 12:36 am UTC (link)
Meh. Anyone silly enough to wank to tviokh deserves what they get. Sure, I don't think I would have reacted so harshly, but come on... look at the Deleterius community info! ;)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-16 01:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-08-16 08:28 am UTC

thebitingfaery
2005-08-16 01:33 am UTC (link)
Frankly, I think you were a hell of a lot wankier than [info]tviokh. Very few people saw a problem with it even before she tweaked it again. Going to her personal journal to complain is just arseish. If you had to say something, why not mention it in a comment in the community itself? I think she had a perfect right to be annoyed.

*shrug*

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(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-08-16 08:49 pm UTC

thebitingfaery
2005-08-16 01:35 am UTC (link)
Erm... not you, Lurgy. Yes.

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(no subject) - [info]marlo, 2005-08-16 08:49 pm UTC

[info]princessdot
2005-08-16 02:29 am UTC (link)
~loves ctrl+mouse scrolly and finds she has to use it for most places anyway~

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[info]the_wanlorn
2005-08-16 02:31 am UTC (link)
Well yes, but out of nearly 2000 members, only about 50 ever post.

Wait, so just because I don't post and hardly ever comment, I'm not allowed to have an opinion? It's not as though I'm not reading the posts that are made, ignoring that it's on my flist so style changes don't bother me. Yet, I don't exist or matter?

Shenanigans!

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Super Troopers! - [info]ninja_stripper, 2005-08-16 07:35 am UTC



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