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Maria ([info]ladyofviolets) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-08-23 16:26:00


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Current mood:Navel-Gazing
Current music:Mitsuko Horie (Hilda) - Athena no komori-uta
Entry tags:anime/manga, homophobia, plagiarism, yaoi

Bi-sexual and Bi-lingual Pegasus Wank-tasy here!
Ah, old school anime wank is precious. Specially if it's Saint Seiya wank. I haven' seen StS wank THIS good since a certain online shop specialized in StS stuff got bitched at for supposedly staling merchandising, many years ago...

Get your Babelfish ready and COME WITH MEEEEEEE!

Enter [info]holymegasaint, member of the [info]saintseiya community in LJ. She posts spoilers without lj-cuts, posts only in Spanish without translating, and is heterosexist in the "ZOMG I LOVE HET AND YAOI/YURI ARE WRONG! way.

So... Non-wanky? Wait!

She "writes" an essay in Spanish about a certain Virgo Shaka, Gold Saint and Fan Bait Extraordinary. One of the StS comm members, however, soon notices that it's just the translation of another essay, which is originally in English..

People call her thief. She delets the comments. The author of the original essay waltzes in...


Original comments are in Spanish, but here you have translations by Yours Only.

Sweetprince: Do you like what I write?

HolyMegaSaint (HMS):
Yes, I do!
I'm sorry if I said it was "mine", but telling truths I said that for myself JL only to see the reactions of the people in here.

Well, at least I can translate and that's good, since my stepdad and my stepbrother (I'm adopted) always say I'm a brute and a good-for-nothing coz I'm watching Jap cartoon or from elsewhere.
Or that I'm so not like the other girls who dress well, have perfect bodies, have boyfriends (or many) and go out to get plastered.
ell, I'm going ot, in fact that I saw that article in another page and not the one that other fangirl showed me, since when I saw it again it didn't ahve the bibliography.
Well, I liked the essay and that's why I translated it, and I also added some other stuff on my own, since that's my sign and, after Hades, shaka is my second favorite.
Shame that Shaka's given a bad fame as a fag! >:-(
As I said, I saw that around...2 years ago in a page, but dunno if it's the same one. Finally, i'm sorry, I put it in my LJ only to get attention from some people, if you want go and take the stuff I added as extra.



Yes, i'm keeping the bad grammar and the lack of capitals.

HMS:
i didn't delete so many evidences, because I'm also giving apologies to the Sweetprince girls, though i dunno if she also speaks english,.

yes some of the first thingies you saw in my diary are, but ALL that I write/translate is, and yes, I translate some stuff on sobre los plagios, even when it seems that "everything i do" is plagiarism, telling truths is not, and my friend checked up the grammar.
but it's okay, i won't do it again.
but I did it all out of despair.
about my lack of grammar and all, okay i'm no good.
but only because you have good grammar and writing skills all "perfect", it doesn't mean you can write "perfect" ss or megaman yaoi shit.
and even if it's not plagiarism what you write about them, evne then it's not original since ss and megaman does NOT belong to you.
original would be to have you wriing homosexual tales about characters invented by you, and NOT taken from anime or videogames coz they're pretty, are best friens or enemies that hate each other.

She says it's the last time. But it is NOT. There's a sort-of Spanish test about Saint instincts... which is a silly tweaking from a Spanish test about dogs.

And Spanish fans are now calling on her.

Of course, she banswhoever dares to criticize her, then insults him/her/it. (Spanish link, I'm just too tired to translate.

For the love of Athena, Odin, Poseidon, Lucifer, Eris, Ares and/or Hades, PLEASE someone stop this bitch. She's 25 and has the mentality of a rude, bitchy, and spiteful little girl.

Edit n°1:
Bookworm-e reminded me of these little jewels. Thank you!

First: A Poem about Myself. Only that I wasn't the one who wrote it - I actually used Enigma lyrics and thought no one would notice. And I also throw some more shit at yaoi when 'provoked'.

Second: What a pretty song by Eddie Reader. Of course i'll translate it and try to make it pass as mine! Silly me!

ZOMG the st00pid burns.

----

Edit n° 2:

[info]darknightrain translates her own Words of Wisdom!


For further enjoyment of the wank.

From http://www.livejournal.com/users/holymegasaint/4895.html?thread=9759#t9759 with crappy grammar and everything. *having fun*


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ok, i did the same with this.
yes it's very wrong what i do, but it's also very bad to take characters from an anime or game that are NOT gays and put them in homosexual stories no matter how "perfect" is your spelling or grammar.

besides that they have NO sense, unlike the official gays stories (like clamp, anne rice, night walker,etc) because they have intersting things or an intersting story behind the homosexuality.
but that DOES NOT happen with "ss" or "megaman" yaoi fics, besides they don't go with the original story itself at all.

ok i won't do those plagiarisms again, but i wish i could say the same about the yaoi fandom and that only yaoi fan fics of stories that ARE like that would be written or that are original of the same fanatics.

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amedarknight: Re: ok, this is plagiarism too

yes it's very wrong what i do, but it's also very bad to take characters from an anime or game that are NOT gays and put them in homosexual stories no matter how "perfect" is your spelling or grammar.

Girl, people can write whatever they want as long as the idea is of their own intellectual property. What you are doing is STEALING and that's got no justification whatsoever.

besides that they have NO sense, unlike the official gays stories (like clamp, anne rice, night walker,etc) because they have intersting things or an intersting story behind the homosexuality.

How do you know? How much yaoi or yuri fanfiction have you read to be able to judge? Because from what you say, the only 'phobic' here is you and with such a tiny criteria, I highly doubt you're in any position to give your opinion.

I wish you'd stop deleting the comments and didn't have banned me, because that only confirms your immaturity, but anyway, don't worry, we kept the comments saved and the band doesn't stop us from commenting here.

-darknightrain



And one more, from http://www.livejournal.com/users/holymegasaint/2010.html?thread=6874#t6874

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

darknightrain:

Instead of spending so much time criticizing "the fanes" you should do something about yourself and stop plagiarizing stuff already.

At least us, "the fanes" who write YAOI and YURI and not "natural relationships" know how to write properly and don't go around stealing other people's things.


Edit n° 3:

BAH-LEETED COMMENTS HERE! In both Spanish *and* English. Image-heavy. Thanks to [info]bookworm_e and [info]inupr0n for everything!

FIRST BATCH. Essay on Shaka comments

and

SECOND BATCH. How to Train you Saint

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Edit n° 4: MORE FORMERLY DELETED COMMENTS COME BAAAAAACK FROM THE DEEEEED! N°1 and 2 in Spanish and n°3 in English.

ALL the posterior bitching in the Train your Saint post. Complete with Mary Sue jokes and jokes about fangirlism.

ALL the posterior bitching in the Shaka essaypost

This happened when she posted the translation of the Train your Saint shit at the Saint Seiya comm.




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[info]cairea
2005-08-23 11:42 pm UTC (link)
... my Spanish is nowhere near good enough to actually read the wank with any comprehension, but I think I love seeing actions typed out in Spanish.

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(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2005-08-24 12:02 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-23 11:47 pm UTC (link)
Oh dear. And I hoped it all being in Spanish will spare poor old fandom from getting popular here.

'tis just a tip of the iceberg, though. There are much uglier things hidden underwater.

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-23 11:54 pm UTC (link)
Don't forget the song (http://www.livejournal.com/community/saintseiya/62185.html) which is nothing more than a translation from Nobody lives without love by Eddie Reader and her poem about herself (http://www.livejournal.com/users/holymegasaint/4895.html) that is a translation of Return to my Innocence by Enigma.

Damn, and I wanted my comments to appear, the woman deleted them sadly.

-Bookworm_e

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(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2005-08-23 11:56 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-08-23 11:56 pm UTC (link)
ZOMG MOMMY LOOK I'M ON F_W!!11one

But gargh. Yes. Make the pain plz. Now I'm almost tempted to go flood her journal with pr0n using a sockpuppet.


-darknightrain

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redwarrior
2005-08-23 11:59 pm UTC (link)
HOFUCK.

Pretentious, immature little git, isn't she?

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(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2005-08-24 12:17 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-08-24 01:34 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 12:21 am UTC (link)
Pseudo translation of what she said to justify her 'stealing' (punctuation and grammar hers): "
(...)I'm sorry if I said 'it's mine', but truth is I said that only to see the reaction of the members of this community.
Anyway, at least I know how to translate and that's good, since my stepfather and my step brother (I'm adopted) always tell me I'm a brute good for nothing because I see anime or other cartoons or because I'm not like the rest of the girls, who dress nicely, have perfect bodies, a boyfriend (or boyfriends) and go to parties only to get drunk...


Well, at least it's a nice variation of 'my dog has a terminal illness', although I can't see how being 'mistreated' excuses you from stealing someone else's essay and say it's yours.

Expeliarbum

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(no subject) - [info]angstymcgoth, 2005-08-24 03:54 am UTC

[info]canisetlupus
2005-08-24 12:32 am UTC (link)
Oh.My.God. I had hoped Megasaint had grown up or lost her Internet connection and NOW she's on LJ. There's no justice in the world.

Many years ago she started this cute crusade on every Saint Seiya Spanish site, praising het fics even if they were OOC abominations (especially when they included Mary-Sues and were ohsoromantic) and trashing every yaoi fanfic no matter how IC, well-plotted or believable were. She's homophobic, rabid, stupid and, worst of all, she never tires. And she can't spell, no matter the language she uses.

Many of the then BNFs in the Spanish fandom tried to reason with her. To show her that yaoi was, well, fanfiction, and if the old Greek traditions were kept in Athena's Sanctuary, maybe many of the Saint were bisexual at the least. When that didn't work, they proceded to laugh at her. I can't remember the number of flamewars she caused in the old Yahoogroups mailing lists and even in guestbooks sometimes.

Heh. I remember when she accused me of being "an otaku of yaoi" (her words, not mine) only because I recommended a very famous StS-yaoi fic. Forget the fact that my own fanfics were, you know... HET. With kisses and all of that.

Oh well. At least I have somewhere to laugh at her. I need that right now.

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 12:44 am UTC (link)
You know, for the non-Spanish speaking among us, this wank is pretty much unreadable if you can't be bothered to translate a wank you decide to post.

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[info]sarajayechan
2005-08-24 12:46 am UTC (link)
I really, really wish I understood Spanish better. T_T

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[darknightrain] Translations are coming!
(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 01:09 am UTC (link)
For further enjoyment of the wank.

From http://www.livejournal.com/users/holymegasaint/4895.html?thread=9759#t9759 with crappy grammar and everything. *having fun*




ok, i did the same with this.
yes it's very wrong what i do, but it's also very bad to take characters from an anime or game that are NOT gays and put them in homosexual stories no matter how "perfect" is your spelling or grammar.

besides that they have NO sense, unlike the official gays stories (like clamp, anne rice, night walker,etc) because they have intersting things or an intersting story behind the homosexuality.
but that DOES NOT happen with "ss" or "megaman" yaoi fics, besides they don't go with the original story itself at all.

ok i won't do those plagiarisms again, but i wish i could say the same about the yaoi fandom and that only yaoi fan fics of stories that ARE like that would be written or that are original of the same fanatics.

---------

amedarknight: Re: ok, this is plagiarism too

yes it's very wrong what i do, but it's also very bad to take characters from an anime or game that are NOT gays and put them in homosexual stories no matter how "perfect" is your spelling or grammar.

Girl, people can write whatever they want as long as the idea is of their own intellectual property. What you are doing is STEALING and that's got no justification whatsoever.

besides that they have NO sense, unlike the official gays stories (like clamp, anne rice, night walker,etc) because they have intersting things or an intersting story behind the homosexuality.

How do you know? How much yaoi or yuri fanfiction have you read to be able to judge? Because from what you say, the only 'phobic' here is you and with such a tiny criteria, I highly doubt you're in any position to give your opinion.

I wish you'd stop deleting the comments and didn't have banned me, because that only confirms your immaturity, but anyway, don't worry, we kept the comments saved and the band doesn't stop us from commenting here.

-darknightrain

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Re: [darknightrain] Translations are coming! - (Anonymous), 2005-08-24 01:15 am UTC
Re: [darknightrain] Translations are coming! - [info]sarajayechan, 2005-08-24 02:26 am UTC
Re: [darknightrain] Translations are coming! - (Anonymous), 2005-08-24 05:03 am UTC

[info]yamashitaaki
2005-08-24 01:32 am UTC (link)
Busca en tu diccionario los términos plagio y propiedad intelectual

My Spanish sucks, but that made me lmao.

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[info]panthea
2005-08-24 01:35 am UTC (link)
lastima que shaka tambien le dan mala fama de gay! >:-(

I don't know why, I just love the look of that sentence. Le dan mala fama de gay! It sounds like someone's last name or something.

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 01:39 am UTC (link)
One day I wish to see a wank in french...then I'll get it.

Mistal

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 02:06 am UTC (link)
Alright, first batch of screencaps done. The ones that hms deleted in the Shaka essay.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/imnotbookworm_e/494.html

About the Saints Instincts... How to train your Saint! Deleted comments here:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/imnotbookworm_e/520.html

Have fun. Heavy images, though.

-bookworm_e

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[info]tiki
2005-08-24 02:40 am UTC (link)
How is it possible to like Saint Seiya and NOT like hothot buttsex? This show is so gay it makes Gravitation look like a Charles Bronson movie.

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(no subject) - [info]onewingedhyu, 2005-08-24 07:15 am UTC
Brain bleach, plzthnx - [info]komorebi, 2005-08-25 09:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2005-08-25 07:39 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 04:16 am UTC (link)
So damn right!!!

Hello =) another yaoist who joins the community!

May I donate My 3rd anti-yaoi execution? I think it would be fun for the all of you to read ^__^ and don't worry, I have it writen in English & Spanish.

Let me know!

Selene18, the Yaoist Demoness

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[info]onewingedhyu
2005-08-24 06:21 am UTC (link)
What wank. I mean really. I was able to follow it but damn.. it's rather amusing. I've nothing against people who are antiyaoi.. (Though I am pro-buttsecks) but I think it is her 'making a right out of two wrongs' that reeked of asshattery.

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 07:18 am UTC (link)
She deleted the posts :(

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NOMG MASSIVE BAHLEETION
(Anonymous)
2005-08-24 07:49 am UTC (link)
She deleted ALL of the entries. Luckily, we were able to salvage these!

http://fungafufu.amethyst-soul.net/LJ/2010-levelup.html

http://fungafufu.amethyst-soul.net/LJ/hms_shaka.htm

http://fungafufu.amethyst-soul.net/LJ/hms_test.htm


-darknightrain

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[info]annabelle_lee
2005-08-24 08:32 am UTC (link)
I hate it when I can actually muster up enough to follow along and it turns out to be batshit wankery that I can't even laugh at because it's so stupid. ;_;

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[info]the_wanlorn
2005-08-24 09:11 am UTC (link)
Bilingual wank? *day is made*

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[info]amakath
2005-08-24 10:02 am UTC (link)
I'm astounded at how much of that I was able to understand. And yet I still can't place an order at the taqueria without embarrassing myself.

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[info]redjackcash
2005-08-25 08:43 pm UTC (link)

So wait...basically, she's defending her actions by totally changing the point? "I know what I do is bad, but I think your yaoi fanfic does the same! P.S. I WILL KEEP DOING IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S WRONG"

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-26 01:37 am UTC (link)
Allright! =)

But... Can anyone tell me how can I log in here? I don't know how to create a new account >> everytime I click the link they ask me for a "creation code"

Meeeh... I think I'll post this as annonymous then xD

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megasaint....¬¬
(Anonymous)
2005-09-01 12:55 am UTC (link)
check this out....and comment if you like (despite the title in Spanish, the post is in English)

Yaoi o antiyaoi, esa es la cuestión...[2] (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ariadnascrp/66296.html)

Ariadne

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