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I would prefer not to ([info]arien) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-08-27 18:03:00


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Current music:"Kill a Kitten" -- Stephen Lynch

"who is he to say that witchcraft is bad wen he is so, for lack of a better word, freaky?!"
Marilyn Manson makes a joke about Harry Potter.

Harry Potter fans on the Pit of Voles Mugglenet fail to realize this is a joke and not a swipe at their beloved wizard. Some highlights under the cut:



It would be a good comparison, except one thing: Harry Potter is fictional. If he wasn't, then I'd say that would be a mean comment. No one cares if he does practice "witch craft" because that's not what the book's about; it about good vs. evil, and that's something everyone's happy with.
posted by: lupinfan

Even though it IS the sun... i wouldn't put a comment like that past manson. But this is really like the pot calling the kettle black... i've had the chance to see one of his so-called "shows" and he is ten times worse than any actual pagan worshippers. I hope he's ready for the back lash that his comment is going to get but then again this is manson and a comment like that from him is intended for one thing and one thing only: instigation.

Tough talk for someone who rips apart kittens on stage...

posted by: Noshippers

God, that's stupid! i know it's a joke, but it's not funny.. .
btw, Noshippers- does he really rip apart kitttens??? That's sick and freaky. I always knew he was a physco.

posted by: Hermione Fan

Well...of course he's strange. He's a guy named Marilyn.
posted by: person

I do not lie and i actually saw the kitten incident take place on one of his videos. I know it was alive hence the reason it was squirming around while he held it up in the air and all the people just chanting him on like he's some idol. US culture depends on musicians, actors, and celebrities in general WAY too much for their entainment, but this is all my PERSONAL opinion with the exception of the cat thing. I have that right (being american) and do not personally like manson, his music, or idealology simply because its all destructive. Naturally there are two sides to every issue, but people just like to argue in the end.

BIG difference between what people WANT to be true, and what is actually truth. =/

posted by: Noshippers

does he realize that harry potter is a fictional character?
posted by: Jessica

The point is that there is enough depression in the world without artists like manson simply doing it to "make a living." Music (particularly) is supposed to be an inspiring thing, not destructive. You can't better yourself by dwelling on your worst moments and crying about it. You live, learn, and adapt. However keep in mind that this is MY opinion, and not anyone else.

Getting back to Manson's supposed comment. Basically he has no room to talk, but don't EVEN put HP and him in the same catagory. Why you ask!?

HP- inspiring story about the bonds we as humans make

Marilyn Manson- simply making money off a maybe a bad childhood. ((Look at all his records and you will never see a real change in subject matter... simpy the same old meaning with new rhymes... and never anything positive.))

posted by: Noshippers

Marilyn Manson is like, the epitome of devil worshippers and evil...Harry Potter is a fictional character, and I do not see his 'practicing of witchcraft' to be as evil (or evil at all) as Marilyn Manson's practices. For goodness sake, it's a story, and no one goes out and kills themselves after reading a Harry Potter book.
posted by: Kathryn

Strange, I had no idea real-life witchcraft involved making pineapples tap dance across desks, traveling by floo powder, and turning teacups into hamsters.
Anyway, Marilyn was clearly making fun of people who bad-mouth the books when he said that, not that I'm particularly inclined to stick up for him, being the creepy man that he is.

posted by: Whom W. Who

Wow what a filthy hypocrit he dates rose mcgown and if im not mistaken she plays a witch on tv.. man someone has problems
posted by: Savannah

Heehee, I found that to be pretty funny actually. All you people get offended easily.I'm a huge Potter fan but if someone dises it or jokes about it I don't go freakin nazi about it. You guys need to be open minded.
posted by: April

he is just a weird and it isnt like we beleive in witchcraft, we just like reading these books. plus, who is he to say that witchcraft is bad wen he is so, for lack of a better word, freaky?!
posted by: Alyssa Grint

WOW, he shouldnt say anything about Harry Potter. Just look at him, and listen to his music. He has afected childeren alot more than HP has.
posted by: Paul

Noshippers, do you actually believe that?

That is so stupid! Do you think he would get away with doing that? Do you think so many people would like him if he did that? It was fake! I honestly can't believe you fell for that.

posted by: The Fool

</i>Umm, Manson never slaughtered kittens onstage. That whole chicken accident that happened all that time ago was a complete accident, and was brought by an audience member and not Manson, he didnt expect the people to go insane and rip it apart.

Noshippers, he didn't kill a kitten onstage, I've been to his concerts and he does nothing of the sort.

It's a joke people, get over it.</i>
posted by: o.O

It doesn't matter what i say here. Do what you want, but ultimately harry potter and Marilyn Manson are two COMPLETELY different things.

Just for the record though- whatever his stage antics, it doesn't change the fact his music is still destructive in the sense that there is no inspiration to it. Nothing for people to feel good about, but simply bashing someone's skull in or something of the like. I've no more to say on this.

posted by: Noshippers

W/E, I hate him.
Gothics are messed up to.
And his music can affect kids that listen to it. It says some pritty strange things.

posted by: Paul

Okay, I commented earlier about this being funny because he is Marilyn Manson, but common, people, he was joking! I mean, I'm no fan of his, (nor do I have anything against him), but even I know he was joking.

THIS IS MARILYN MANSON!
He is aware he tore apart kittens and is named after a neo-nazi, no need to tell him he is freakish.

posted by: zooey

that is riddiculous! harry potter is a book for the ages, not a book saying to people 'here, practice witchcraft!' like jk rowling said in an interveiw. people take things to liturally, they're kids, but they know its not real. (i wish it were, hogwarts sounds so cool!) its all for fun, not to support santin or somthing.

besides, i never liked marilyn manson anyways.

(hey ugly, if you're reading his, your name, marilyn, goes great with that bad-boy look and attitude. what kind of boy name is that anyways?) *rolls eyes*.

seriously, harry potter kicks major hiney. you're just jelous that he's more popular than you, even though he's a fictional characture.

posted by: maggie

harry potter is fiction? why wont christian catholic and now marylin manson understand this... no one is out there with a wand like thing saying "expelliarmus" to anyone now are they? *i hope not anyways lol*

posted by: chinny

I think you guys are funnier than Marilyn Manson right now.
posted by: zooey

Me, too. :D




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(Anonymous)
2005-08-28 01:45 am UTC (link)
He just said that so to be todays cause of HP wank, right?

Seriously, those guys are hilarious :D

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[info]mariagoner
2005-08-28 01:59 am UTC (link)
He said: “I get blamed for being bad but this kid is practicing witchcraft from a very early age which is totally unacceptable.”

Heeeee...! I think this round goes to Marilyn Manson. Not only does he practice better quips than Harry does, Dita Von Teese is far, far cooler and hotter than his arm candy is.

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[info]caoilte
2005-08-28 01:59 am UTC (link)
I'm sure his fiancee Dita would love to know he's dating Rose McGowan from Charmed. Maybe he USED to....but anyway....

Those ppl are funnier than the statement he made *chuckles* I didn't see anything wrong with what was an aside joke that he appears to have made...

They need to get a serious reality check here....

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-28 02:02 am UTC (link)
*snerks*

Heh. He may make shitty music, but as a person he actually seems pretty cool.

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[info]jira
2005-08-28 02:14 am UTC (link)
*laugh* I like Zooey. And I love Manson. I like his music and I think he actually has some good ideas.

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dracothelizard
2005-08-28 02:27 am UTC (link)
But... I thought Fanfiction.net is the Pit of Voles? *is confused*

Also, I'm sure Marilyn Manson has done a LOT of freaky shit on stage, but killing a kitten? Probably not.

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tourette
2005-08-28 02:35 am UTC (link)
I am always amazed at the lack of a sense of humour vast swathes of our fandom has. To these people, anything that even faintly sounds like a criticism, even if it is plainly a joke as far as people who are not batshit insane can tell, is torn to shreds by mad adolescents whose rage causes them to abandon spelling.

You guys, it was a joke! A joke, which means he wasn't being serious, which means it's alright! And frankly, even if he was being serious, a far better response would be to point and laugh, because that would just be too silly to get angry about.

It's fans like this that make me want to automatically support anyone who criticises the series, even though I'm in the fandom. Please, all of you, calm the hell down :(

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(no subject) - [info]nima_skysong, 2005-08-28 04:10 am UTC

rowleyorama
2005-08-28 02:38 am UTC (link)
I like the lovely irony of "OMG HE KILLED A KITTEN!" coming from a group of people who usually threaten each others lives over ships.

And wasn't the chicken incident someone else?

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[info]expeliarbum
2005-08-28 03:11 am UTC (link)
HP- inspiring story about the bonds we as humans make

Yeah right. Anyway, this people cannot take a joke or even an opinion without wanking? where's their sense of humor? Maybe it sunk together with Harmony

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[info]littleshebear
2005-08-28 03:20 am UTC (link)
"seriously, harry potter kicks major hiney. you're just jelous that he's more popular than you, even though he's a fictional characture"

Is there a jurisimprudence law about the "OMG UR JEALOUS" argument coming up in wanks (Harry Potter wanks in particular)?

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[info]memii
2005-08-28 03:25 am UTC (link)
I bet Manson just wanted to get on Fandom Wank.

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[info]luckdragonfujur
2005-08-28 03:25 am UTC (link)
Mugglenet comments: tl;dr
Manson: I think he was funny xD

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[info]yubsie
2005-08-28 03:28 am UTC (link)
Isn't FF.N already the Pit of Voles? :p

Mugglenet needs its own name. :p

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[info]capsulekei
2005-08-28 03:46 am UTC (link)
...Wow. To me, that joke suggests he's a Potter supporter. It at least says he's against the people mindlessly bashing it just because it deals with witchcraft. HP people need to stop getting their knickers in a twist over every little thing. I mean, this is him being on our SIDE.

Also, am I the only one finding "US culture depends on musicians, actors, and celebrities in general WAY too much for their entainment" way, way too funny? 'HOW DARE YOU LOOK TO ENTERTAINERS FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT!!!1!@!'

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(no subject) - neoangelss, 2005-08-28 04:55 am UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2005-08-28 03:48 am UTC (link)
does he realize that harry potter is a fictional character?

Does the fandom?

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[info]lizbee
2005-08-28 03:50 am UTC (link)
HP fandom apparently underwent a humorectomy without anaesthetic on July 16. Oh well, at least I'm being entertained.

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-28 03:52 am UTC (link)
Can't these people read?

Manson was upset because Harry was an underage magic user! It's great to know that someone out there recognizes the threat of teen wizards.
I agree with him totally, and think that Harry Potter (and teenage drivers) are a terrible nuisance to our society.

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[info]angelhunter
2005-08-28 04:00 am UTC (link)
For goodness sake, it's a story, and no one goes out and kills themselves after reading a Harry Potter book.

Now, after HBP, I wouldn't bet any money on that.

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[info]dark_puck
2005-08-28 04:12 am UTC (link)
W/E, I hate him.
Gothics are messed up to.
And his music can affect kids that listen to it. It says some pritty strange things.
posted by: Paul


For the nth time, Marilyn Manson is not Goth! *rants, raves, cools down*

THIS IS MARILYN MANSON!
He is aware he tore apart kittens and is named after a neo-nazi, no need to tell him he is freakish.


...Last I heard, neither Marilyn Monroe nor Charles Manson were neo-Nazis. Manson may have been a psychotic hippie, but that's something else entirely from being a Nazi.

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[info]jim_smith
2005-08-28 04:28 am UTC (link)
I think you're all overlooking the real point of this story, which is that Marilyn Manson has completely lost his edge because he's discussing the merits of children's books.

Looking forward to hearing Slipknot's review of March of the Penguins, though...

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[info]gal_montag
2005-08-28 05:13 am UTC (link)
Dude, it's Manson, there's no excuse not to know he was joking. Jesus.

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[info]all_is_not_lost
2005-08-28 05:21 am UTC (link)
*bangs head against wall*

WHY

*bang*

ARE

*bang*

PEOPLE

*bang*

SO

*bang*

FUCKING

*bang*

STUPID?




If anyone wants me, I'll be in my trailer.

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[info]rimrunner
2005-08-28 05:29 am UTC (link)
It's in the Sun for fuck's sake.

Why do they care?

Why am I asking?

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[info]marlo
2005-08-28 05:57 am UTC (link)
Awwwww, nuts. My Marilyn Manson icon's over on LJ.

::loves MM::

Seriously. He was one of the best things in Bowling for Columbine. He knows what the hell is going on in the world.

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[info]the_wanlorn
2005-08-28 06:17 am UTC (link)
Stepping away from everything they said about Marilyn Manson himself, cuz that's a whole 'nother pile of wank, how could they not tell that he was joking?

I'm suddenly worried that being a Harry Potter fan kills braincells. =( I still need all of mine!

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