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Valerie ([info]valeriex) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-09-03 13:59:00


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The L Word Vidding Wank
In the LJ community vidding, charmax posts about how Toni of the website Hypervision Video is posting videos without the creator's permission, and chopping up other people's vids and calling them her own. Charmax e-mails Toni, and Toni responds with:

"VIIDDERS DO NOT SEEK PERMISSION FROM FILM STUDIOS, TELEVISION NETWORKS, OR THE ACTORS FEATURED IN THEIR VIDEOS,yet they demand it. TO THIS I GIVE A RESOUNDING "GIVE ME A BREAK"."


Charmax posts again asking other vidders to back her up by e-mailing Toni and telling her to cut it out.

Astartexx has an e-mail exchange with Toni that she posts here. Highlights include:

"If you want me to remove anything from my site send me a donation of $25.00 U.S. Dollars. Use the PayPal button available on the Filmwork page. Other than that leave me the hell alone."

She also says she has received permission from Showtime to use L Word characters in her fanfic, and that her fanfic is copyrighted.

As for her vids:

"I was only going to show mine when I finsh getting my Master's degree this semester. DO YOU HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE? I don't think you do the way you arer placing so much effort in this bullshit."

Astartexx suggests she is receiving her Master's Degree in Stupidity.

Toni, of course, has many Hollywood connections and a scary internet lawyer:

"I have been contacted by several people in the entertainment industry and I also have connections. Now since you want to harrass me, and since my partner is an attorney, and since I have been contacted already about the right to make videos and wether it is copyright infringement. I tell you what I am going to do. I will contact the studios in Hollywood that I am in touch with and inform thrm about how Veronica mars, Xena, Alias, and other shows are being infringed upon by Bronze Ambition and websites affiliate with Charmax. ok IS THAT FAIR? That is what I will do."

Toward the end of the page:

"I used to work with retard people as a mental health counselor, so yes I understand your insane ineffective ramblings but you still need to learn English."

Toni has also put up a FAQ page where she claims she is being censored and posts the e-mail addresses of the people who are "harassing" her.

UPDATE: Bloodypoetry e-mails Toni as well, and she replies with such gems as:

NO ONE pays attention to these types of rules. There is nothing I can do about that. That's why I had the story (minus the L Word characters COPYRIGHTED!)

You are now blocked from sending me email and have been listed on my site as a person who opposes freedom of expression.

That's right; if you e-mail Toni, the terrorists have won.



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[info]ingrid
2005-09-03 08:42 pm UTC (link)
Dedicated flamemail pages!

Caplocks of DOOM!

Internet lawyers, theft and hysteria!

This is some fine old school wank. The page of cut n'paste emails is something I'd never thought I'd see again in this sterile land of LJ threading.

So beautiful. *loves*

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(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2005-09-03 09:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rhi_silverflame, 2005-09-03 09:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]manic, 2005-09-11 06:06 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-09-03 08:50 pm UTC (link)
I also emailed her, and posted a transcript of the exchange on my LJ, here..

http://www.livejournal.com/users/bloodypoetry/68606.html

The whole thing is mindboggling. Wow.

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[info]caoilte
2005-09-03 09:10 pm UTC (link)
I have dealt with this sort of rubbish for over a year in another fandom. Has nobody ever heard of going to her service provider and having her site taken off the net for theft and infringement?

*is seriously angry and annoyed at the memories this stirs up*

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(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2005-09-03 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2005-09-03 09:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2005-09-03 09:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2005-09-03 09:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-09-04 12:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2005-09-04 04:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-09-04 08:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]piratelair, 2005-09-07 01:46 am UTC

[info]theamazingrando
2005-09-03 09:28 pm UTC (link)
Her webpage makes my eyes bleed. And not just because of the poor choice of text colour, but the layout is a mess. It looks like someone vomited text boxes and poor quality images all over the place.

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(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2005-09-03 10:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-09-04 02:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - dodyskin, 2005-09-06 10:36 am UTC

[info]loopywafflehead
2005-09-03 09:34 pm UTC (link)
Wow. This Toni person is nuts. Where does she get the energy from?

I am not sounding like a stubborn little brat, I am an adult woman, not a child. you people are trying to scare me and intimidate me by sending me emails and posting on my guest book and I will not let you control me.

(Scotty voice) You can't control me! You don't have the power!

She claims to be 46! *boggles*

WELL I MAY NLOOK YOUNG IN MY PHOTO BUT i AM 46, i AM OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR MOTHER, no wonder your logic makes no sense to me. You are the one who sounds insane because you do not have the life experience yet to understand that what you write makes no sense because it is from the perspective of a 25 year old. All I can say is GROW UP!

You are the ones who are the ball lickers! Seriously, 46?!

Do not insult American education because Germans are always comming to America to take advantage of it.

Ahahahaha! There's really nothing more to add to that.

This is a fun one to watch, although I pity the people dealing with the crazy person.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-03 09:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 02:59 pm UTC

[info]rhi_silverflame
2005-09-03 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Wow! Degree-flaunting, teh intarweb lawyer, "OMG DUN STEEL," and claims of PTB-sanctioned fanfic. This wank has got it all!

*weeps with joy*

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(no subject) - [info]nima_skysong, 2005-09-03 10:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rhi_silverflame, 2005-09-03 10:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moriath, 2005-09-03 10:24 pm UTC

[info]judyhazeleyes
2005-09-03 09:57 pm UTC (link)
I used to work with retard people as a mental health counselor

... amazing. I'm actually speechless.

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(no subject) - [info]moriath, 2005-09-03 10:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]athornbird, 2005-09-04 03:21 pm UTC

[info]entrenous88
2005-09-03 10:19 pm UTC (link)
Good gravy.

How frustrating for the vidders who spent hours and hours making their contributions.

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(no subject) - dodyskin, 2005-09-06 10:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entrenous88, 2005-09-06 12:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - dodyskin, 2005-09-06 03:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-07 02:24 am UTC

[info]furiosity
2005-09-03 10:36 pm UTC (link)
DO YOU HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE?
Ok, that's just classic.

o.O

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(no subject) - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2005-09-04 12:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2005-09-04 03:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tapedeck, 2005-09-04 09:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dontdrinkthetea, 2005-09-04 03:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosina_alcona, 2005-09-05 02:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dontdrinkthetea, 2005-09-05 11:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]imperialgirl, 2005-09-04 01:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettypinkkitty, 2005-09-04 02:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2005-09-04 04:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]imperialgirl, 2005-09-04 04:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 05:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2005-09-04 01:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]greypearl, 2005-09-04 02:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2005-09-04 03:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]napoleon, 2005-09-04 06:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2005-09-04 04:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]littlebitca, 2005-09-04 06:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]knightrider, 2005-09-04 01:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dark_puck, 2005-09-06 05:32 am UTC

[info]loopywafflehead
2005-09-03 10:40 pm UTC (link)
The two of you have sent me emails harrassing me and trying to control what I show on my website, and how I get clips. So I will add 1 extra week that the vid that Charmax made stays up for each email. Another friend of Charmax has harrassed me so much I already added 4 weeks and now the 2 additional week for these email make 6.

Toni, the patron saint of mature 46 year olds.

Slightly off-topic, but Bloodypoetry says in one of the emails:

Also, I suppose you need to be warned, that Fandom_Wank usually gets ahold of these things, and the results are not pretty. They have no worry about being nice or polite. Everyone involved will be flamed by their thousands of fans, charmax included. So don't be surprised if this devolves even further into childish name calling.

Where are these legions of thousands? If FW had some kind of control of that many people, I think we'd send them off to do better things than indiscriminately flame people.

(Sorry, I'll stop spamming your post now.)

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(no subject) - [info]ninja_stripper, 2005-09-03 11:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2005-09-04 03:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]marumae, 2005-09-06 01:07 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2005-09-04 03:56 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-09-04 08:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2005-09-04 10:48 am UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-09-04 02:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-06 02:05 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-09-03 11:18 pm UTC (link)
tl;dr. But it's interesting how clearly fandom has established "good" and "bad" plagiarism.

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(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-09-04 04:27 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-09-04 07:50 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-09-04 07:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 10:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2005-09-06 09:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2005-09-04 04:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2005-09-04 11:44 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 06:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-09-04 09:27 am UTC

[info]kijikun
2005-09-03 11:19 pm UTC (link)
WTF?!?

*boogles and wishes she still new some hackers*

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-09-04 12:22 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 01:08 am UTC
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[info]sarahkjrsten
2005-09-03 11:57 pm UTC (link)
What is it about the internet that makes people over 40 act like insane small children on a candy high? I mean, seriously....

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(no subject) - [info]mrbimble, 2005-09-06 05:35 pm UTC

[info]caoilte
2005-09-04 12:03 am UTC (link)
This person is older than I am and feels the need to steal people's videos? That is some serious WTFage going on right about now.....Did she learn NO manners at all?

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-09-04 12:23 am UTC
For fic like this the word 'turgid' was invented
(Anonymous)
2005-09-04 12:44 am UTC (link)
[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<help [...] alive!>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

<HELP KEEP MARINA AND JENNY'S STORY ALIVE! SEND IDEAS AND STORY SUGGESTIONS TO:
mailto:lezxotic*yahoo.com
If your idea is used you will be cited for your contribution>

Is it so wrong to be amused by this desperate cry for help?

Mouseketeer

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[info]adora_spintriae
2005-09-04 01:49 am UTC (link)
Christ, that's one ugly-arse webpage.

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[info]emlan
2005-09-04 01:52 am UTC (link)
If I was going to take Charmax's video down, well I won't now and she can thank you for that.
Yup, I sure am seeing the maturity level of a 46 year old woman here.

But holycrap, saved emails, the race card and CAPSLOCK OF RAGE?
Thank you santa. I knew being a good girl would pay off in the end.

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[info]minibalrogmum
2005-09-04 02:04 am UTC (link)
Random CAPS LOCK! Truly, it's not an argument of LOGIC until the words stand out.

But as far as the donations are concerned, I am a writer (writing is an art) and people have actually offered to pay for my fan fiction stupid fool, and even some people associated with celebrities have written me complimenting my writing, (remember writing is an "art"). Because I cannot get money for the fan fiction I told them to make a donation to me instead asshole!

All we need is a) for her to start asking for money to write fanfic, b) a little HP involvement with JKR's cruel hand of ship-smiting and inability to write her own books, c)MsA's long thesis on why the vids are cruely forced by PR to be kept on free downloading sites instead of proudly walking down every service provider's e-highway - and then this wank would be the wank of all things wanky.

And possibly the splooge would drown the Earth and God would seperate the wanking from the wanked in the kingdom of Hive Vagina, amen.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-04 02:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2005-09-04 11:30 am UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-09-04 02:39 pm UTC

[info]_bellisima
2005-09-04 03:20 am UTC (link)
Gosh, I wish my mom were as internet-literate as this lady. Then I could get her to e-mail Toni, then she might listen since my mom is no twenty-five year old. :P

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(no subject) - [info]moriath, 2005-09-04 05:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_arel, 2005-09-04 10:22 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-09-04 05:55 am UTC (link)
Right now the 'retarded people' are looking at each other and saying, "Hey now, let's not bring *us* into this."

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[info]badger
2005-09-04 06:12 am UTC (link)
I'm 46 and I wish to tell this woman to get out of my age group, as she's making all of us look like idiots.

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[info]the_wanlorn
2005-09-04 08:02 am UTC (link)
That website makes my eyes bleed. And not in a pleasent way.

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(no subject) - [info]moonjaguar, 2005-09-04 10:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_arel, 2005-09-04 10:21 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-09-04 08:45 am UTC (link)
But as far as the donations are concerned, I am a writer (writing is an art) and people have actually offered to pay for my fan fiction stupid fool, and even some people associated with celebrities have written me complimenting my writing, (remember writing is an "art"). Because I cannot get money for the fan fiction I told them to make a donation to me instead asshole!

Yes, people associated with celebrities have complimented her writing! Like, Tom Cruise's personal trainer totally thinks she has a good grasp of metaphor. And the guy who colors Brad Pitt's hair likes the way she writes dialouge!

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[info]tapedeck
2005-09-04 09:52 am UTC (link)
This is fabulous. It's wank, 1998 style!

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Anonymous wank report
(Anonymous)
2005-09-04 11:24 am UTC (link)
Not strictly fandom, but doesn't this (http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1551867,00.html) remind you of certain BNFs? Also see here (http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1561002,00.html) (scroll down to "Writers and readers") for the response.

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Re: Anonymous wank report - [info]crickets, 2005-09-04 11:42 am UTC


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