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Jen ([info]missandrony) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-09-05 19:47:00


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Current mood:Prettiful
Current music:Interpol - Evil
Entry tags:fandom: inuyasha, fanfic, rape, the mice defend her

New Rule: Non-Consensual =/= Rape
Short but sticky Inuyasha wank.

InuGrrrl writes your average, everyday, typical violent rape fic (with "i luv u"s exchanged after the fact to signal to the reader that It's All Good) and initially makes no note of this in her summary.

It's the typical kissing ass until 'distressed' points out that a disclaimer might be nice, among other things.

The fact that you don’t seem to consider what Inuyasha did here as rape is very unsettling, and as a survivor I can tell you that I was actually insulted by this fic. I myself did not become aroused during the experience of rape, but I know those who did.

Please, in the future, write about topics you have researched WELL. And again, if nothing else, please ad the N/C or rape tag to your story.


Heavy-handed, but not incorrect. That, however, inspires InuGrrrl to remove the fic from AFF (no great loss), much to the dismay of a few rabid squirrely fangirls.

I did not think of it as rape, she was fearful and excited you said it. Yes she probably was a virgin and having a very DOMINATE MAN COMING TOWARDS HER, does not make it RAPE. She begged him to continue for her release, I am sorry but myself being a rape victim, One does not beg for release. Please put your fic back up it was good. I didn't take offense to it. OH and when you are raped do you tell the other person that they love you I think not.

AFF is supposed to be a place where ALL fanfiction is accepted, and not looked down upon.

read this story before Inugrrrl took it off and distressed, you are a fucking retard to have an open mind, I mean really I can understand your accusation toward the story but still, to make a writer feel bad about a stupid mistake in your mind is just to me inhuman.

'distressed' replies again and tries to correct a few misconceptions about her review, which don't seem to stick in anyone's brain. Finally InuGrrrl reposts the story with a tl;dr comment of her own in the reviews where she whines about how she did not glorify rape, and throws this gem into her new author's notes:

I have decided to repost my story. Enough people have requested it and I think it's fair. I have also added N/C and OOC to my summary but I will NOT add rape. It wasn't a rape and I won't say it was to please others.

Because just because it's non-consensual, that doesn't make it rape! There's also a note from her beta reader about this topic, revealing that this story, which focuses on how Kagome is 'beta' to Inuyasha's 'alpha' and must be put in her place, was a gift for the beta reader.

I don't know about anyone else, but if the person I betaed for wrote a fic about raping a 'beta' as a present to me, I would run for the Internet Hills.

ETA: Looks like the author got wind of things and the story/reviews came down with it. I, being a good little veteran of FW, have saved the story, the beta's note, and the original reviews.

Also, check out the entertaining wanking going on in this very post right here!




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[info]ladylance
2005-09-06 05:02 am UTC (link)
o.o

Why not just run for the Internet Hills now?

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-06 05:07 am UTC (link)
DON'T RAPE THE BETAS Because you seem to need them. Do you seriously think Inu would rape her? This is why I never read 'Yasha fic. That series bores me, but the fandom terrifies me.

~Emi

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-06 05:09 am UTC (link)
tl;dr means what...?

--Out of the Loop

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[info]darth_snuggles
2005-09-06 05:11 am UTC (link)
you are a fucking retard to have an open mind

I keep rereading that in the hope that it'll eventually make sense, but Lady Logic, she doth not reveal herself this time.

As for the fic itself:

"Your mate, Your bitch."

"I love you, Kagome."

"I love you too, InuYasha."


She had me at "your bitch." Damn, that's romantic.

*kills the IY fandom*

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[info]iamtheenemy
2005-09-06 05:20 am UTC (link)
Ok, that story is rape rape rape rape rape rape. Who the hell does the author think she's fooling?

Kagome shook with fear as InuYasha stared down at her. In one swift movement, Kagome was in his arms as he all but flew across the treetops to an unknown destination, leaving Sango and Miroku where they stood. Kagome considered using the word but thought better of it. She would have only gotten them both hurt. Fisting his haori, Kagome said a prayer hoping for a miracle.

InuYasha slowed to a stop as a cave came into view. Landing abruptly, he set Kagome down none to lightly as he stared into her frightened eyes.

'She should be afraid.'

'She should know her place.'

'She will learn her place'

'I will teach her.'

'She will bow down.'

'She will submit to her alpha.'

Kagome shifted her weight from one foot to the other in a nervous fashion. She was all alone with a transformed InuYasha. Miroku and Sango, her only protection were far away. Her mind raced with thoughts of escape. She eyed the rosary on InuYasha's neck, but before she could think, he addressed her.


There is no world in which this wouldn't be rape. If you're into rape fic, fine, good for you, have at it. But don't write something like this and then write some bullshit trying to rationalize it. The male character wants to control the female character, so he forces her to have sex. The fact that she eventually enjoys it doesn't mean that he didn't rape her, it means that the author skewed the reality of the situation in order to give the story a happy ending. Which, again, if you're into that kind of fic, then you'll like the ending. It's fanfic (and, you know, not even particularly GOOD fanfic), not some political statement. But it most definitely portrayed rape. She should have known to put a warning.


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[info]issendai
2005-09-06 05:39 am UTC (link)
Hooookay. Teen sexual politics scare me.

I read a bit of the story, and... yeah. Rape. It was the typical "No! No more! No more! No... more! No, more! More!" fanfic rape, psychologically unreal enough to be a rape fantasy rather than a proper rape story, but close enough to the borderline to need a warning.

On one hand, I sympathize with the author about putting an N/C rather than a rape label on the story, since it's supposed to be a rape fantasy with weird consent lines rather than a realistic story about rape. OTOH, she's not defending herself with that line of reasoning. She didn't write a rape story, "the thought of rape wasn't even anywhere in [her] mind at the time," she totally didn't think anyone else would think it either, and she's the product of rape so she should know!

(Oh, and dl;dr.)

One wonders what she thinks rape really is, if getting hauled off to a cave by an enraged man and told "Fucking move again and I promise you will regret it" doesn't wave big ol' "Get yer nonconsensual here!" banners.

Teen sexual politics? SCARE THE FUCK OUT OF ME. Nonconsensually.

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[info]badger
2005-09-06 05:41 am UTC (link)
God save me from romance rape. Because we all know them uppity women are just hankerin' to have a big, viral man show'em who's boss, yup!

No means no. It's always meant no. What part of that doesn't the author understand?

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[info]lillyv
2005-09-06 05:53 am UTC (link)
AFF is supposed to be a place where ALL fanfiction is accepted, and not looked down upon.

...why do I find this comment both horrifying and hysterical at the same time?

I wonder if she would accept the John Cena "Surprise, surprise, I gay now!" fic. I mean, if ALL fanfiction is accepted...

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-06 05:55 am UTC (link)
*yawn* Yet another rapefic wank. They make the world go round.

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[info]expeliarbum
2005-09-06 05:57 am UTC (link)
The difference between non-con and rape being? I think I'm a little lost...

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[info]speshulduck
2005-09-06 06:52 am UTC (link)
You see, since we're airing our laundry, I'll air mine. I am the product
of a rape. Date rape to be specfic. Since the rest is my deceased
mother's business, I'll stop right there.


Why, Olivia Benson! I didn't know you wrote shitty Inuyasha rapefics!

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(no subject) - [info]lizzypaul, 2005-09-06 07:30 am UTC
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Not on Journalfen but... - (Anonymous), 2005-09-06 08:10 am UTC
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Hee! - [info]kittenmommy, 2005-09-07 09:13 pm UTC

[info]nightwalker
2005-09-06 07:09 am UTC (link)
Okay, on the one hand, the fic is just bad. I'm more concerned with the level of OOC, poor grammar and cliched sex than anything else.

On the other hand, the sex is either rape or BDSM (I'm inclined toward rape myself, since participants of BDSM go in wanting it, no matter what they roleplay during the act), and it's only courteous to warn your readers of what they're getting into.

*shudders* I mean, it was just bad.

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2005-09-06 04:18 pm UTC

[info]arielchan
2005-09-06 07:12 am UTC (link)
Umm... actually, I'm just showing off my new wank icon.

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ealusaid
2005-09-06 07:16 am UTC (link)
See, this is why I actually try to avoid friendly, personal contact with my beta-clients. If someone hands me a gift-fic, I actually feel bad about telling them it's crap. That beta either wasn't doing his/her job, or is a very sucky beta.

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(no subject) - [info]lizzypaul, 2005-09-06 07:33 am UTC
I don't have a LJ account - (Anonymous), 2005-09-09 03:40 am UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2005-09-06 07:44 am UTC (link)
This story was simply about domination. It isn’t abusive or rape, it’s about a Youkai putting his mate in place. Hence bowing to an alpha. It is no different then what animals do, aside from the sex. All pack animals have an Alpha. In the Kagome/Inuyasha pack they are the alpha female and male.

Kagome may be an alpha female, yet she is still Beta to Inuyasha. He is the stronger of the two, therefore she must obey him. This would be law for Youkai. He has finally had enough of Kagome trying to override his Alpha position and he is disciplining her for it.


Somehow I'm having a hard time buying that. Even if this is apparently the "law for Youkai". I mean, isn't Inuyasha only half-Youkai? And I can't see him wanting to play by that "law" anyway, especially with Kagome.

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[info]lizzypaul
2005-09-06 08:32 am UTC (link)
Read the fic against my better judgment and ew. I want the brain bleach. In what universe is that not rape? Write whatever the hell you want, but have the ovaries to call it what it is. I'd be pissed if I read that without the warning (as I knew beforehand, it was my own damn fault for letting my curiosity get the better of me).

Lastly, to the *anon* that said Rumiko Takahashi didn't write InuYasha as an animal. Newsflash -she also didn't write him as a ; Vampyre (oh god, she spelled it with a 'y'), rock star, high school kid, southern slave(WTF?), chef, business man, broadway star ::whimper::, actor, dancer or any of the THOUSANDS of characters authors have dreamed up for him. That comment was ridiculous.

You lose at life.

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[info]angstymcgoth
2005-09-06 08:34 am UTC (link)
Maybe their safe-word was "wank in progress" and Kagome, like the author, just forgot.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-06 03:19 pm UTC
That’s not love; that’s Stockholm Syndrome.
[info]greyscale
2005-09-06 08:36 am UTC (link)
The only thing more frightening than the fic itself (not only for plot but for style as well) is the 'I wanna grow up and be raped by Youkai!Inuyasha' fan girls who are falling all over themselves to convince a couple (sane) people that Inuyasha was acting out of twue youkai wuv...

"InuGrrrl and I have had a discussion about it and we both agree it’s simply about discipline, nothing more."

Well, the voices of wisdom have spoken! Whatever would we have done without Dumb and Dumber around to help us sort through these pesky moral ambiguities!?

"...From this moment on I will (at least on this site) be absolutely, fucking RETARDED..."

Thanks honey, but you’ve already got that down cold.

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Re: That’s not love; that’s Stockholm Syndrome. - (Anonymous), 2005-09-06 08:45 am UTC
Re: That’s not love; that’s Stockholm Syndrome. - (Anonymous), 2006-04-05 07:20 pm UTC

[info]psychesky
2005-09-06 08:55 am UTC (link)
I swear, the tendency of Inuyasha writers to turn the female characters on that show into simpering IDIOTS never fails to amaze me. Come on! You have really kick-ass girls to work with!

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[info]kats_kradle
2005-09-06 09:18 am UTC (link)
Because being horribly traumitized by the guy she has to be with to recover the shards is going to have NO effect on their working relationship. None at all. Nope. Nada. Everything's going to be peachy, dandy and covered in Sugar Plum Faerie shit after the blood crusts over.

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2005-09-06 11:52 pm UTC

[info]aerobot
2005-09-06 09:31 am UTC (link)
GASP! A rape victim dares to call a fanfic with violent non-consentual sex RAPE! The sheer nerve of her! If the author says it isn't, then it just isn't!

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[info]pepperlandgirl4
2005-09-06 09:46 am UTC (link)
That was one crappy fic, just looking at the mechanics of it. Seriously. Her beta shouldn't get gifts, her beta should be fired.

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(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-09-06 12:38 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2005-09-06 10:10 am UTC (link)
Yeah, clearly rape etc etc...

But, man, I'm just appalled by the fact that that was some really clichéd, shitty sex. D:

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-06 02:28 pm UTC (link)
Aah, Inuyasha. Seriously, what other fandom has so much potentional for bestiality, F/m bondage, collar!fetish, necrophilia, underage pr0n, incest and bloodsports?

Except from HP, I mean.

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