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SoM ([info]somnambulicious) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-09-14 15:02:00
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Boundaries? We don't need no stinkin' boundaries!
angel_josie wants everyone to know that some things are off-limits for fanfiction writers (and this time, it's not chan!)

I know that there was a time when there were certain writings that people considered untouchable: religion, mythology, Shakespeare, history [...] etc. And now? Now there seems to be no boundary to what you can write fanfiction about.

And behold, fanficrants did lay the righteous smackdown.
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[info]zebeckras
2005-09-14 10:18 pm UTC (link)
I'm heartily amused by how she mentions Shakespeare in with the "untouchables", as if Shakespeare didn't himself write anything that fictionalized historical figures, or any of that... Way to make your point. *G*

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(no subject) - [info]out_bottle, 2005-09-15 05:35 am UTC

[info]hickorydickory
2005-09-14 10:19 pm UTC (link)
Hah! When have people ever left mythology alone?

Also, gotta love the random emboldened words of indignation!

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[info]made_by_kali
2005-09-14 10:20 pm UTC (link)
*pulls pants back up*
I love it when they make it so easy to point out the holes in their arguements.

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::needs a tissue::
[info]sabinelagrande
2005-09-14 10:23 pm UTC (link)
I think the wankerese-to-basic translation on the second page is my favorite part.

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Re: ::needs a tissue:: - [info]crickets, 2005-09-15 03:28 am UTC

rachelthedemon
2005-09-14 10:28 pm UTC (link)
I wonder what she would say if I told her that I counted the Bible itself as fanfiction?

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-14 10:29 pm UTC (link)
Can't...resist...

This wank makes Baby Jesus cry!

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-14 10:30 pm UTC (link)
I remember back when a fanfic writer felt compelled to write an alternate version of a story, so people could choose between the story that contained something edgily out of bounds, and the story that wouldn't disturb them.

The difference between the stories was that the sex scene in one of them included a brief description of rimming.

Ah, innocent days.

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[info]lydiapinkham
2005-09-14 10:32 pm UTC (link)
The OP is just a baby ranter. She'll be fine with a few years and some education under her belt. She seems a bit sensitive for a non-believer. Perhaps an undercover convert?

Best comment, by valarltd: Paul perpetrated this tradition, and started the new one of writing about a show he'd never seen.

HA!

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-15 09:14 pm UTC

[info]antimatterspork
2005-09-14 10:41 pm UTC (link)
There was a time when people didn't write religious fanfic?

Personally, I have a hard time deciding which is worse: the people who are serious, or the people who deliberately try to piss off the people who are serious. (Jesus/severely underage!Harry Potter anyone?)

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-14 10:42 pm UTC (link)
Objecting to historical fanfiction? WHY? That's the best stuff out there! I mean, who doesn't want to imagine the South winning the Civil War, the USA fighting allying with Germany to win WWI and taking over Englnd-ruled Canada while fighting the CSA teamed with England and France and those other nations!

Who could object to THAT?

- Turtledove fan mouse, commenting for the sake of amusement.

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-14 10:59 pm UTC (link)
If you shouldn't write fanfic based on the Bible, then King James (or the gentleman who actually did the rewrite, I forget the name) is in serious trouble!

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-14 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Well, you can argue that Anne Rice has done the same. In Memnoch the Devil, her main character goes to heaven and gives God the idea for Jesus, and basically tells God how things should be run. And God goes 'huh, yeah, that was a good idea, I'll do what you say!'.

Tell me this isn't true. Please, someone, tell me that she didn't actually write it like that.

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2005-09-14 11:21 pm UTC (link)
She reminds me of the troll that deadmentalking had a while ago, who insisted that we were being disrespectful by having a humorous RPG about dead historical figures. That was also some rather fun pwnage.

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-14 11:52 pm UTC (link)
One word: Midrash.

In other words, the almighty great untouchable rabbis did fanfiction on the Bible. Some of the earliest fanfiction, actually. Are you(the person you) saying the rabbis are badfic writers?

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[info]moriath
2005-09-14 11:57 pm UTC (link)
I know that there was a time when there were certain writings that people considered untouchable: religion, mythology, Shakespeare, history

Religion: As others have pointed out, all the various translations of the Bible basically equal fanfiction. And clearly this girl has never read the ever so wonderful Lamb: The Gospel According To Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal. The image of Jesus as a six year old eating lizards to bring them back to life never fails to make me laugh.

Mythology: Again with various versions basically becomming fanfiction. Not to mention Shakespeare using mythology and sundry historical figures to create his "untouchable" works.

History: ~points to the historical fiction genre and rests her case~

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[info]annabelle_lee
2005-09-15 12:07 am UTC (link)
Oh, Josie. You were better off when you were drawing and writing Digimon yaoi, dear. Now that you're in the YGO fandom, you've turned into a wanker. I'd shed a tear, but there's a water shortage here and I need to conserve.

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[info]elektra3
2005-09-15 12:26 am UTC (link)
Her indignation is all the more amusing when you consider the fact that she's a fan of a series which scrambles together mythology like a bizarrely-coiffed omelet.

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soula
2005-09-15 01:08 am UTC (link)
certain writings that people considered untouchable: religion, mythology, history

I think this chick needs to be introduced to all the references to Zeus/Ganymede chan in Ancient Greek epics and dramas, or possibly that (fourth- or fifth-century BCE?) mpreg!Zeus comedy.

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-15 02:53 am UTC (link)
*hides God/zeus and Mary/Mary fanfic* Guess this means my Jesus/Joseph Songfic is out of the question. Damn, and Wicked Little Town personifies their realtionship perfectly.

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[info]gal_montag
2005-09-15 03:11 am UTC (link)
Her assertation that writing historical figures differently than they actually were is horrible was especially amusing to me. It means she can never read another hostory book ever again.

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[info]serafina20
2005-09-15 03:21 am UTC (link)
Yay! This is the second ranter in about a week who would be OFFENDED and APPALLED by my fic! Of course, this time it's an original novel and not fanfiction, but still.

Someone needs to tell them about Anne Rice's autobiography of Jesus. Or get her a signed copy.

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[info]darkchan
2005-09-15 03:25 am UTC (link)
... Shit, I recognize this person... she's in a puzzleshipping community with me... -_-;; As for the mention of Greek Mythology being "untouchable", dude, the ancient greeks themselves wrote about their gods in different lights (aka altered characterization), poked fun them, and changed events around a bit to suit their plot. It's not quite fanficton, but it's pretty darn close. Look at Aristophanes.

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[info]prettypinkkitty
2005-09-15 03:54 am UTC (link)
But...but what about the Madeleine L'Engle bible fic? It was awesome! Plus Washington Irving's George Washington fic!

Also, someone should tell her that a good deal of Shakespeare is fanfic itself, dontcha think?

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(no subject) - [info]livviebway, 2005-09-15 07:05 am UTC

[info]atalantapendrag
2005-09-15 08:11 am UTC (link)
Y'know, I bet the Pre-Raphaelites would be miffed at being told they were doing fanart of That Which Should Be Untouchable.

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(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-09-17 05:13 am UTC
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