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Alison ([info]alison) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-09-18 14:55:00


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DeAr YoNMei: REVeaL YOuR IDEntITY oR ELse
This wank has it all. Blackmail threats, sockpuppets, private e-mails gone public, LJ abuse, private posts made public, then made private, then made public. Can you keep up?

It starts here with [info]yonmei and her post about someone in the Edinburgh area threatening her with blackmail so she has to reveal her alternate identity to the world rather than let the blackmailer win.

My favorite part of the wank is where a friend of Yonmei suggests that LJ Abuse should be contacted to report this crime:

"If it were me, I would just do what she did to those of us she was fighting with and threaten her with reporting her to LJ. Actually, if I were feeling petty I probably would just report it and send them the email she sent you, and ask for copies of anything from her LJ with your name in it in the last few months."

The alleged blackmailer jumps into the fray and posts her own rebuttal here along with private e-mails to prove she didn't threaten Yonmei. Comments are disabled.

The original post where Elance finds out Jane Carnall is Yonmei is here.

Jane/Yonmei ponders that maybe Elance is upset about her dual identities because Jane/Yonmei is known for her harsh criticism of authors on Critical Edge and FCA-L lists and Elance is an author. But that theory is quickly disproved.


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(Anonymous)
2005-09-18 09:43 pm UTC (link)
My favorite part of the wank is the part where Elance earnestly explains, "But I've sat and puzzled over it for days and tried to see a way out, and I can't. I don't know what to do." Let's ponder her options: Do nothing, or be a whiny, confused drama-hound? I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!Thank god she figured out a good way to play victim after those "days" of puzzling over it.

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-18 09:45 pm UTC (link)
Lots of identity issues at the moment in here--first we had scramasaxx, then honesty in fandom, now this. Ouch.

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-18 09:52 pm UTC (link)
Although in "jane carnall"'s user info, she mentions the fact of having another journal, and there's no weird-ass scramasaxx-like personality invention going on. Just one journal for fic and one for everything else. Doesn't seem too underhanded.

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ealusaid
2005-09-18 10:08 pm UTC (link)
Don't forget the possibly Japanese, possibly male, possibly married to a Floridian-type-person, though that was just a sidewank.

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[info]sabinelagrande
2005-09-18 09:53 pm UTC (link)
What the hell does anybody care? Unless one of the journals was all "lolz, i luv hilter! u r suck! XD" or gave gushing praise to the other journal, who cares if somebody has two fandom identities?

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ealusaid
2005-09-18 09:59 pm UTC (link)
Yonmei has a teensy habit of bringing wank to the yard (the most recent example was otf_wanked) so I might see why she wouldn't want the two connected.

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(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2005-09-18 10:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-18 10:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 01:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-09-19 03:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonjaguar, 2005-09-19 05:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2005-09-19 11:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonjaguar, 2005-09-20 02:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2005-09-20 02:40 am UTC
Smiling faces sometimes smile in your face - [info]moonjaguar, 2005-09-19 02:59 am UTC

[info]kannaophelia
2005-09-19 02:15 am UTC (link)
Well, I care a little, because I can go, hey, I have these old hand-photocopied Blake's 7 zines from the dawn of the time and the girl writing columns and Avon/Vila was that [info]yonmei person I see around all the time on different comms. That's kind of cool.

Beyond that, no, not really, unless there was serious sockpuppetry involved, which doesn't seem to be the case.

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-18 09:54 pm UTC (link)
You missed the big funny posted by E on 9/11 which begins John and I are pondering starting up a hosting company for fanfiction/slash authors... (http://www.livejournal.com/users/elance/435037.html).

Fuck, yeah! Let me sign right up. Here's my true i.d. on my credit card. Now, I can trust you not to link that with my fan pseud, right? Right? Right!?

ROTFLMAO!

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[info]wibbble
2005-09-18 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Dunno: are you stupid enough to use your 'true i.d.' as your LJ username?

Jane/Yonmei has been using her real name in fannish circles for /decades/. This was never an issue of 'outing' her RL name as a slash writer.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-18 10:58 pm UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-18 11:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wibbble, 2005-09-19 08:30 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wibbble, 2005-09-19 07:32 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wibbble, 2005-09-19 08:53 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wibbble, 2005-09-19 09:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 10:24 pm UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 02:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wibbble, 2005-09-19 08:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2005-09-18 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 03:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mrbimble, 2005-09-19 05:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 07:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wibbble, 2005-09-19 07:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2005-09-19 10:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2005-09-20 12:37 am UTC

[info]willywanka
2005-09-18 09:55 pm UTC (link)
I discovered yonmei and janecarnall are the same person!

Nope, it still sounds boring when you say it aloud. If elance had discovered gay fiddle porn sticking out from Bush's back pocket, that'd be worthy of a dramatic entry. Or, if she discovered Bush and the gay fiddle were the same person/instrument. I'd even bring balloons with OMGWTFFIDDLESTICKS on them.

Dear LJ User: So you discovered so-and-so is also so-and-so. Welcome to the internets.

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[info]platedlizard
2005-09-19 07:53 am UTC (link)
... I'm not much into slash, but DAMN, I want to read gay fiddle porn. Just because I like fiddles.

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[info]theladyfeylene
2005-09-18 09:57 pm UTC (link)
That is one dizzy merry-go-round of wank!

Also, I have no idea who any of these people are or what exactly was going on. :D

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Dramaqueens
(Anonymous)
2005-09-18 10:03 pm UTC (link)
I am not sure why Yonmei acts like no one knew about her other journal. I've known for at least a year that Jane Carnall was Yonmei and it didn't occur to me that no one was supposed to blab.

And how did I find out? Another fan told me and she isn't friends with Jane either. It was widely known around a couple of fandoms that Jane is in.

So Jane Yonmei's sekrit identity wasn't all that secret in my opinion, which is why I am not sure this is wank worthy at all and seems like overblown teenie drama to me.

Mouseymouse

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Re: Dramaqueens
ealusaid
2005-09-18 10:10 pm UTC (link)
Yes, but, overblown teenie drama IS wank.

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Re: Dramaqueens
[info]nebbieq
2005-09-19 01:31 am UTC (link)
She's like an incompetant superhero, in a way.

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Re: Dramaqueens
(Anonymous)
2005-09-19 10:44 pm UTC (link)
I thought everyone knew Yonmei = Jane Carnall.

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dracothelizard
2005-09-18 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Okay, so one person has two fan identities or something and stuff gets wanked. Erm, bored now. I preferred the H/Hr shipping wank.

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[info]charmian
2005-09-19 12:40 am UTC (link)
Curious, why does Elance hate Yonmei so much? In the post there are some references to some kind of fight they had....

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-19 12:55 am UTC (link)
Yonmei had a long, stupid fight with elance's husband (wibbble). Elance flounced around taking offense because God forbid her husband should appear capable of conducting his arguments all by himself. Yonmei offered a mutual, temporary defriending so they could all calm down. Elance refused because flouncing around was so much more fun.

Also, they live in the same city, they met in person, Yonmei was nice and normal, and Elance feels icky and betrayed because she was tricked into liking Yonmei when she didn't mean to.

To sum up, everybody is dumb.

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Trolls afoot - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 04:35 am UTC
Re: Trolls afoot - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 05:11 am UTC
Re: Trolls afoot - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 10:21 pm UTC
Re: Trolls afoot - [info]crickets, 2005-09-19 10:44 pm UTC
Re: Trolls afoot - [info]miss_padfoot, 2005-09-20 02:16 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-09-19 07:14 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-09-19 01:03 am UTC (link)
Elance posts -
This is probably a bad idea to post. I freely admit that it will probably inflame drama everyone wishes was over. But I've sat and puzzled over it for days and tried to see a way out, and I can't. I don't know what to do.

Talk about being dishonest with yourself (and others). If you post something you know will "inflame drama" then you can't honestly claim at the same time that you wish it was over. The way you end drama is to simply stop responding to it.

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[info]notjo
2005-09-19 11:02 am UTC (link)
Oh dear flying fucking icecream, yes.

That is my biggest pet peeve ever in the history of ever. "Oh, I am going to do something really assinine, and I know it's assinine, but I'm going to do it anyway because I CAN!"

*wanders into the bedroom to wank all on her lonesome now*

Stupid stupid stupid stupid people.....

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-19 01:44 am UTC (link)
Nothing invested in this wank but, point of interest?

elance writes:

This, however, is not what happened, and as she has already posted an out-of-context excerpt from our email conversation, I have no qualms about posting the entire conversation, so you can see for yourself that no blackmail took place. It's not blackmail when you don't give in to someone's demands.

That just gave me a giggle. :)

El Muchomouse-o!

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[info]kijikun
2005-09-19 05:33 am UTC (link)
The mice! The mice!

Damnit who is leaving the cheese out!

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[info]psychesky
2005-09-19 05:35 am UTC (link)
I just can't slog through all this tripe.

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(Anonymous)
2005-09-19 06:44 am UTC (link)
Heeeyyy... wasn't elance outed some years back and there were omg rekerpussions?

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