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The Other Dubya ([info]misswindy) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-10-08 17:12:00


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Cameron Hate is sooo 2004-2005 season.
On [info]house_md, user [info]finding_jay shares that her mother is much cooler than she previously thought, because while watching her first episode of House, Moms said Dr. Cameron was a slut.

Some people think it's hilarious. Other, more jaded [info]house_md frequenters begin the countdown for when the Cameron fans will start wanking.

The Cameron fans do indeed arrive in droves.

Naturally all discussions of FOX TV characters are ripe for extremely serious feminist/ linguistic analyses, bearing fruit with such insights as:

"Today's slut may not be your dad's slut!"

In a similar vein, [info]finding_jay, whose profile clearly lies reads: "I am above all a lady", says I'm assuming by way of apology: "My mom is currently going through a slut phase."

My personal favorite comment: I think 'slut' is a little excessive. And rude. YOU probably wouldn't appreciate it if I called one of your favorite characters a 'whore.' (So am I the only one whose favorite characters are ALL slutty whores then???)

UPDATE #1: Someone who used to be a mod asks: Can't we debate ANYTHING without wanking the hell out of it? Psh. N00b.

UPDATE #2: And the comm collectively replies: No.

Well. The illusion that this show appeals only to smug, tactless misanthropes like me has been forever shattered, that's for damn sure. :(



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[info]plazmah
2005-10-08 11:33 pm UTC (link)
Damn, you beat me to it! Was just about to post it :)

I stayed out of that wank. FWIW, I don't mind Cameron. I like her. I like House/Cameron. But I love everyone on that show. I wish they could all have one big happy love-in. Except without Vogler.

Also, every time [info]finding_jay says something I want to smash my head into the wall.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-08 11:39 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-10-09 01:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]isobelsomething, 2005-10-09 07:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-10-09 08:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 06:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 08:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 06:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fairy_tale_echo, 2005-10-11 04:08 am UTC
(no subject) - wizzard, 2005-10-09 05:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 06:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabsy, 2005-10-10 09:59 pm UTC

[info]iczer6
2005-10-08 11:40 pm UTC (link)
House makes jokes about getting together with prostitutes, and we have hints that he had an affair with Cuddy as well as living unmarried with Stacy.

What? You mean the misanthropic doctor was 'living in sin' and cracking jokes? How shocking!

And where did the 'affair with Cuddy' come from. I've never seen anything to indicate the two dated outside of Chase's fantasies.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-08 11:42 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-08 11:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]selene_avis, 2005-10-09 01:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nebbieq, 2005-10-09 12:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 12:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]twentyfivepast, 2005-10-09 01:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]baskinglizard, 2005-10-09 03:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]twentyfivepast, 2005-10-09 07:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-10-09 01:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2005-10-09 01:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2005-10-09 03:27 am UTC
(no subject) - sharonapple, 2005-10-09 02:34 am UTC

rachelthedemon
2005-10-08 11:51 pm UTC (link)
C'mon. Everyone knows he's already married to the Vicodin, and polygamy's illegal. Sorry, ladies, you're outta luck.

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(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2005-10-09 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - rachelthedemon, 2005-10-09 12:24 am UTC
(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2005-10-09 12:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2005-10-09 01:30 am UTC
(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2005-10-09 01:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2005-10-09 01:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2005-10-09 12:29 am UTC

[info]waterfront
2005-10-09 12:07 am UTC (link)
I might not find Cameron's character particularly compelling or interesting (er, I feel the same way about Chase, too), but still, where do you pull slut from? the magic hat of Not Watching? Granted I missed the latest episode, so it's possible she got plastered, popped off her heels and went for the go-go boots, and after putting the nail in the coffin that is Wilson's heterosexuality marriage, gave Cuddy a lapdance, but I doubt it. Even if I'd find her character suddenly awesome.

More importantly: where's the Foreman love? He's big, hot, intelligent, snarky, and awesome.

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(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2005-10-09 12:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 12:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2005-10-09 12:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 01:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2005-10-09 12:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]b_jellybean, 2005-10-09 04:36 am UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-10-09 01:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2005-10-09 02:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 02:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rachelmap, 2005-10-09 03:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2005-10-09 03:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]batsith, 2005-10-09 07:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-10-09 11:45 am UTC

fuzzy_ears
2005-10-09 12:27 am UTC (link)
I like Cameron. Even though I sometimes don't agree with her inconsistent characterizations and horrendous dialogue, I think Jennifer Morrison is a fine actress and doesn't deserve a lot of the flak that fans give her. HouseCam? Also pretty cool.

That aside, what I will probably take away from this wank is that finding_jay keeps mentioning sort of disturbing stuff:
1. My mum calls everyone a slut. She calls me a slut, and I'm a virgin.
2. She also calls me a variety of other names (not as insults, but it's just something she does). And I call her names back.
3. First off, no, 'slut' isn't an endearment. It's... well, you know (well, maybe you don't), but you call someone an 'idiot' and you don't mean. Maybe they've done something stupid, and you just go 'oh, you're such an idiot!' It's like that.

Is that... is that normal? It's fine with really close friends, but her mom? Back and forth? Really?

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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 01:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pipssister, 2005-10-09 01:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 01:40 am UTC
(no subject) - fuzzy_ears, 2005-10-09 04:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 05:08 am UTC
(no subject) - rowleyorama, 2005-10-09 01:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gal_montag, 2005-10-09 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]b_jellybean, 2005-10-09 04:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2005-10-09 06:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-10-09 11:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beandelphiki, 2005-10-10 12:54 am UTC

[info]m_butterfly
2005-10-09 12:35 am UTC (link)
The illusion that this show appeals only to smug, tactless misanthropes like me has been forever shattered, that's for damn sure. :(

No, it also appeals to people drawn to smug, tactless misanthropes. Which includes, but is not limited to, Snape fans, the six Nero Wolfe fans who are watching, the fifteen people who still remember John Glover's performance in Brimstone, codependents, and Cameron.

Though really, I repeat myself with those last two.

(Meanwhile, I can't help thinking: m'god, my fandom. Wank over feminine rights/portrayals/morals, character bashing, and slash in general? This is the best you can do? It's so... so... generic.)

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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 01:11 am UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2005-10-09 01:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 01:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 01:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]twentyfivepast, 2005-10-09 01:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 02:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rachelmap, 2005-10-09 03:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 03:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]acrimonious, 2005-10-09 05:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2005-10-09 08:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 08:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2005-10-09 09:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 10:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2005-10-09 10:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 10:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2005-10-09 10:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]selene_avis, 2005-10-09 01:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-10-09 01:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2005-10-09 04:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 04:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-10-09 11:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]msmanna, 2005-10-09 04:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lizbee, 2005-10-09 06:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 06:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lizbee, 2005-10-09 06:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]acrimonious, 2005-10-09 05:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]batsith, 2005-10-09 08:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]b_jellybean, 2005-10-09 04:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2005-10-09 08:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]slothrop, 2005-10-09 06:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2005-10-09 11:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2005-10-09 08:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rachel_pi, 2005-10-10 05:16 pm UTC
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[info]nebbieq
2005-10-09 12:51 am UTC (link)
Other, more jaded [info]house_md frequenters begin the countdown for when the Cameron fans will start wanking.

"Ohhh, you're such a dirty little MD, aren't you? Unf unf unf!"

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[info]kinneas
2005-10-09 01:10 am UTC (link)
Wow, who gives a fuck? OMG BAD WORDS

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[info]baranduyn
2005-10-09 01:23 am UTC (link)
"Well. The illusion that this show appeals only to smug, tactless misanthropes like me has been forever shattered, that's for damn sure. :("

I feel your pain. I don't watch House, but I had the same reaction when I found out there was a maelstorm of shipping and shipper wars in the CSI fandom. I admit to jumping in, but I jumped right back out again. There I was thinking CSI was about crime solving and that. Silly me.

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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2005-10-09 01:42 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-10 09:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]baranduyn, 2005-10-10 09:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-10-11 10:55 pm UTC

dracothelizard
2005-10-09 01:24 am UTC (link)
And the mod posts too, to ask if we can't all debate intelligently. Fans? Debating intelligently when it comes to disagreeing about favourite characters? She must be new.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]greenglass, 2005-10-09 02:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stellabymoor, 2005-10-09 06:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]acrimonious, 2005-10-09 04:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]acrimonious, 2005-10-09 04:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2005-10-10 04:51 am UTC

[info]gal_montag
2005-10-09 02:17 am UTC (link)
Was wondering when that's end up here. And also wondering why people are defending an imaginary person's virtue. It was like when people in the Buffy fandom had all those icons that read: "She Said NO!"

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(no subject) - fuzzy_ears, 2005-10-09 04:24 am UTC

[info]ultimate_cin
2005-10-09 03:18 am UTC (link)
I don't know...I personally like Cameron and I ship H/C, but I tend to stay away from the main house_md comm just because of the Cam hate that tends to pop up. I don't understand it....and as for this chick's mom calling Cam a slut....has she really even watched the show?? House is pretty much the only one Cam would drop her knickers for...and that is SO not happening at this moment in time....

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(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2005-10-09 07:39 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]acrimonious, 2005-10-09 06:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sassyinkpen, 2005-10-09 05:48 pm UTC
Tidbit of info for you - [info]acrimonious, 2005-10-09 06:22 pm UTC
Re: Tidbit of info for you - [info]sassyinkpen, 2005-10-09 06:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ultimate_cin, 2005-10-10 02:53 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2005-10-09 08:58 pm UTC

[info]sententia
2005-10-09 03:46 am UTC (link)
I think that terms like slut and slutty has taken on a very broad definition for a lot of people. I'm not a fan of Cameron, although I'm not so invested in the show that she makes me break out the caplocks of rage - I don't tend to hate characters even in fandoms where I am heavily invested - but I do think of her as slutty. Now, slutty in itself isn't a bad thing. House is slutty, Wilson is slutty, Cuddy is slutty, and I love them and all their sluttiness. But Cameron is slutty - in my mind - not because she sleeps with a hundred different men, but because of the way she infused her working relationship with House with an attempted sexual one, and how she continued to push that even when he quite clearly wanted her to back off.

That fits under my definition of slutty, although as I said, I think that the term really is quite broad now and everyone has a different interpretation of what does and doesn't classify. When she's not playing the woe-is-me card or the House card, she can be a pretty engaging and funny character.

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(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2005-10-09 04:36 pm UTC
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[info]kantayra
2005-10-09 04:30 am UTC (link)
SLUT!

OMG I just set back women's rights decades! Now we'll all be stoned for having sex! OMG! *flails*


Bitch. Please.

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[info]felinephoenix
2005-10-09 06:32 am UTC (link)
I think my mum's in a bit of 'slut' faze.

Excuse me while I take that out of context and giggle and point and laugh.

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(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-10-09 12:03 pm UTC

[info]wankprophet
2005-10-09 07:01 am UTC (link)
Just to piss off all you Cameron fans, I'm declaring once and for all that she's a prostitute-- as in, she literally takes cash for sex -- and a very stupid person with redeeming qualities only in the sense that she'll need a helluva lot of redemption to fix said qualities. Oh, and she has bad breath.


No, I've never seen the show and have no idea who Cameron is. Why do you ask? I think the amount of Cameron-wank is sufficient evidence of my claims without having to watch the damned show too.

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(no subject) - [info]batsith, 2005-10-09 08:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-10-09 12:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-10-11 10:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-11 11:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-10-11 11:02 pm UTC

[info]isobelsomething
2005-10-09 07:46 am UTC (link)
Whatever.

House/Chase FOREVER!

(teh pretty + teh snark = ooh, shiny!)

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(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2005-10-09 04:39 pm UTC
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[info]fishandbicycle
2005-10-09 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Does [info]finding_jay do lady's things? Like stroking kittens and sitting down to piss?

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[info]aerobot
2005-10-09 02:39 pm UTC (link)
I think it must be some rule of fandom; anyone dissing a female character MUST call her a slut or something similar.

And people say it's not a gendered insult. :P

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2005-10-09 05:02 pm UTC (link)
I'd like to know where ickle miss Enchanted_April is when dad and I routinely call House a fucking jackass.

Gimme a break. Apie, you sound like a 'suethor defending Princess Daisy Sunflower Rainbow Honey Sakura Buttercup. If you could can the wounded-martyr-who-is-oh-so-edgy-for-liking-a-"bash'ed"-character routine I'd be more inclined to take you seriously.

THE MULTIHEADED HYDRA IS UP YOUR ASS

Um pardon me I'm just really tired of stupid matryr crap. apie = like teh harmonian.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 06:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2005-10-09 06:16 pm UTC

[info]wrongly_amused
2005-10-09 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Oh my Gosh, shut up, people. So what if her mother called the chic a slut? Holy shit, it's just a television show, and her mother was probably just kidding. [info]finding_jay shouldn't have shared the anecdote, but Cameron isn't going to die a horrible, flaming death because one person called them a slut.


Yes, but she obviously thought her mom's wordchoice was worthy of repeating. Pfft. I can't get into a debate on semantics, but I just think an adult woman calling a television character any name, much less 'slut' is pretty immature. Presumably she's my age or older. She should know better the challenges women face in the workforce and elsewhere.

Because an insult of a character deserves insulting a real life person. Here's your sign, halfwit.

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[info]snacky
2005-10-09 05:46 pm UTC (link)
I love [info]finding_jay: "Well, yeah, my mom called Cameron a slut, but she doesn't mean it like *that*! That's just how my mom talks! She calls me a cocksucking whore ALL THE TIME! And it just means she loves me, but wants me to clean my room."

Imagine dinner time at this home:

"Pass the potatoes, you pigfucker!"

"Here you go, bitchface whoremaster -- I mean, DAD."

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(no subject) - [info]slayer, 2005-10-09 05:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2005-10-09 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-10-11 10:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-10-11 10:58 pm UTC

[info]sabinelagrande
2005-10-09 06:05 pm UTC (link)
So am I the only one whose favorite characters are ALL slutty whores then???

::raises hand::

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[info]nostalgia
2005-10-09 08:49 pm UTC (link)
I think this all stems from someone confusing Cameron with Wilson. Ah, such an easy mistake to make.

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-10-11 11:02 pm UTC

[info]gabsy
2005-10-10 10:03 pm UTC (link)
I saw that happen. And I laughed. Very hard.

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