Log In

Home
    - Create Journal
    - Update
    - Download

LiveJournal
    - News
    - Paid Accounts
    - Contributors

Customize
    - Customize Journal
    - Create Style
    - Edit Style

Find Users
    - Random!
    - By Region
    - By Interest
    - Search

Edit ...
    - Personal Info &
      Settings
    - Your Friends
    - Old Entries
    - Your Pictures
    - Your Password

Developer Area

Need Help?
    - Lost Password?
    - Freq. Asked
      Questions
    - Support Area



Wankprophet ([info]wankprophet) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-10-12 22:44:00


Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend!  Next Entry
Entry tags:community: fanficrants, entitlement, isn't it awfully nice to have a penis, sexism

It's a Man's World...or maybe it's just written that way....
Minor fanficrants wank that I'm posting thanks to the heel-dragging of [info]senor_pinata

lord_gribeau is a male, and apparently loves it. Whether his fondness for his Y chromosome is due to the vertical bathroom use, the fabled One-Orgasm-at-a-Time, or just the abundant job opportunities as a Roman Catholic pederast, he doesn't make clear. But one thing is certain:
He's not happy sitting at the boy's table in the fanfic world.
Not that I can blame him – boys make creepy shapes with their mashed potatoes, which could put anyone off his dinner. But it's the women he's upset with:

And I'm annoyed at parts of the female fan fiction population, especially the quasi-academic, use-big-word female crowd. I'm annoyed at females who put down men in discussions regarding fan fiction. I'm annoyed at the portrayal of men in fan fiction.


If you're going to discuss men, INVITE THEM TO THE TABLE. If you look through some of the conversations on the big meta and fic journals that discuss gender, slash, & reading habits of the fan fiction writing community, you frequently see a lot of women, females, girls. Rarely do you see any men. These women, you know who I mean, will talk and talk about men. And they'll subtlely bash my wonderful gender. They'll say that isn't it wonderful that women can identify with characters regardless of gender and men can't do that. Shove it female fans with your elitist feminine attitudes! Men can relate to female characters just as well as women can relate to male characters. Some men can. Some women can't. And your brother, husband, lover, gay male friend, father do not represent all males. Get a larger pool. Men can do romance. Straight men can watch two gay guys screwing on screen with out going all homophobic on people's asses. There are some wonderful anime shows with two guys in a relationship that have male audiences. Your female bashing of men as being uninterested in romance is hurtful to men because it reinforces negative stereotypes.

So stop your discriminating. Stop your talking about our gender without actually asking our opinions or getting us involved in those discussions. Stop putting down our gender in order to put yours up.

You'd think fan fiction writers and slash writers, would know better than to do this but it just isn't so. Learn and stop the playa hating male bashing that exists in too many fan fiction communities. We see you even if we're not saying it!


The reactions start out relatively mild, mostly along the "mmm, I see. Okay. I can buy that." lines. Then the people at the women's table glance over and see him acting out. Millyfan begins the countdown and people get a tad testy. Or ovaresty. Or something.

I was going to excerpt examples, but then I realized how long this would get. Click. Read. Learn. Are men the new black? Are gays the new men? Ask yourself what the real reason is for people thinking raptorscribe is a girl.

Oh, and no furry male bashing. My Intraweb lawyerz are standing by, dammit.

Oh hell, go ahead and bash males. Just don't bash the nasty furries. I almost mean it.




Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>

(Post a new comment)


[info]jetamors
2005-10-13 05:00 am UTC (link)
fondness for his X chromosome

Y chromosome, perhaps? Sorry, can't think of anything snarky to say.

And I really don't understand lord_gribeau's point. If anything, most fandoms seem to be heavily tilted toward men, even if the people writing/drawing/talking are mostly female.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-10-13 05:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2005-10-13 05:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]roni_maxwell, 2005-10-13 08:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2005-10-13 04:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2005-10-14 02:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2005-10-13 02:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2005-10-13 04:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-10-13 08:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2005-10-13 09:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2005-10-13 10:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]baskinglizard, 2005-11-07 06:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]waterfront, 2005-11-07 05:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]baskinglizard, 2005-11-07 07:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tetsuki, 2005-10-13 05:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2005-10-13 08:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tetsuki, 2005-10-14 11:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2005-10-14 02:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]favyan, 2005-10-13 06:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]baskinglizard, 2005-11-07 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2005-10-13 06:46 am UTC
(no subject) - verthandi, 2005-10-13 08:52 am UTC

[info]kijikun
2005-10-13 05:02 am UTC (link)
...

You mean Y Chromosome, right?

Female = XX

Male= XY

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-10-13 05:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2005-10-13 05:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2005-10-13 05:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2005-10-13 05:03 am UTC
(no subject) - redwarrior, 2005-10-14 11:17 pm UTC

[info]senor_pinata
2005-10-13 05:02 am UTC (link)
Hee. Sorry `bout dat. It didn't get wanky immediately and I'm slightly sick so I went to bed early(ish). How may I atone, master?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-10-13 05:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2005-10-13 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2005-10-13 05:10 am UTC

[info]mmanurere
2005-10-13 05:04 am UTC (link)
Men complaining about how oppressed they are is a veritable fountain of wank, fan or otherwise.

Kinda like the reactionary theocrats who love complaining about how oppressed they are in their inability to tell everybody else what to do...

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]maureenlycaon, 2005-10-13 05:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]number13baby, 2005-10-13 05:44 am UTC

(Deleted post)
(no subject) - [info]number13baby, 2005-10-13 07:06 pm UTC

(Deleted post)
(no subject) - [info]number13baby, 2005-10-14 04:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2005-10-13 06:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2005-10-13 03:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]number13baby, 2005-10-13 06:59 pm UTC

(Deleted post)
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2005-10-13 05:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loony666, 2005-10-13 05:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2005-10-13 05:41 am UTC

(Deleted post)
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2005-10-13 05:40 am UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2005-10-13 05:13 am UTC (link)
Isn't awfully great to have a penis?
Isn't it divine to have a dong?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-10-13 05:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2005-10-13 05:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]coyotegirl, 2005-10-13 07:56 am UTC
(no subject) - verthandi, 2005-10-13 08:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]minibalrogmum, 2005-10-13 10:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tronella, 2005-10-13 11:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2005-10-13 12:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cellardoor28, 2005-10-13 03:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2005-10-13 05:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2005-10-13 04:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2005-10-13 05:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2005-10-13 05:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2005-10-13 05:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2005-10-13 05:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2005-10-13 05:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2005-10-13 05:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]obscurestyle, 2005-10-13 06:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]minibalrogmum, 2005-10-13 06:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-10-13 08:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2005-10-13 09:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telegramsam, 2005-10-14 03:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2005-10-14 02:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyrogue, 2005-10-14 03:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mrbimble, 2005-10-14 02:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telegramsam, 2005-10-14 03:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telegramsam, 2005-10-14 03:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]onetrickpony, 2005-10-13 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angelhunter, 2005-10-13 07:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lycoris, 2005-10-14 05:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2005-10-14 05:48 am UTC

[info]llama_treats
2005-10-13 05:19 am UTC (link)
I think someone's sad that no one is reading his fanfiction. :(((

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]somnambulicious, 2005-10-13 07:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaootaku, 2005-10-13 03:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]omnicrom, 2005-10-14 02:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2005-10-13 05:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2005-10-14 12:48 am UTC

[info]sorchar
2005-10-13 05:20 am UTC (link)
What about male furries? Yes, or no? And does their nerdiness affect things any?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-10-13 05:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2005-10-13 06:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2005-10-13 08:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ourself, 2005-10-13 07:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]a_partridge, 2005-10-13 06:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ourself, 2005-10-13 07:58 pm UTC
swearing a buttload! - [info]a_partridge, 2005-10-14 04:41 pm UTC
Re: swearing a buttload! - [info]ourself, 2005-10-15 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2005-10-13 06:28 am UTC

[info]lunarei
2005-10-13 05:49 am UTC (link)
This guy makes me hate guys.

More.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2005-10-13 06:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-10-13 06:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]miharu, 2005-10-13 07:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-10-13 07:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mrbimble, 2005-10-14 02:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2005-10-13 07:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2005-10-13 07:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lunarei, 2005-10-13 02:12 pm UTC

[info]feloniousfeline
2005-10-13 05:58 am UTC (link)
Two words, my dear male friend:

Midol sandwich.

If I don't tolerate this sort of whiny, PMS behavior from other women, I sure as hell won't tolerate it from you and your glorious, rights-entitling cock of splendor and female-understanding.

Jackass.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - winterfox, 2005-10-13 07:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]feloniousfeline, 2005-10-13 10:51 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2005-10-13 06:27 am UTC (link)
As much as he just sounds like a whiny brat who hasn't got the adoration his overinflated ego thinks he should have and/or is a troll, he's right on this account...

Men can relate to female characters just as well as women can relate to male characters.

That's what dickgirl fics are for. No really. No really really.

(Reply to this)


[info]aerobot
2005-10-13 06:35 am UTC (link)
I wanked a bit with the 'closet feminist' thing. Where ARE all these mysterious, evil feminists everyone keeps talking about?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2005-10-13 06:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-10-13 08:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2005-10-13 06:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-10-13 08:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entrenous88, 2005-10-13 01:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-10-13 02:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-10-13 02:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-10-13 03:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2005-10-13 04:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2005-10-13 05:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lizbee, 2005-10-14 06:34 am UTC

[info]telesilla
2005-10-13 06:52 am UTC (link)
You know every time some guy in fandom gets his knickers in a twist over the fact that fandom is largely female, I can't help but feel a little shiver of glee. Because really, welcome to our world, buddy. There's finally a place where you're assumed to be female until proven otherwise and frankly, it's kind of refreshing.

I adore our tallywhacker-positive wankas for many reasons, but mostly because they deal well with the assumption when it's made.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-10-13 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]renata_hpjc, 2005-10-13 04:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-10-13 08:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2005-10-13 09:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yaoiko, 2005-10-14 02:07 am UTC

[info]drworm
2005-10-13 06:59 am UTC (link)
Fuck him for having such a damned awesome username. Fuck. Fuckityfuck.

I'm sorry, I just can't help laughing everytime I see the name "Lord Gribeau." I don't know why that little bit in Maskerade cracks me up so much. It just does.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2005-10-14 01:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]omnicrom, 2005-10-14 02:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]drworm, 2005-10-14 03:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2005-10-14 04:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]drworm, 2005-10-14 10:52 pm UTC

[info]rarirurero
2005-10-13 07:13 am UTC (link)
...So, which is hotter: Leon being raped by the monsters or by the humanoid enemies in the game, such as Krauser or Saddler?

All men are invited to this discussion!

...*sound of many cricket*

Well, that solves that.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]tiasian, 2005-10-13 12:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rarirurero, 2005-10-13 12:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tiasian, 2005-10-13 01:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rarirurero, 2005-10-13 01:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luxshine, 2005-10-13 04:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rarirurero, 2005-10-14 01:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistal, 2005-10-14 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - winterfox, 2005-10-13 07:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rarirurero, 2005-10-14 01:57 am UTC
(no subject) - winterfox, 2005-10-14 10:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yaoiko, 2005-10-14 02:15 am UTC
(no subject) - winterfox, 2005-10-14 10:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yaoiko, 2005-10-14 08:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2005-10-13 09:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rarirurero, 2005-10-14 01:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2005-10-14 02:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rarirurero, 2005-10-14 02:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dawnswalker, 2005-10-13 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rarirurero, 2005-10-14 02:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yaoiko, 2005-10-14 02:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rarirurero, 2005-10-14 02:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yaoiko, 2005-10-14 09:45 am UTC

[info]melllvar
2005-10-13 07:36 am UTC (link)
Stop putting down our gender in order to put yours up.
Bwahahahahahahahahaah! Ha! Hahah! Hee! Ha. Ho... *cough* Oh god, oh god, stop. Wait. I've got to catch my breath. *wheeze* ...Ok. Ok. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm good. I'm--

Waahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahh! *wipes tears from eyes* *gasp* *wheeze*

Dude. Welcome to Melllvar's world, where Energy Beings are put down ALL THE TIME just to make those corporeal meanies feel better about themselves. *snort*

(Reply to this)


[info]mortifyd
2005-10-13 08:40 am UTC (link)
Oh yeah. Saw that, wasn't going anywhere near it. My and my penis will be over here. Looking at Alan Rickman.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-10-13 09:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2005-10-13 10:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2005-10-14 05:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2005-10-14 06:00 am UTC

[info]quantify
2005-10-13 08:59 am UTC (link)
If you look through some of the conversations on the big meta and fic journals that discuss gender, slash, & reading habits of the fan fiction writing community, you frequently see a lot of women, females, girls. Rarely do you see any men.

What? Are we supposed to drag them in a gun point? "Sit down at that computer right now! We're discussing Harry Potter pr0n, and we need a male perspective."

I didn't realize all those fic discussion communities have sekrit Gurlz Only signs posted; I thought that anybody could join in.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-10-13 09:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2005-10-13 09:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]solunatic, 2005-10-13 09:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sokudoningyou, 2005-10-13 10:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_mouse, 2005-10-13 01:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]quantify, 2005-10-13 04:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2005-10-13 10:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]quantify, 2005-10-13 04:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2005-10-14 12:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ciaan, 2005-10-14 02:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2005-10-14 02:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2005-10-13 05:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2005-10-14 12:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nostalgia, 2005-10-13 11:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2005-10-13 12:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xanos, 2005-10-14 12:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2005-10-14 12:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yubsie, 2005-10-13 05:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]quantify, 2005-10-13 06:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - winterfox, 2005-10-13 07:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]danel4d, 2005-10-14 09:24 am UTC

[info]solunatic
2005-10-13 09:50 am UTC (link)
If you're going to discuss men, INVITE THEM TO THE TABLE.

It's not the cafeteria, buddy. Just sit down and communicate with the folks. Simple concept. Shesh, Lazzzy.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]ravenclaw_devi, 2005-10-13 02:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2005-10-13 04:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - winterfox, 2005-10-13 07:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2005-10-13 07:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2005-10-13 08:10 pm UTC

[info]rinoared
2005-10-13 11:05 am UTC (link)
Just some days ago some OMG MALE ICONMAKER complained how everyone assumes he's a she in iconrants. I sat on my hands then, I'm sitting on 'em now.

Boo-fucking-hoo. Take it like a man.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]ingrid, 2005-10-13 02:41 pm UTC

[info]nostalgia
2005-10-13 11:45 am UTC (link)
It is so sad. he got the initial "omg a male!" sycophancy, and then it all swiftly degenerates into people saying mean things like how the male perspective is not in any way under-represented in the world and how male fandoms do the same thing.

(Reply to this)


dracothelizard
2005-10-13 12:59 pm UTC (link)
If men want to be more involved in fandom discussions, maybe he should get himself more involved in them, rather than wait for people to ASK him his opinion. Just GIVE your opinion! It's not that difficult!

(Reply to this)


[info]dang
2005-10-13 03:15 pm UTC (link)
Why do I expect him to turn out to be a 30 year old woman in a few weeks?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2005-10-13 05:01 pm UTC

[info]teratologist
2005-10-13 03:27 pm UTC (link)
I feel like trying to find that study that showed that when women participated in a discussion fifty percent of the time, they were seen as 'dominating' the discussion by observers, but I'm too lazy, so I'll just use my amazing twat powers to oppress.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]telophase, 2005-10-13 08:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2005-10-14 12:54 am UTC

[info]narcissam
2005-10-13 03:46 pm UTC (link)
If you're going to discuss men, INVITE THEM TO THE TABLE.

Just for the occasion, I have to link to my favourite FAP threads ever. The Male HP fan threads. Read and cackle with laughter as women posters seek the validation of the five or six men in the HP fandom.

Adult Male HP Writers/Fans

Adult Male HP Writers/Fans II

Adult Male HP Writers/Fans III: The Sun Never Sets on AMHPWF!

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]nebbieq, 2005-10-13 10:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-10-14 03:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dwib, 2005-10-14 08:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dwib, 2005-10-14 08:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]danel4d, 2005-10-14 09:29 am UTC



Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>

 
   
Privacy Policy - COPPA
Legal Disclaimer - Site Map