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arekuru ([info]arekuru) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-10-14 21:46:00


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Entry tags:anime/manga, piracy, scantilations, sub vs. dub, yaoi

Gay Porn, Subs v Dubs v Economics 101, and a touch of Naruto bashing
Within one column, Anime News Network has succeeded in poking just about every sore spot in the anime fandom's side. Presented today for your delight: Gay Porn is teh Gross, Piracy is teh Communism, and Naruto Fans are teh Idiots. Of all of these, which do you suppose got the biggest response and which was almost ignored?

For those who aren't familiar with the site, Anime News Network, bastion of "Trusted Anime News," runs a column titled Answerman. The idea is that confused anime fans can write in to Answerman (or, if Answerman is gone for a two-year hiatus, Mrs. Answerman) and get answers to their burning questions, which range from "Why do superheroes come in groups of five?" to "When's the second season of Fruits Basket coming out?"

The Answerman column has always had a bit of satire to it, but lately it's been going less from answering questions to insulting the questioners. For example, a polite question about where to find yaoi anime similar to Kyou Kara Maoh and Gravitation was met with the following:

I'll be nice; you seem like a reasonable person, but let me set the record straight: I am not homosexual, and cannot recommend to you a good gay porn title. You have my apologies. There are some questions I just can't answer, and "which anime gives me the hottest man-on-man action" is one of them.

The comments thread has mixed reactions, and contains our first "If you don't like it, don't read it."

Answerman defends his response and inadvertently proves that he could have, in fact, answered the question at the same time:

She was pretty clearly asking me for "shows in which more than just meaningful glances are exchanged". She wanted porn. ... I wasn't attacking the genre and the reader wasn't asking for shows like Maria-sama ga Miteru, she was asking about stuff like Level-C where it's explicit sex. Read the letter. She wasn't asking for love stories.


Now, in today's column, someone writes in to ask about subs v dubs. A perfectly safe topic, of course.

The people you're talking about arguing with are a new breed of "fan" (although I hesitate to call them that) out there right now, created mostly by the proliferation of anime via bittorrent. They make a number of wacky claims, like anime companies are all evil behemoths who exist solely to drain your wallet, that all commercial translations are incorrect, that dubs "butcher" the spirit of the original Japanese version and that anime is created under some bizarre bohemian ideal that it should be totally free and readily available to anyone who wants it. Their general attitude is that anyone trying to make a buck off of anime is an evil capitalist pig-dog who disrespect and mutilate their untouchable sacred artwork.

He goes on about the quality of fansubs, people only liking subs because they can't understand enough Japanese to know if the actors are any good, and communism, and ends the whole thing on this authoritative note:

Real anime fans support the shows they love by buying the legitimate DVD release. Period.

Well, that probably won't cause any negative reactions! Just in case that wasn't enough, though, his choice for "Flake of the Week" is a "Narutard." Oddly enough, very few people object to the Naruto bashing, but, dude! He called fansubs trash! The fiend!

Some people object to the comments about quality:

ladholyman: Half-assed? Gaudy? Have you seen fansubs? And if fansubbers aren't fans, why would they work their asses off for several hours poring over vdub filters, ssa timing schemes, and karaoke? Fans? Oh yes I think they are fans.

darkhunter: They do it so simple-minded guys like you would adore them and admire them. Nowadays, fansubbing seem more like a popularity contest.


Some people write lengthy posts about the evil fans who share shows after they've been licensed.

Some people self-righteously agree with Answerman.

ACDragonMaster: Hate to break it to ya, but Answerman is RIGHT about the whole fansub issue. Too many people treat fansubs as some great end-all authority, which they're not. They're amatuer translations and efforts, and they are, technically, illegal.

Some people determine Answerman to have an anti-Fansub agenda and note the corporate tones of the recently introduced DVD giveaway each week.

lazuline: So when did Mr. Bertschy decide to become the Bill 'O Riley of anime journalism? It has now become clear that the Answerman column has an underlying agenda, for with each new column, the number of attacks against fansubs groups and the internet community have increased and become steadily more abrasive(read meaner).

...Doesn't the caption constest seem more like a marketing tool for the DVD being given away? Why include the distributor and the price of the DVD? ... As one who has witnessed first handed the growth and evolution of the ANN, it saddens me to see "the internet's most trusted anime news source" favoring the interests of what would appear to be the Anime licensing companies rather than the interests of its readers.


For good measure, some people claim anime sales are falling drastically due to BT.

jsevakis: Fansubs are absolutely hurting DVD sales these days. If you talk to studio people and look at their numbers, the drop-off in sales of all but Cartoon Network-friendly crossover series after Bittorrent became commonplace is pretty frightening.

And some say the column is only offensive if you're the one being made fun of:

Keonyn: Give me a break, nothing he stated was immature or inflammatory unless you are one of the people guilty of the specific crime he brought up. Like it or not, his article was very much about the ethics of it and if you took offense to it then it's likey you're guilty of it. It still is an informative column, you just don't agree with it now and became oversensitive in regards to it.

Such arguments continue, including the serious charge of abuse of the readers, a sweeping generalization of China, and welfare.

Well, at least it's being kept just to the one thread, right? No need to air dirty laundry in public? At least it's not being brought in to the spotlight with a Front Page Editorial, right?

So get it through your head, if you download fansubs and also support the industry with purchases, Zac wasn't calling you "despicable and hypocritical." Hell, he wasn't even calling you despicable and hypocritical if you download fansubs and don't buy anything. The only people he was calling despicable and hypocritical are those that create a bunch of lies and false beliefs in order to give themselves an excuse for not paying for anime. If you aren't one of those people, Zac didn't call you anything. He didn't say you were a bad person, and he didn't say you were a good person, he said absolutely nothing at all about you.

Get it?

Oh, and for the record, I haven't said anything about you either.


And the wank explodes. Further. This time, money and class warfare become the big issues.

My favorite comment:

dormcat: Most soccer-playing kids in Brazilian slums regard Pele as a living God, yet few could afford any merchandise related to him. The only thing they could afford in order to show their support and gratitute of Pele's inspiration is to become the next Pele by practicing soccer.

And last but not least:

Aaron White: Lazuline and Steroid; so entitled. You know why you think you're entitled to unlimited free anime? Because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO WORK HARD AND APPLY CAREFULLY HONED TALENT IN ORDER TO CREATE SOMETHING SPECIAL. If you did you wouldn't toss off such spurious and economically ignorant justifications of piracy. I've met a few of the "Piracy is okay!" crowd, and without exception they've always been total milk babies, which is why I ironically somewhat agree with you; you should have a sugar tap giving you unlimited free entertainment; it keeps you where you belong, out of my way. Stay in mommy's basement and download your anime, sweethearts. Don't come outside in that scary painful sunlight and engage life. In the wise words of Brother Zappa, "You ain't really made for being out in the street; ain't much hope for a fool like you, 'cause if you play the game you will get beat."




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[info]hypno_jango
2005-10-15 07:12 am UTC (link)
Awww... You beat me to this.

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rachelthedemon
2005-10-15 07:19 am UTC (link)
The people you're talking about arguing with are a new breed of "fan" (although I hesitate to call them that) out there right now, created mostly by the proliferation of anime via bittorrent. They make a number of wacky claims, like anime companies are all evil behemoths who exist solely to drain your wallet, that all commercial translations are incorrect, that dubs "butcher" the spirit of the original Japanese version and that anime is created under some bizarre bohemian ideal that it should be totally free and readily available to anyone who wants it. Their general attitude is that anyone trying to make a buck off of anime is an evil capitalist pig-dog who disrespect and mutilate their untouchable sacred artwork.

As much as I hate to admit it, Answerman does have a point in that. I've run into way too many people with exactly that kind of attitude, nevermind that they don't know a stitch of Japanese themselves and throw a shrieking bitchfit worthy of Foamy the Squirrel whenever anything gets licensed.

Yes, FMA and Naruto fandoms, I'm looking at you.

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[info]iczer6
2005-10-15 07:31 am UTC (link)
I wasn't attacking the genre and the reader wasn't asking for shows like Maria-sama ga Miteru, she was asking about stuff like Level-C where it's explicit sex. Read the letter. She wasn't asking for love stories.

Cause any series where the characters have sex means they aren't in love. You don't have *sex* with people you *love*. Where are people getting this idea?

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[info]yaoiko
2005-10-15 07:33 am UTC (link)
*twitch* Waaait, she's saying KKM is graphic? WTF is this guy on? I WISH we could get kissing scenes in KKM! Wedding night! YuurixWolfram! Wedding night!

~Emi

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(no subject) - [info]twoiskewl, 2005-10-15 07:31 pm UTC
And the other anime... - [info]crysiana, 2005-10-15 11:42 pm UTC
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[info]khym_chanur
2005-10-15 07:34 am UTC (link)
I can't decide if Kyo is being devilishly-smirky, or pissed off at being chibified and placed in a kitty-costume.

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[info]kasra
2005-10-15 07:37 am UTC (link)
For all that I agree with Answerman's sentiment this time, he sure is an asshole.

As for the yaoi question, his wife has stated on several occasions back when she was running the Mrs. Answerman column that she enjoys watching shounen-ai and I'm pretty sure the occasional yaoi. Would it have been so hard for him to ask her?

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[info]aerobot
2005-10-15 07:53 am UTC (link)
Wait, the Smurfs had gore, psychopathic villians, curses, young kids killing each other, and demon foxes in it just like Naruto? Wow, I didn't see THOSE episodes!

Or maybe it was just a really stupid comparison.

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[info]semtex
2005-10-15 08:21 am UTC (link)
lol narutards.
lol 1337 anime fans.
Just...LOL.

I think there should be a new rule when someone brings up communism VS zomg capitalists pigs much like Godrey's Law (that's the Nazi one, amirite?) - that is, if there isn't already.

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That was it... - [info]semtex, 2005-10-16 12:28 am UTC
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[info]annepackrat
2005-10-15 08:22 am UTC (link)
Zac's just probably tired of answering letters from stupid fangirls. He's been working at Anime Insider answering letters after all. A lot of the letters are just various kawaiibishonenyaoifangirls talking about who's hotter in Yu Yu Hakusho or gushing about Inu Yasha.

I agree with Zac. Fansubs are meant for titles that aren't going to be picked up and released uncut over here. Fansubbing the latest Hellsing? Uh, yeah, that's gonna be picked up idiot. Why don't you try fansubbing something older that won't be?

And internet fansubs produced this gem:

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Fucking AOL ate my comment!
[info]shun_mcdaddy
2005-10-15 08:23 am UTC (link)
In summary of what I said:

"Huh?! Kyou Kara Maou isn't even yaoi!"(Some fans wish it was though)

-And-

"Most of the yaoi sent overhere isn't even that hardcore compared to the tiny bits like SensetiPgraph(I shortened it) and Level C, thank you very much! All I know is that sometimes, Mr. Answerman can be an complete dumbfuck asswipe who spouts unneeded bullshit that noone asked for."

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Re: Fucking AOL ate my comment! - [info]iczer6, 2005-10-16 01:56 am UTC

[info]darkchan
2005-10-15 08:50 am UTC (link)
... Really I can't say anything. I grew up in places where you could buy any movie off the streets days after it came to the theaters, and Pueblos Rosados was just down the road (aka a place where you could buy tons of pirated stuff). How I miss you, Peru. I guess that my morals are just off-wack enough that I don't even care. I suppose it's also terribly ironic that I failed my ethics class last year.

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[info]chikane
2005-10-15 09:29 am UTC (link)
Why is it so hard for guys to answer anything related to yaoi? Gee.

Sure, this answerman guy is partially right in the piracy thing(sorry - "Real anime fans support the shows they love by buying the legitimate DVD release. Period." <- this IS true), but he is right in a completely...uncalled for way. It's like being right like this:

"1+1 is 2! LOL! YOU ALL SUCK! HAHAHA! I KNOW U DON'T! ROFL!"

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[info]ereshkigal
2005-10-15 09:43 am UTC (link)
New breed? What's new about it? I do believe I recall some of the same shit going on back in the 90s...

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(no subject) - [info]miharu, 2005-10-15 05:01 pm UTC

[info]eris
2005-10-15 10:29 am UTC (link)
I'm wondering why people feel the need to justify downloading anime with various bullshit answers rather than just admit that they like getting stuff for free.

Just for the record, I enjoy downloading anime for free, and I don't give a rat's ass if it's illegal or if it's hurting the industry. :D

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... - [info]made_by_kali, 2005-10-15 08:19 pm UTC
... - [info]sneakykitty, 2005-10-15 08:38 pm UTC
... - [info]caoilte, 2005-10-16 08:53 am UTC
... - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-10-16 09:33 am UTC
... - [info]sneakykitty, 2005-10-16 07:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arymabeth, 2005-10-15 10:17 pm UTC
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[info]pokecheck
2005-10-15 10:54 am UTC (link)
Hmmm. Considering the episodes I wanna have on DVD won't be out in the SACRED LISCENCED DVD'S until plenty years from now, there's a good chance I might've moved on to another fandom.

Therefore BT it is! I figure I buy enough liscenced toys 'n' shit so I'm not depriving some poor liscencer out of his porn</strike> lunch money.

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(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2005-10-15 10:55 am UTC
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[info]pokecheck
2005-10-15 10:56 am UTC (link)
P.S. Where do you get the plushie in your icon?

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(no subject) - [info]arekuru, 2005-10-15 11:10 am UTC
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[info]adora_spintriae
2005-10-15 12:02 pm UTC (link)
Real anime fans support the shows they love by buying the legitimate DVD release. Period.

Scotsman. D'aw, ain't that cute? Mr Answer</s>dick</s>man thinks we all have mountains of cash flowing out our arses to keep shelling out for the ridiculous Asutralian DVD prices of a long-running series IF we are lucky enough for Madman to pick it up in the first place and release it here. Haha, yeah, right, sure. I guess I'm not a "real" anime fan because I don't want to buy an ugly-ass DVD with a title like "Descendents of Darkness" or "Burst Angel" (that just sounds so fucking wrong) when I know what that shit's really called. However, yay for Kino's Journey finally being released.

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(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2005-10-15 12:40 pm UTC
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... - rachelthedemon, 2005-10-16 01:49 am UTC
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[info]chaimonkey
2005-10-15 12:15 pm UTC (link)
I only buy the DVD if it's subbed in English and plays in my American DVD player.

Which is fuckin' rare.

Frankly, I've stopped watching anime of late since it seems to have been flooded with cheap Nartuard-style action. I'll stick to the classics of Lain, Tenchi Muyo, Cowboy BeBop and the like, thanks.

Pfft.

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Tenchi Question - [info]stinksap, 2005-10-15 02:08 pm UTC
Re: Tenchi Question - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-10-15 03:05 pm UTC
Re: Tenchi Question - [info]stinksap, 2005-10-15 03:11 pm UTC
Re: Tenchi Question - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-10-15 03:18 pm UTC
... - [info]stinksap, 2005-10-15 04:27 pm UTC
Re: Tenchi Question - [info]iczer6, 2005-10-16 01:59 am UTC
Re: Tenchi Question - [info]dommichan, 2005-10-16 04:18 am UTC
Re: Tenchi Question - [info]pipssister, 2005-10-16 10:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]redjackcash, 2005-10-16 06:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]taktuk, 2005-10-21 03:33 pm UTC

[info]brick_me
2005-10-15 12:32 pm UTC (link)
Wow, that's so weird -- I read all the columns he's written since he allegedly came back, and not only do I not find him offensive at all, I think he's pretty damn funny.

Maybe that explains why I left the anime fandom. We were introduced, but we seemed to ... clash. (Well, that and the fact that the manga is always better. HAH!)

I can't vouch for whether he's a complete asshat elsewhere on the internet, though. Maybe.

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(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2005-10-15 12:53 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]made_by_kali, 2005-10-15 01:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dark_puck, 2005-10-15 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]made_by_kali, 2005-10-15 08:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-10-16 08:58 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]elektra3, 2005-10-15 11:47 pm UTC

[info]yosei
2005-10-15 02:30 pm UTC (link)
*eyes stack of superold!fansubs on VHS* Yeah. Because bittorent is totally the thing that let people get stuff illegally. Suure.

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(no subject) - [info]miharu, 2005-10-15 05:03 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]moonlitsiren, 2005-10-15 08:04 pm UTC

[info]terra
2005-10-15 04:31 pm UTC (link)
like anime companies are all evil behemoths who exist solely to drain your wallet, that all commercial translations are incorrect, that dubs "butcher" the spirit of the original Japanese version and that anime is created under some bizarre bohemian ideal that it should be totally free and readily available to anyone who wants it.

This is NEW? I guess I hallucinated my entire college anime club, then. Does that mean I'm psychic, since I foresaw behavior that only started with Bittorrent?

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(no subject) - [info]annepackrat, 2005-10-15 05:59 pm UTC

[info]senor_pinata
2005-10-15 04:38 pm UTC (link)
I'm pretty sure this is the guy who used to answer letters for Anime Insider. He had a major rage-on for the internet then, too.

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[info]octopedingenue
2005-10-15 06:26 pm UTC (link)
I have spent so much money on licensed "Inuyasha" DVDs* that any residual guilt I have over downloading fansubs has been reduced to a tiny, squeaking voice in a jar in the back of my head. I want to be able to buy my favorite stuff on DVD, because I like watching stuff on my big TV instead of my tiny computer screen. But if an anime company doesn't care enough about its product to put some effort into its DVD releases, why should I reward them by buying their DVDs and encouraging them to do it again? The best anime purchase I've ever made has been the Funimation "Fruits Basket" DVDs--6-7 episodes per disc, great sub AND dub, great picture/sound quality, great extras, pretty cover art, and only $80 for the entire series. I'd kill for the same wealth of features on the FMA DVDs Funi's now releasing.


(* Spent before I grew a BRAIN: $20 per disc, 3 episodes per disc with minimal extras, 167 episodes + 4 movies--that's approximately $1193.33 for "Inuyasha", unless you buy the season boxsets, which are $100 apiece, have minimal extras, and are released at approximately the speed of light reversed, because the 3-episode-DVDs are so much more profitable. CookieJarVideo.com imports, here I come!)

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(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2005-10-15 06:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonlitsiren, 2005-10-15 08:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2005-10-15 10:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonlitsiren, 2005-10-16 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]solar_type_star, 2005-10-19 12:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]octopedingenue, 2005-10-19 01:43 am UTC

[info]kylenne
2005-10-15 06:31 pm UTC (link)
You know what? I don't think I'm entitled to unlimited free anime. I'm not a pirate for any kind of wanky "stick it to the Man" reasons, I'm a pirate because I can't afford this shit. Especially with the misfortune of being a fan of a lot of really long series. *cough*Kenshin*cough* The only stuff I really buy is from Central Park Media, I feel guilty stealing from them because I'm an Utena cosplayer (I've done Anthy off and on for about five years), and those guys are always so nice to me at cons. They even gave me a discount on their online manga store recently. Yeah I know, I'm a hypocrite and I have fucked up ethics. Whatever.

Arr, motherfucker.

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(no subject) - [info]kasra, 2005-10-15 08:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2005-10-15 10:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sneakykitty, 2005-10-15 08:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2005-10-15 10:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - jenova, 2005-10-15 09:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2005-10-15 10:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sententia, 2005-10-16 01:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stickmarionette, 2005-10-16 09:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kylenne, 2005-10-16 05:19 pm UTC

[info]elektra3
2005-10-15 11:52 pm UTC (link)
She was pretty clearly asking me for "shows in which more than just meaningful glances are exchanged". She wanted porn. ... I wasn't attacking the genre and the reader wasn't asking for shows like Maria-sama ga Miteru, she was asking about stuff like Level-C where it's explicit sex. Read the letter. She wasn't asking for love stories.

Has this guy ever seen Kyou Kara Maou? I'm twenty-seven episodes in and it hasn't even gotten close to Buttsexland. Hell, I'll be glad if Yuuri and Wolfram even kiss at some point.

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(no subject) - [info]lanjelin, 2005-10-16 12:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zarla, 2005-10-16 02:21 am UTC
it's yaoi in my DREAMS! - [info]octopedingenue, 2005-10-16 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yaoiko, 2005-10-17 12:09 am UTC


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