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ninja_stripper ([info]ninja_stripper) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-10-22 14:54:00


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Fanfic Rants: it's like Wanks R Us in a way

So over at fanficrants, a post is made by muses_consume asking about the trend of slash.

This isn't exactly wanky in and of itself, no the wank starts in the form of "People feel the need to make everything slash/yaoi. They just aren't happy with conventional relationships anymore. Everyone MUST be gay, because gay is "in". I <3 gay people, but not wannabe gay people." from shiagurl.

Felinephoenix Takes offense.


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jenova
2005-10-22 09:09 pm UTC (link)
It wouldn't be a week on fanficrants without the same stupid slash argument over and over again.

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[info]nuclear_wessel
2005-10-22 09:13 pm UTC (link)
Why does everyone forget the hermaphrodites? Or the robot pr0n?

All the gay boys get the attention. My life is incomplete.

But yanno, fanfic is just masturbation. What ever gets your jollies.

- NW

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[info]ninjachimp
2005-10-22 09:37 pm UTC (link)
~What ever gets your jollies.~

Yup, agreed. My only problem is getting 30 chapters into a fic and finding out its slash the hard way, otherwise * shrug *

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(Anonymous)
2005-10-22 11:23 pm UTC (link)
Oh good, someone else remembered the mech smut. Yum, androgynes...

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[info]onetrickpony
2005-10-23 01:43 am UTC (link)
Dude. Best username EVER.

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[info]yaoiko
2005-10-23 05:26 am UTC (link)
Well, I like robotic gay boys. Mmmm, Rockman porn.

~Emi

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[info]dottiness
2005-10-22 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Who saw it coming.

Seriously.

(Come on, it's fanficrants. It wouldn't be the same community without all these inane pairing arguments.)

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[info]nuclear_wessel
2005-10-22 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Like a Meteor from the sky.

- NW

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[info]twoiskewl
2005-10-22 10:36 pm UTC (link)
Saw it when it was posted, laughed, and started the F_wank countdown, baby.

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[info]m_butterfly
2005-10-24 10:59 am UTC (link)
Oh yeah. I was kind of hoping it might not, because I sort of wanted to make a comment to the OP about Crane's pretty mouth, but as soon as I looked at the comments there I realized no, the wank cometh. Thus, my comment shall have to go unsaid, because I don't feel like dealing with hordes of fangirls attracted by the wank who would try to insist their love for Crane was pure and true, and nothing to do with the fact that the actor playing him is so pretty he looks like he should be getting his nails done.

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[info]annaham
2005-10-22 10:08 pm UTC (link)
I <3 gay people, but not wannabe gay people.

Wait, so my writing slash means that I, deep down in the dark recesses of my soul, want to be a gay man?

*confused*

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[info]froda_baggins
2005-10-22 10:27 pm UTC (link)
DUH. Didn't you get the memo?

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[info]platedlizard
2005-10-22 11:21 pm UTC (link)
I don't like slash, being more of a het-ficcer myself, and you know what? I deal with it by not reading it. If a story I am reading turns out, after five chapters, to be slash (it isn't always obvious) then I hit the back button and find something else to read. If there isn't enough het in that fandom, then I go write some. And the fact that some people like slash doesn't bother me. It's not that hard, people! Sheesh.

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tourette
2005-10-22 11:26 pm UTC (link)
So if gay people write slash, that means that they're "wannabe gay people"? Wait, what?

*is bewildered*

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[info]smo
2005-10-22 11:29 pm UTC (link)
[info]reunion wins at life for this comment about "wannabe gay people:"

The fake ones get their pink triangles at Hot Topic?

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[info]notjo
2005-10-22 11:46 pm UTC (link)
I will admit, I do get a bit frustrated when not only are most characters gay.

But that's only because I like my slash fiction to include people coming to terms with their sexual identity. This may be because I'm conflicted, though. That's why I like copperbadge's stuff, especially Cartographer's Craft. The whole storyline where Harry goes "Oh my god... I like boys! No wonder the girls never did anything for me!" really cranks my turn, as it were.

But then... my opinions tend to be my problem, and I don't feel the need to rant against everyone who writes differently.

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[info]chikane
2005-10-22 11:59 pm UTC (link)
Since some of my most favorite series have gay(or rather lesbian, mind you) main characters, this leaves me with quite a problem.

How can I write fanfic about these without them, uh, being about homosexual relationships since, well, the characters I care mostly about -are- homosexual?

Would I have to make them straight? If so, wouldn't I be writing slash of slash? What happens if you slash slash? Is it a cross then oO?

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[info]sparkle_bitch
2005-10-23 01:06 am UTC (link)
shiagirl used to be on my flist


*is ashamed*

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[info]waterfront
2005-10-23 01:09 am UTC (link)
Somebody needs a refill on their chill pills.

(Randomly, I love the phrasing that tends to come up with this sort of junk: "make everything slash." OH SHIT GUYS, I MADE RENO AND RUDE GAY. D:)

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[info]felinephoenix
2005-10-23 02:28 am UTC (link)
Yay me, I is wanker.

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[info]mochibuni
2005-10-23 03:13 am UTC (link)
Wow, that's funny...I didn't get the memo that being gay isn't a fad.

If I were a gay person, I'd be pissed that so many are mocking my lifestyle and giving gay people less credibility to those they are trying to seek acknowledgement from. Just because wannabe gay = more recognition (including the bad. I've seen far more bad rec than good) for the gay community doesn't mean it is an entirely good idea to ignore that it is happening.

But what do I know, I'm a hetero and wannabe gay people piss me off anyway. I think this kind of emulation is one of the highest forms of disrespect.

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[info]linzee
2005-10-23 07:40 am UTC (link)
Well, on one hand I can actually see the OP's point. I'm a huge slash fan, but if I start reading a Clark/Lex fic and all of the sudden not only are Clark and Lex boyfriends, but Chloe and Lana are acting on their passions and Lois is a raging bull-dyke? I'm probably going to click 'back' because it affects my ability to become absorbed in the story. I certianly see the chemistry between Lex and Clark and find it sexual (I wouldn't be reading if I didn't, right?) but if everyone Wakes Up Gay then the story becomes unintentionally hillarious, and stops baring any resemblance to the show I watch(ed).

On the other hand, while slash has certianly become more popular in the last few years, I would hardly call gay "IN." I love the assertion that slash = wanting to be trendy. Because gee golly whiz, no girl could ever, I don't know, get off on the idea of two pretty boys together. Nope. We're all cashing in on a fad.

Linzee

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(no subject) - [info]chikane, 2005-10-23 08:27 am UTC
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hm. - [info]baskinglizard, 2005-10-23 04:17 pm UTC
Re: hm. - [info]bastet, 2005-10-23 04:36 pm UTC

dearladydisdain
2005-10-23 03:28 pm UTC (link)
But as a gay person, heterosexual romance is a) squicky and b) unrealistic.

...what the fuck?

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(no subject) - [info]embyquinn, 2005-11-03 08:17 am UTC

redwarrior
2005-10-23 08:19 pm UTC (link)
I guess I must be the weird one in fandom. I write pairings based on character compatibility, and not that the two of them have s a certain arrangement of genitalia.

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[info]embyquinn
2005-11-03 08:13 am UTC (link)
Okay, so I get tired of every fandom being overwhelmed by OMG!slash between two main male characters, even if one or both of those characters are canonically, definitively, unquestionably heterosexual in preference. If I don't want to read it, that's what the BACK button is for.

(Although slogging through 192095782034 stories in a Highlander fic archive to try and find one single, solitary, honest-to-canon Mac/Amanda pairing amongst all the Mac/Methos, Mac/Richie, Mac/Joe and Mac/Thunderbird slashfic does get tiring after a while...)

What good does ranting do, except for an evening's amusement for the onlookers?

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