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Qem ([info]qem_chibati) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-10-31 16:11:00


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Current mood:Frivolous
Current music:Talking

Because shipping is just too terrifying a concept for halloween.
Fiction Alley Park set up a new banner to help celebrate halloween and get into the festive season.

The original banner can be seen, here.

In recognition of the banner, LadyEowyn starts a thread, located here giving praise to the art.

Friendly comments saying that the artist is Mudblood428, that the artwork is beautiful, pink doesn't suit Ginny, what is George upto etc.

*insert eeiry music here*

Of course it couldn't last long.

star22 comes in to make a complaint (Yes she is a H/Hr fan.)

I do love the idea of a Haloween banner, and it is well done, but it is rather ship specific. It really isn't fair to those who come here who don't ship those ships. Yes, they are canon, but still there are a lot of people here who don't like them. Her reasons are that FA should of chosen a more netural picture, since at least the part with Harry and Ginny seems pretty shippy to me. And that while Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione might be canon, that this is a fanon site though, not a canon-only one and home to people who ship a varity of things, that the banner is difficult to ignore depicting relationships that aren't all liked at FA and that the The banner really should be ship-neutral so it can accomidate all members.



Sandy points out

Its its specific of any ship its friendship. Its not like it shows Harry and Ginny in a clinch snogging, or Ron and Hermione fixin' to get their mutual freak on! Besides, its just a piece of art that'll be there for a couple of days, for pity's sake! Does everything have to be turned into a shipping issue? Can't you just enjoy the art for its own sake


Various other members wish to know why its so unfair to have mild ships in the banner when there are obvious shipping quotes located on the main page, and points out that its more about a group of friends in goofy custums and its all canon right? That the picture was picked for its fun nature, that the site wouldn't esist if there wasn't canon. With Star arguing back that all of the mods have been going on about inter-ship unity and thats all good, but doesn't mean canon only - that the picture doesn't promote neutrality.

Heidi one of the admins for the site, says

Star, here's my read on it: Harry is completely ignoring Ginny and Hermione looks like she's only tugging on Ron so the pumpkin doesn't drop on his head. I didn't ask for Mudblood428 to let us use it because of anything shippy in it, and given the fact that Draco is in it, I can't see it at *all* being a realistic representation of Halloween In Harry's Seventh Year, so I don't see it as trying to predict Book Seven halloween, especially as there's been no occasion where the characters have dressed up for the holiday. So no, the admins aren't trying to send any sort of a signal - we just thought it would make cute icons, and then when our original top of the park art was revealed to be damaged, we popped it up there for 48 hours or so, because it's cute

Effectively: Its only shippy if you make it shippy.

Smilie117 another H/Hr and co designer of the layout saying that it was only temporary and that there's a new banner up now. Which incidently looks like this

Many members are unhappy.

* I preferred the 'big banner' pic. Whole, the images makes sense and is pretty. Chopped up, it looks all chaotic and messy - and doesn't reveal the bigger image

* Every single joke that was in the picture has now been removed. Is this the sort of lameness we have to put up with to avoid hurting people's feelings? (Not true, another clearly blatant attack to the Harmonians Okay, there is one good thing about the new and improved politcally correct banner, you can see Ron's "My name is Emerson" sticker better. & Ron is wearing a mugglenet t-shirt.)

* Not everything is about shipping, and I wish it didn't get turned into it. We Aberforth/Goat, Grey Lady/Nearly-Headless Nick, and Dobby/Winky shippers are always slighted.

* And this, is yet again, another clear example how canon ships are strongly held back from any sort of recognition or "celebration" other than on the ONE thread in SCUSA dedicated to that ship. Forget the fact that the picture was just a picture and wasn't showing Sunlit Days worth of snogging or anything! But... Omgithastwocanoncouples! Aaaaarrrggghhh! I am being mocked! This is unfair! PLEASE!! SO, this is how things are handled? A few people whine about how they don't like it b/c canon couples just happen to be in the art, in addition to Draco, Neville, Luna, and the twins and *boom* it's removed??? Hmm, I can think of other offending things that took DAYS to get changed (and some things didn't even change).

* And for the record, I didn't think the picture was shippy at all. I thought she positioned the characters well -- everyone was IC and such, and it made me smile. Now, it just looks like a series of headshots. Good for icons, no good for a banner.

*I hate it when shippiness gets in the way of good art.

Currently still going

ETA: Old banner is back. o_O;

Also the reason why the banner was changed is explained here in a copy paste from Theregoesmygun.




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[info]skewed_tartan
2005-10-31 07:05 am UTC (link)
Since when is shipping on par with political correctness?

"You can't show that ship! Its insensitive! It is an insult to my beleifs, and my ancestors! Yes my grandparents ship H/Hr too!"

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(no subject) - [info]qem_chibati, 2005-10-31 07:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gweniveeve, 2005-10-31 10:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ravenclaw_devi, 2005-11-01 12:45 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-10-31 07:07 am UTC (link)
I must agree with the person who complained about the change. The full banner is rather cute. XD But ah well, who can fight against the harmonian's TWOO WUV?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-31 12:46 pm UTC

[info]crazedchipmunk
2005-10-31 07:12 am UTC (link)
Trekkie Luna might be the cutest thing ever. *wanders off, forgetting about shiptards*

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*squee* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-10-31 07:30 am UTC
Re: *squee* - [info]skarrow, 2005-10-31 07:54 am UTC
Re: *squee* - [info]prettyveela, 2005-10-31 08:14 am UTC
Re: *squee* - [info]drakyndra, 2005-10-31 02:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]squeakytoy, 2005-10-31 10:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rachel_pi, 2005-10-31 02:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ravenclaw_devi, 2005-11-01 12:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]calliope14, 2005-11-01 02:25 am UTC

[info]eilan
2005-10-31 07:12 am UTC (link)
*wants the full banner back*

Dear non-canon shippers,

just get off the internet for two days. Or try not to wank for two days. Or don't look for two days.

Can't be that hard...

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(no subject) - [info]gun, 2005-10-31 07:13 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-31 07:21 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2005-10-31 07:22 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-31 07:25 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2005-10-31 08:09 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-31 08:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2005-10-31 08:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2005-10-31 08:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]starrysummer, 2005-10-31 07:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2005-10-31 09:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ella_w, 2005-11-01 02:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2005-11-01 03:06 am UTC
(no subject) - chief, 2005-11-02 01:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2005-10-31 07:47 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-31 07:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dreamworld, 2005-10-31 03:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-31 05:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-10-31 03:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2005-10-31 05:25 pm UTC

[info]gun
2005-10-31 07:12 am UTC (link)
My heart is broken that I no longer have the love of George/Fred and Draco.

THEIRONONELEVELTHINGISSOCANON.

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[info]so_long42
2005-10-31 07:16 am UTC (link)
So THAT'S why it was changed?

*head desk*

Some people just REALLY need to get over themselved. OH NOES, HARRY'S ARM IS AROUND GINNY! YOU ARE ATTCAKING MY BELIFIES! FORCING YOUR SHIP UPON ME! I PROTEST UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT! FREEDOM OF RELIGION!

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(no subject) - [info]heidi, 2005-10-31 12:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - chief, 2005-10-31 12:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]heidi, 2005-10-31 01:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-10-31 01:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fiatincantatum, 2005-10-31 08:55 pm UTC

[info]rogue
2005-10-31 07:17 am UTC (link)
Oh my god, it's canon. Shut the fuck up.

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2005-10-31 07:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gun, 2005-10-31 07:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2005-10-31 07:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2005-10-31 04:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabsy, 2005-11-01 06:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-31 05:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nathalie, 2005-10-31 08:46 pm UTC

[info]jail
2005-10-31 07:19 am UTC (link)
Holy crap, that's ugly.

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[info]sabinelagrande
2005-10-31 07:21 am UTC (link)
Fuck shipping, the chopped up one is just fugly.

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(no subject) - [info]tiki, 2005-10-31 07:57 am UTC

[info]shun_mcdaddy
2005-10-31 07:21 am UTC (link)
Yes, and if this were a canon-only site, that would be fine. However, this is a canon and fanon site, and it is home to people who ship many different things. Thus, it isn't really fair to have a banner up at the head of the site, one that is hard to ignore, depicting relationships that may not be liked by ever member here. The banner really should be ship-neutral so it can accomidate all members.

Where's the editing patrol? I repeat, were is the fucking editing patrol??

We got a 409er violation of unedited offensive shipping content!

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[info]chopperbetty
2005-10-31 07:23 am UTC (link)
The chopped up picture makes absolutely no sense. There are limbs everywhere!

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[info]gun
2005-10-31 07:23 am UTC (link)
Harmonians: they're like Michael Newdow in a way.

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(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2005-10-31 01:50 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]gun, 2005-10-31 08:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2005-10-31 09:43 pm UTC

[info]prettyveela
2005-10-31 07:25 am UTC (link)
Ok I haven't really been on FA lately but..

The brand new chopped up picture is ugly as hell, it completely takes away from the beauty of mudblood's orignal art pic. If you look at the first one, it's full of jokes and other cute things that you can't see now.

Please don't ever let me be so consumed by a ship that I can't OMGBEAR to look at a freaking picture with several characters together. Grow the fuck up people. :\

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-01 01:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-01 05:51 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-01 06:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-01 01:28 pm UTC
Some value canon! Others value twu luv! - (Anonymous), 2005-11-02 01:28 am UTC
Re: Some value canon! Others value twu luv! - (Anonymous), 2005-11-02 04:43 am UTC
Re: Some value canon! Others value twu luv! - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-02 01:36 pm UTC
Re: Some value canon! Others value twu luv! - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-02 01:34 pm UTC

[info]rollergirl69
2005-10-31 07:29 am UTC (link)
*silently thanks God she doesn't follow the HP fandom*

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(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-10-31 01:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]here4tehwank, 2005-10-31 06:24 pm UTC

[info]out_bottle
2005-10-31 07:31 am UTC (link)
And this is why I read the books, see the movies if I have time, and avoid the fandom completely. It's all too dumb, and I have pOrn to read.

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(no subject) - [info]miharu, 2005-10-31 04:34 pm UTC

[info]tardis
2005-10-31 07:33 am UTC (link)
Yes, but the mods lately have been going on about this whole inter-ship unity thing. That is all fine and good, but inter-ship unity doesn't mean canon-ships only. I would think that they would want to promote what they are trying to say by remaining neutral. This picture doesn't help that at all.

Harry Potter fan-art, compromising inter-ship unity one hug at a time.

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(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-10-31 07:39 am UTC

[info]rollergirl69
2005-10-31 07:37 am UTC (link)
Holy Crap I just looked at the butched fanart. It looks hideous at this stage I feel sorry for the fanartist having his or hers work turned to crap like that. T.T

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(no subject) - [info]agent_hyatt, 2005-10-31 07:43 am UTC
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[info]tangentialone
2005-10-31 07:38 am UTC (link)
No one complained that Draco is clearly checking out Ron's butt? Cause that's, liek, offensive and oppressive to anyone who doesn't like slash.

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(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-10-31 07:45 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rollergirl69, 2005-10-31 07:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-10-31 07:51 am UTC
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[info]dawnswalker
2005-10-31 07:42 am UTC (link)
I notice that neither version of the banner has Squid/Hogwarts!!

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(no subject) - [info]the_squid, 2005-10-31 09:48 am UTC
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[info]tangentialone
2005-10-31 07:42 am UTC (link)
...Also, I would like to point out that in the new one, Harry has his arm around Fred/George, while George/Fred looks on approvingly. And Ginny is gazing admiringly at Hermione. So the new one is, in fact, just as shippy! :D Only now it favors the non-canon.

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(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-10-31 07:44 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]skewed_tartan, 2005-10-31 08:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-10-31 08:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-10-31 01:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]theamazingrando, 2005-10-31 03:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-10-31 06:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2005-10-31 01:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2005-10-31 05:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2005-10-31 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]daylyn, 2005-10-31 10:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2005-11-01 01:20 am UTC

[info]skarch86
2005-10-31 07:44 am UTC (link)
Okay, this is just ridiculous. I don't ship Harry/Ginny. We don't even celebrate Halloween in my country. But the original banner was incredibly cute and funny and I loved it. The new version is nowhere near as cool as that one.

What. The. Shit?

So if I cry my eyes out on FAP, I'll get a picture of Harry and Draco shagging against the wall?

On another note, star22 is a timing wankbomb. Every time I see a post of hers on FAP, I scroll down very very quickly. She makes my fingers twitch and I don't want to explode into a CAPSLOCK fit of rage in that forum.

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(no subject) - [info]thecheese, 2005-10-31 10:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-01 04:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ella_w, 2005-11-01 04:42 am UTC
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[info]footsie
2005-10-31 07:45 am UTC (link)
"Oh my Gawd! I can't believe they caved in and cut up that poor artist's work like that just to appease rabid shippers! It's just like censorship: give them an inch, then they'll ask for more, and soon they'll be the ones who have all power over what can be shipped, and they'll be locking J. K. Rowling in a concentration camp for heresy! It's just like Niemoller said!"

...sorry. I just thought that the non-Harry-Hermione shippers' side needed some batshit, and Godwin needed some kicking around. Back to the shippers at hand...

Fucking Waaah!

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-01 06:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]qem_chibati, 2005-11-01 07:54 am UTC
(no subject) - chief, 2005-11-02 01:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2005-11-02 09:17 pm UTC

[info]pipedream____
2005-10-31 07:46 am UTC (link)
It's a Halloween Banner. Wouldn't it be down in a few days, at best?

I'm surprised (marginally) that some people are so crazy in this fandom that they can't handle it being on the site for such a short duration.

Poor artist too, I would hate to see my work all chopped up like that.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-10-31 08:48 am UTC

[info]mintsui
2005-10-31 07:53 am UTC (link)
Wank. Over a halloween banner.

Oh HP fandom, you're the best.

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(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2005-10-31 05:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ravenclaw_devi, 2005-11-01 12:52 am UTC

[info]pokecheck
2005-10-31 07:53 am UTC (link)
Well, I guess the new pickie makes the dismemberment fetishists in the community happy.

I mean in the spirit of all-inclusiveness and all.

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(no subject) - [info]monkeywrench, 2005-10-31 11:36 am UTC
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