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LuLuLuLu ([info]lulinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-11-11 15:21:00


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When it rains it pours.

Hey, lookit here, we have more BPAL drama which I am lazily presenting.

This one has been simmering for a while, actually, but I've been too lazy to post it.

Brief summary: The BPAL forums have a subforum for the sharing of other scent-related companies. A post is made introducing Atropa's Cottage, a new perfume oil and other things company. All very well and good. People explore it. But drama is lurking!

Someone posts a photo of her newly arrived order, to show people what the stuff looks like. Uh oh. Turns out the logo being used looks suspiciously like a logo that was submitted to a BPAL logo contest. Oh, dear. (See pages 2 & 3 of the thread)

Ok, that get's cleared up but then we have more drama when someone says she thinks Atropa's Cottage is a just a mite too similar to BPAL and a very long discussion ensues. (Good stuff starts about Page 8)

This eventually peters out but today, for your friday fun, we have a new drama!

Atropa's Cottage released their Holiday LE scents. Uh oh. Someone notices some of them are rather similar to scents sold by a company called Sweetcakes. (Starts Page 16 and continues to 17)

Further discussion is held at the LJ community and someone most likely a sock puppet posts more comparisons showing the similarities between Atropa's Cottage and Sweetcakes blends.

And someone on the LJ community has just pointed out similarities between Atropa's Cottage and FeMaledictions, another scent company.

Do we have a case of plagiarism in perfume? Step aside, Harry Potter* fandom!

*Extra funny because Atropa's Cottage had a scent named Honeydukes and then it was mentioned that the Harry Potter people might not be so happy about that and the name was changed.



C/P'd just in case.

It's so great that all this can go on while I'm at work and can't really respond because I'm...working. So now that I'm home, here's all I have to say.

I will say this once, and only once, because boy am I tired. The past couple months have been SO not worth it. If this comes off as snarky, that's because it is.

I buy from 3 suppliers. I buy single notes and blends. If I buy blends, it's because I like them and they have the potential to be really nice. ALL BLENDS ARE ADDED TO. Obviously, I can't take away from them because the notes are already in there. When I state what notes are in a scent, I STATE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY IN THERE. I state them even though by adding to them, you may not be able to pick them up much anymore. I do this because some people have allergies and sensitivites and PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING ON THEIR SKIN.

I DO NOT "RE-PACKAGE" ANYTHING.
I HAVE RECIPES FOR EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING IS "HAND-BLENDED" IN THAT I HAVE TO MEASURE OUT ALL THE INGREDIENTS OF A SCENT AND BLEND THEM TOGETHER, FOLLOWING A RECIPE. Is this not what "hand blending" means?? If it's not, then I guess I'm just an idiot.

I'm tired of defending myself and explaining myself. I'm DONE defending myself and explaining myself.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/atropas_cottage/37458.html



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[info]hangingfire
2005-11-11 10:48 pm UTC (link)
I was wondering how long it would take for this to show up here. It's been dragging out for so long, I thought it might have intimidated everyone into just avoiding it.

Me, I'm staying out of it and watching warily, because with the latest turn of the screw here, I anticipate big 'splody before long.

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[info]lulinda
2005-11-11 10:51 pm UTC (link)
This one has been entertaining me for a good couple of weeks now. I think the logo bit is the most damning of all, really.

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(no subject) - [info]hangingfire, 2005-11-12 12:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 03:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hangingfire, 2005-11-12 06:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 06:34 am UTC
(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2005-11-12 07:56 am UTC

[info]lessis
2005-11-11 10:52 pm UTC (link)
This makes me glad I keep my scented oils to one crystal-wrap necklace Crystal Mountain at ren fest every year. Yummy scents, drama free.

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[info]wanktastic
2005-11-11 10:53 pm UTC (link)
It's interesting to note that the Atropa's Cottage website went down shortly after people started pointing out the similarities between the AC Yule scents and the Sweetcakes scents. Could be coincidental but the timing is suspect.

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[info]wanktastic
2005-11-11 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Added: The link to AC you put in your wank seems to be fine, but the www.atropascottage.com address is no longer working.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2005-11-11 10:55 pm UTC (link)
...Is there some sort of rule that you can't mix a similar scent to one somebody else sells? I thought that was called "competition".

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(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-11 10:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2005-11-11 11:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2005-11-11 11:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2005-11-11 11:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wanktastic, 2005-11-11 11:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-11 11:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-11 11:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]morgothik, 2005-11-12 06:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]morgothik, 2005-11-13 06:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2005-11-13 10:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]morgothik, 2005-11-13 11:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-13 11:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]morgothik, 2005-11-13 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-13 11:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2005-11-14 12:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]morgothik, 2005-11-14 12:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2005-11-14 02:04 am UTC

[info]kijikun
2005-11-11 11:04 pm UTC (link)
The scents might be simlair but unless their passing off the perfume of another companies as their own....I might sure if I see the problem.

Oh well.


*waits for her order from BPAL to arrive and blames FW for her even buying it*

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[info]theladyfeylene
2005-11-11 11:23 pm UTC (link)
Basically, this chick is passing off the oils all as hand blended by her, and is copying descriptions from other websites.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2005-11-11 11:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]theladyfeylene, 2005-11-11 11:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-11 11:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - thefirebottle, 2005-11-12 02:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 02:59 am UTC
(no subject) - thefirebottle, 2005-11-12 03:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 03:03 am UTC
(no subject) - thefirebottle, 2005-11-12 03:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-12 03:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 03:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-12 03:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 03:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-12 03:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 03:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dwarfjen, 2005-11-12 12:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-11-13 07:50 pm UTC

[info]bangoskank
2005-11-11 11:41 pm UTC (link)
It's f_w that I am addicted, as well.

Not that's necessarily a bad thing.

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(no subject) - [info]bangoskank, 2005-11-11 11:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2005-11-12 01:27 am UTC

[info]sewingmyfish
2005-11-11 11:28 pm UTC (link)
The owner of Atropa's Cottage just had a freak-out about the accusations on the community.

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[info]lulinda
2005-11-11 11:31 pm UTC (link)
Been waiting for that. Thanks! *adds to post*

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(no subject) - [info]sewingmyfish, 2005-11-11 11:36 pm UTC

[info]snacky
2005-11-11 11:51 pm UTC (link)
Heh, so "handblended" means, "I buy some blends and throw something else into them or maybe just put them into another bottle", huh? Good to know.

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[info]lulinda
2005-11-11 11:53 pm UTC (link)
Maybe she wrote the notes down in a notebook and forgot where she got them from. ;)

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(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2005-11-11 11:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hugsnkisses, 2005-11-13 06:28 pm UTC

[info]bangoskank
2005-11-12 12:05 am UTC (link)
Error
Journal has been deleted. If you are atropas_cottage, you have a period of 30 days to decide to undelete your journal.


Ruh-oh! As I was reading, too.

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[info]lulinda
2005-11-12 01:18 am UTC (link)
And people don't think this is a fandom!

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[info]platedlizard
2005-11-12 02:03 am UTC (link)
Because NOTHING proves your point as well as a BAALEETED journal!

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(no subject) - [info]theladyfeylene, 2005-11-12 02:28 am UTC

[info]txvoodoo
2005-11-12 03:16 am UTC (link)
Lordy lordy, look at all the LOTR proper names used as product names on Atropo's Cottage oils!

You can't pay for wank like this - obviously an LOTR fan sniffed too much BPAL and thought she'd do some trademark violation and earn a profit :D

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 03:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]txvoodoo, 2005-11-12 04:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 04:46 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-12 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-12 04:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-12 04:45 am UTC
I imagine she didn't start the negotations with "Tolkien" herself... - [info]hugsnkisses, 2005-11-13 06:29 pm UTC
Don't be too sure. - [info]phosfate, 2005-11-14 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaosinaskirt, 2005-11-19 06:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]txvoodoo, 2005-11-19 06:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]imbrium, 2005-11-20 07:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaosinaskirt, 2005-11-20 07:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]imbrium, 2005-11-20 08:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaosinaskirt, 2005-11-20 09:02 am UTC

[info]annabelle_lee
2005-11-12 07:57 am UTC (link)
As wanky as this is, I'm just overjoyed that she's in Wheatfield of all places. I could actually drive to a place and pick up scents instead of having to juggle shipping and payment options and waiting weeks for what I want!

That is, if she actually keeps doing this and doesn't wank herself into a state of oblivion. Le sigh.

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[info]hangingfire
2005-11-12 07:01 pm UTC (link)
I just want to say I had a dream about this whole debacle last night. I dreamed that someone had posted in the comments that the drama was continuing in a community called "lj_communities", presumably over the bahleetion of the community.

I think I need a break from the internets. A big break.

Woe is me.

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[info]wanktastic
2005-11-12 10:01 pm UTC (link)
There's a bit more wank related to this here. Nothing on the new community yet except from the sockpuppet mod but it's worth keeping an eye on for future wank.

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[info]greenling
2005-11-12 10:17 pm UTC (link)
What exactly is a note, anyway? It sounds like it might be a measurement or a "generic thingy of a specific kind of scent" or possibly a category.

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2005-11-13 12:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-11-13 07:59 pm UTC

[info]psychofangirl
2005-11-13 08:31 am UTC (link)
I actually thought about getting some oils from AC too, but if they're similar to Sweetcakes, then I won't bother.

But, at least I found some decent oils for cheeeep prices.

Course, I'd still be getting oils from BPAL.

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the owner speaks...again
(Anonymous)
2005-11-13 06:47 pm UTC (link)
currently on atropascottage.com

Hello and welcome! We are currently re-thinking how we want to run this shop, and we appreciate your patience. The website will be going back up in the next week or two, scent descriptions will be back, and hopefully we will be able to continue to serve customers again soon. We are also looking into the best way to handle the ongoing defamation coming from the official forum board of a particular perfume company. However, libel is a legal matter and won't be discussed here.

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[info]hangingfire
2005-11-13 06:48 pm UTC (link)
The screw takes another turn. From the AC web site:
Hello and welcome! We are currently re-thinking how we want to run this shop, and we appreciate your patience. The website will be going back up in the next week or two, scent descriptions will be back, and hopefully we will be able to continue to serve customers again soon. We are also looking into the best way to handle the ongoing defamation coming from the official forum board of a particular perfume company. However, libel is a legal matter and won't be discussed here.

OH NOES HERE COME THE INTARWEB LAWYERS.

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(no subject) - [info]wrenlet, 2005-11-13 07:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]imbrium, 2005-11-13 09:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrenlet, 2005-11-13 09:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-13 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hangingfire, 2005-11-13 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sewingmyfish, 2005-11-14 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-14 12:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hangingfire, 2005-11-14 02:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2005-11-14 02:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hangingfire, 2005-11-14 02:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaosinaskirt, 2005-11-19 06:14 am UTC
Topic tangent - [info]hangingfire, 2005-11-14 02:07 am UTC
Re: Topic tangent - [info]sewingmyfish, 2005-11-14 02:10 am UTC
Re: Topic tangent - [info]hangingfire, 2005-11-14 02:21 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2005-11-14 01:38 am UTC (link)
DRAMA. I'm not really involved in BPAL mostly b/c I am broke, but I am amused nonetheless.

Also I have to say, lulinda, I love your icons.

(foresthouse on LJ - man I really need to get a journalfen account!)

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