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St. Ignatius of Antioch ([info]ignatius) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-11-15 15:09:00


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Because the first step in writing hot girl-on-girl action...
...is admitting that we have misogyny conditioned into us by the repressive patriarchal society we inhabit.



There’s been a lot of meta about misogyny in fandom lately, but nothing brings it from 0-to-wank faster than bringing up slash.

Twinkledru starts us off by asking : Why is femslash the redheaded stepchild of fandom? She makes another post, going into more detail, and the comments in both are rife with wank piling up as people attempt to offer explainations.

Here, twinkledru states it outright (yes, fandom is misogynist) and also puts words in the mouths of people arguing from the “media gives us faulty female characters” POV.

Marenfic knows why people don’t understand the point. Because if there’s one thing their argument needs, it’s yet another way to pseudo-intellectually insult fandom.

I have a hunch twinkledru’s being sarcastic here. Phantomas decides to respond.

Final thoughts, with a lot of TO MEs. Or that’s just the way it read, to me.

Kita weighs in. Also, there may- just may- be some grudgewank between the two sides.

JaneDavitt weighs in.

Here, I learn that I missed this on [info]wank_report, which I really should check more regularly. Also, Jennyo tries too hard.

Edit: Apparently the [info]wank_report report featured this link, in which Phantomas doesn’t know who Jennyo is and Jennyo informs her.



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[info]kadath
2005-11-15 10:26 pm UTC (link)
I just pondered that to write femslash in the main continuity of my major fandom, you're practically forced to resort to cross-generational zombie incest.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-15 10:30 pm UTC (link)
Was wondering if we'd see that here.

queenzulu on lj

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[info]mistressrenet
2005-11-15 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Any time I think I'm missing out not being in academia? I read threads like this. Yeah, pass me another Budweiser, kthks.

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[info]chopperbetty
2005-11-15 10:33 pm UTC (link)
I thought het was the red-headed stepchild of fandom.

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[info]puipui
2005-11-15 10:38 pm UTC (link)
Can't we just be writing guy-on-guy because we like cock?

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[info]ingrid
2005-11-15 10:42 pm UTC (link)
I think you missed these links from Wank Report.

Prime wank there ...

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coreopsis
2005-11-15 10:43 pm UTC (link)
Also, Jennyo tries too hard.
Wow. That's sure never happened before.

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[info]mpoetess
2005-11-15 11:01 pm UTC (link)
*updates Buffy Wankidex*

*sniffles happily* As long as there is wank, my fandom is not dead!

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[info]sunhawk
2005-11-15 11:10 pm UTC (link)
Me and Jen summed it up pretty well tonight, methinks. To wit: when someone says that a fandom has no interesting female characters, it tells you more about that person than it does about the fandom.

What did it tell you, my birthday? Social Security Number?? Where my keys went???

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[info]castellated
2005-11-15 11:27 pm UTC (link)
Christ. Why can't people just read/write their pr0n of choice and shut up about it? "Oh, I'm being "ghettoized" and oppressed because everyone doesn't read/write what I prefer! And everyone who doesn't read/write what I prefer is a brainwashed zombie of the patriarchy (as opposed to just liking something other than what you like)."

Welcome to real life, where sometimes people don't think you're right simply because *ding* you're not.

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I'm not from the Buffy fandom, but...
[info]culsu
2005-11-15 11:34 pm UTC (link)
this whole thing just smells like ancient grudgewank (on several sides) dug up and dragged out of its casket. Rather fitting for a fandom about the undead.

While I actually think the topic of discussion is interesting and perfectly legitimate to toss around as meta, I'll just watch this one from afar, sitting in lots of really bright sunlight while I munch on garlic and clasp a crucifix in one hand and a stake in the other.

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Re: I'm not from the Buffy fandom, but... - [info]felinephoenix, 2005-11-15 11:55 pm UTC
Re: I'm not from the Buffy fandom, but... - [info]rachelmap, 2005-11-16 01:01 am UTC
Aha. - [info]culsu, 2005-11-16 01:36 am UTC
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Hey! - [info]culsu, 2005-11-16 07:22 am UTC
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[info]morganya
2005-11-15 11:42 pm UTC (link)
Let me get this straight, so to speak. The main symptom of f/f slash oppression is that f/f slash doesn't get as much feedback/recced as much as m/m, according to the writer's standards? And that somehow signifies rampant misogyny and anti-intellectualism, rather than the writer just having a hissy because they didn't get praised to the skies?

Susan B. Anthony is crying in her grave.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-15 11:44 pm UTC (link)
Wow. I'm actually agreeing with Kita for once. Who knew it could happen.

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[info]llama_treats
2005-11-15 11:48 pm UTC (link)
ZOMG DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM? I'VE WRITTEN PORN AND POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET! MORE THAN ONCE! I AM E-FAMOUS! [/jennyo]

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[info]kylenne
2005-11-15 11:52 pm UTC (link)
Hold up, I thought het was the redheaded stepchild of fandom? It's so confusing trying to keep track of who's on the cross this week.

This amuses me greatly, because it brings me back to the Xena fandom, which was full of wankademics who thought they were being rly smrt when they broke out ten dollar words and crap they learned the day before in their Women's Studies class to bash Gabrielle/Joxer and Xena/anyone male. When in reality they were really just fangirls pissed that anyone would dare violate the sacred OTP of Xena/Gabrielle. Lord, I had so many "get out of my ship, you're making it look stupid" moments in that fandom.

It's so cute when people use big words to justify how their panties get moist.

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[info]felinephoenix
2005-11-15 11:56 pm UTC (link)
I want a "get off my side, you're making my side look stupid" icon. Not having one, I'll have to settle for ChopStick!Xander.

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[info]dwib
2005-11-15 11:57 pm UTC (link)
Oh my god, Jennyo's comment in that last link is absolutely golden. Hee!

You know? I don't think I have a name recognition problem. Being Jennifer-Oksana and all? I do tend to get recced on a regular basis.

And her use of question marks there? Makes me want to stab things.

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[info]felinephoenix
2005-11-16 12:03 am UTC (link)
Wait a second. She's Jennifer-Oksana? The chick who wrote all those neat essays on the Gunn shrine of the BtVS Writer's Guild? The girl who made me want to write Gunn fics? (And messed-up Gunn/Fred?) Aw, now I'm all sad.

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[info]darkerthanpale
2005-11-16 12:03 am UTC (link)
Me and Jen summed it up pretty well tonight, methinks. To wit: when someone says that a fandom has no interesting female characters, it tells you more about that person than it does about the fandom.

... they've clearly never seen Prince of Tennis.

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[info]community_care
2005-11-16 12:04 am UTC (link)
I've been looking for this on F_W for two days now...

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-16 12:10 am UTC (link)
They need to get off my side.

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[info]drworm
2005-11-16 12:21 am UTC (link)
The stuff of golden wank, baby.

And I've just realized how many of my fandoms have the women primarily existing so that they can be saved by the boys. Ohhhhhh... well. Hell, when the women are strong, interesting, intelligent, and pretty, they get labeled as Mary Sues. Step OFF the Preston and Child books, you naysayers!

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2005-11-16 12:21 am UTC (link)
Dear Jennyo:

Shut up.

No really, shut up--no--no.

Shut up--no, NOW.

Now?

Yes.

Thank you

Kisses,

E,

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stabbitystab
[info]narcissam
2005-11-16 12:29 am UTC (link)
I keep expecting Jenny O to declare

Being as I am your personal lord and saviour, I don't think people neglecting to fall down on their knees and worship me is a problem.

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[info]isobelsomething
2005-11-16 12:42 am UTC (link)
It seems to be 'why aren't more people writing femmeslash?' week in fandom.

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