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wanktastic ([info]wanktastic) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2005-12-08 01:15:00


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Harry Potter = Tool of the Patriarchy
I snagged this from a mouse at [info]wank_report. Report copied verbatim, except for links added.

Kethylia doesn't like Harry Potter.

"No. Shit. It's like Star Wars (another franchise I enjoy only in my most self-hating moments) and ten million other male wish-fulfillment fantasies done over and over again throughout history. What makes Harry Potter especially repulsive is that it was created by a woman, which means, in writing these books, that she is complicit in her own oppression."


Vampirycyoda, a fan of the HP books, says that s/he likes them: "I know, but by the same toekn I know what I like and I like Harry Potter, and Star Wars. I honestly don't think I'd care even if I belived they were harmful. When it comes to etertainment, if I like it, that's all I need to know,"

Kethylia: "So says the guy who looks at the pictures of naked little girls. ^_~ "Harm" is a fascinating issue as well and not always as clear-cut as the layperson thinks it is."

So HP fans are like pedophiles, in a way.

There's also some fascinatingly stupid stuff by someone who thinks that the X chromosome makes you able to understand women.



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[info]memii
2005-12-08 08:25 am UTC (link)
Kethylia: "So says the guy who looks at the pictures of naked little girls.

Uhhh, what? Either we're missing something here or Kethylia needs the definition of ad hominem branded on her face.

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[info]lulinda
2005-12-08 08:28 am UTC (link)
Zzzzzz. Second verse same as the first. What's next on Ye Olde Complaint Calendar? RPS? Slash? Spoilers for LOTR?

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[info]platedlizard
2005-12-08 08:47 am UTC (link)
i also think women can't write men. not because of any kind of sexist attitude I have but because i think like a cold machine. most writing theory i've learned is that writers base alot of things from personal experience, and no woman can experience the Y chromosome, but men can write women because they in turn retain one X chromosome. Mathically speaking, All men retain a feminine gene, all women retain no male genes(unless in some cases the SRY agent is found in an defective XX chromosome, leads to man-women like Jamie lee curtis), with alittle logic you can see that not every man knows what its like to be a girl, but every man has the ability within their limits to retain a feminite quality, while every woman has a near zero chance to know what its like to be a guy.

Wow. So men can write female characters because men have the X chromosome (which even I know ain't the same thing as a gene), but women can't write male characters well because they lack the Y chromosome. Or something.


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[info]slackeremeritus
2005-12-08 08:54 am UTC (link)
So... HP is a misogynistic romp through the Scottish countryside because Star Wars is a male's wish-fulfillment fantasy?

.....Okay!

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[info]squeakytoy
2005-12-08 08:56 am UTC (link)
It's like Star Wars (another franchise I enjoy only in my most self-hating moments) and ten million other male wish-fulfillment fantasies

Uh, maybe it's, you know, part of my being the wrong gender to truly understand male wish-fulfillment fantasies, but...I thought there was usually more girls, boobies and sex.

And if we're going to go by the wish-fulfillment fantasy of being different, courageous, and saving the day...uh...*raises hand* I think I may be the wrong gender. Or oppressed. Probably oppressed. She seems to be big on oppression:

As someone who labors under the multiple oppressions, I have plenty of sympathy for many different groups.

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[info]sisterelwood
2005-12-08 09:04 am UTC (link)
Rock on, Kethylia! Way to make the rest of the female gender look like idiots. No cookies for you.

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[info]gun
2005-12-08 09:07 am UTC (link)
People like her are the reason I have to now post warnings before all my LJ entries.

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(Anonymous)
2005-12-08 09:07 am UTC (link)
In my view, as soon as she trotted out the word "layperson", she blew her own argument.

So, what church is it that you're the clergy of - Our Lady of Perpetual Snottery?

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[info]cleolinda
2005-12-08 09:09 am UTC (link)
As far as I'm concerned, anything using the phrase "complicit in your own oppression" = instant overpretentious comedy gold.

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[info]sisterelwood
2005-12-08 09:13 am UTC (link)
I should also say this because it needs to be said-

"Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!"

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[info]memii
2005-12-08 09:13 am UTC (link)
...But what are her thoughts on yaoi?

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(Anonymous)
2005-12-08 09:17 am UTC (link)
Actually, there has been quite the wank and discussion about women since HBP.

....

Makes me a bad woman, for liking them I suppose :)

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(Anonymous)
2005-12-08 09:22 am UTC (link)
Women digging for any reason to feel offended by popular culture make me giggle. It seems that everything popular has anti-feministic overtones these days.

- AZ

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I don't believe she's read Harry Potter nor seen Star Wars
[info]misachan
2005-12-08 09:26 am UTC (link)
Anyone who claims that Hermione is submissive in any way, shape, or form, let alone that she would make a "submissive little wife someday" automatically loses the argument and at life.

People, just because the main character has a Y chromosome does not mean the story is OMGZ OPPRESIVE!!! Stop making our gender look stupid with your hysterical flailing, please.

And Captain Pseudoscience might be enlightened to know that since all fetuses start out female, in reality only women can write men, since all men started out as women. The truth is revealed!

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[info]khym_chanur
2005-12-08 09:28 am UTC (link)
"the ideological champions of patriarchal society. They celebrate the magical powers of a boy, with a girl - Hermione - cheerleading him. You can predict the outcome."

Wait, so if a story has a male lead, then it's impossible for him to have a female sidekick with out being sexist? If the lead is male, all his sidekicks must be male as well? But wouldn't that exclude women, thus also being sexist? Must all leads be female?

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flightstothesea
2005-12-08 09:30 am UTC (link)
*insert obligatory "get out of feminism, you're making it look stupid" comment*

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[info]saralina25
2005-12-08 09:30 am UTC (link)
Am I 'complicit in my own oppression' because I read books for the plot, and don't give a flying fuck what gender anyone is?

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[info]ignatius
2005-12-08 09:33 am UTC (link)
"They celebrate the magical powers of a boy, with a girl - Hermione - cheerleading him. You can predict the outcome."

Wait, what outcome is he referring to? Is Zipes a Harmonian?

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[info]silvernutmeg
2005-12-08 09:34 am UTC (link)
Would that I were so oppressed as J.K. Rowling.

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kroki_refur
2005-12-08 09:49 am UTC (link)
She thinks Buffy is male wish-fulfilment, but likes Witchblade because it involves a power that only women can yield, and which men fail at controlling.

...has she seen Buffy?

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[info]imadra_blue
2005-12-08 09:51 am UTC (link)
I'm not so sure about that male wish-fulfillment bit in Star Wars. A series of movies with Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Billy Dee Williams, Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, Hayden Christensen, and Jimmy Smits? Are we sure that's male wish fulfillment? Maybe Lucas is as gay as his characters.

The moment you bust out with a statement saying JKR is "complicit in her own oppression" by writing a fantasy story about a boy with magical powers, you lose. And you also make me laugh. A lot.

Can someone explain to me how the logic of liking Harry Potter or Star Wars makes you a pedophile? Oh, never mind. Stupid question. There's no logic involved at all, naturally.

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[info]luthe
2005-12-08 09:52 am UTC (link)
*sends the OP a copy of Dar Williams's "When I Was a Boy"*

I suppose this person also thinks slash is the ZOMG OPPRESHUN of women, since it involves two guys getting it on? And we're all participating the oppression, since we write it?

Though, by the poster's dubious logic, slash would count as a female wish-fulfillment fantasy. So does that make slashers better than non-slashers? *ponders*

On another note, what is the OP's definition of a 'female wish-fulfillment fantasy'? Can't be Labriynth, since the end is cheerfully domestic. Can't be Mercedes Lackey's Arrows series, since they are all about teh angst (and getting the guy). Suggestions?

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[info]the_wanlorn
2005-12-08 09:54 am UTC (link)
This has nothing to do with the wank. But it is Harry Potter related!

Am I the last person in the world to find out that the actress who plays Moaning Myrtle will be 40 come Christmas Eve?

Anyone out of their 20s who can pass for a teenager is unbelievably awesome!

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